HOME STRETCH!!! possible help needed...

[12013]

so..quick update.

I just got the email from the LAST guy we needed art from and hes going to be sending it to me probably tonight. once we have that on hand, everything is done except for the lettering on my pages, which ED is working on.

but really, this is like practically finished. I think we are hitting 70 plus PAGES in total. guys..this is an awesome achievement and something I think we will all be proud of being part of.

now..for the part that we need help. I haven't been able to get a hold of the guy that's doing the cover. I'm NOT writing him off yet. he IS a working pro and stuff comes up and we all understand that. but I haven't heard from him in a bit and so I want to start coming up with options if we cant get the drawn cover by the artist.

so..my question would be..what could we do? is there anyone out there that's good with photoshop and graphic design? maybe something with "digitalwebbing.com presents" and the title "Hellboy MONSTER MASH" in big bold text?
maybe someone could put that together and take cut scenes of some of the various pages and put them around the text in places?

I don't know..im not good at figuring out that stuff. I wouldn't mind the cover just being big bold words saying HELLBOY MONSTER MASH or something like that. but it would be nice to have it in color.

I am VERY open to any suggestions and help about this part. I will keep trying to contact the artist and hopefully that's still an option for us. but in the case where we need to come up with a different option..tell me what you think would work.

ROB

[SSTiger]

70 Pages? :eek::eek: Damn...

BTW It'd be possible to put the title text in while pdfing the thing using InDesign or something similar, but cutting the images together, that's completely beyond me.

I don't know if simply putting the words and nothing else on the cover is a good idea though; we need something that grabs attention right away. A proper cover would go a long way towards that.

[12013]

70 Pages? :eek::eek: Damn...

BTW It'd be possible to put the title text in while pdfing the thing using InDesign or something similar, but cutting the images together, that's completely beyond me.

I don't know if simply putting the words and nothing else on the cover is a good idea though; we need something that grabs attention right away. A proper cover would go a long way towards that.

I agree a proper cover is best.. that's why I liked the idea of a pro artist doing it for us. if it turns out the artist isn't available..i don't know what else would be best. I don't know...we will figure out something.

[12013]

Just a quick idea for cover.

https://i.imgur.com/aB6ddYT.jpg

I kinda like that. the simplicity of just having HB face there. I do think that if we are going to shout out the website here as where it originated from, we should have it spelled out specifically tho. like maybe across the top of the page... like

digitalwebbing.com
presents
HELLBOY
MONSTER MASH

Obviously the hellboy and story title would be bigger and the focus.

GAH.. anyone have any connections to any pro artists...? I KINDA wonder if I should approach Renae De Liz again. shes a supporter of the website. she might be up for it again. tho her and her husband might not have time to do non paying stuff..i think they are having a rough time at the moment. I don't know.

[12013]

do any of you follow artist Lewis Larosa...? I follow him on Instagram and he recently put up these sketches. holy crap do these just look SPOT on. he has taken the specific design look and anatomy that Mignola puts into the character with his stylized art, but also makes it looks a little more real-ish. it totally LOOKS like mignolas design. jeez. makes me feel like my horrible renderings of hellboy on my pages needs to be completely reworked.

anyway... I just thought these were incredible and wanted to share.

https://orig00.deviantart.net/4e0e/f/2018/084/5/4/art_by_lewis_larosa_by_robnor101-dc6wc84.png


https://orig00.deviantart.net/78d9/f/2018/084/2/0/art_by_lewis_larosa_by_robnor101-dc6wc3n.png

[12013]

OK, Here:
https://i.imgur.com/JZox6fj.jpg

yeah..i think that would look better. I mean..im open to all suggestions. I'm not a graphic designer.

[12013]

However, I think we must be clear this is a Fan's Homage to Hellboy. Just for the legalities of using a Copyrighted character with film Trademark as HELLBOY is.

oh that I agree with. but I mean..we aren't selling anything. id imagine we are okay. but like you are saying.having it say homage or Fan book or something. maybe having "digitalwebbing presents" isn't a good idea because isn't that the exact title of a book that's actually been put out? we wouldn't want anyone to think its another issue of that actual book. so using a specific title to say "FAN" book or whatever is probably the best idea.

[SSTiger]

We could rework the wording for that a bit, maybe turn it into:

Hellboy: Monster Mash

A fanfic anthology by digitalwebbing.com

OR

Hellboy: Monster Mash

A digitalwebbing.com fanfic anthology

Instead of "DW presents", put that black bar with our address at the bottom. I also think using the whole website address would be better, since not everyone would know what DW is and seeing the whole address will (hopefully) drive more traffic to the site, which is after all how this whole thing started out.

[Scribbly]

https://i.imgur.com/yxzDFwM.jpg

[Bishop]

https://i.imgur.com/yxzDFwM.jpg

Love it

[SSTiger]

^Might be too wordy. Overcrowd it and the ring of a good title goes away.

"Digital Webbing Fanfiction: Anthology Homage: Hellboy: Featuring: Monster Mash?"

Less is more for something like this, so a more straightforward title would be better IMHO.

Also, Introducing and Featuring are used before a character's name, not a book title. "Monster Mash: Featuring Hellboy" is accurate, "Hellboy featuring Monster Mash" isn't. It would have to be "Hellboy featuring IN Monster Mash" which doesn't have the same ring to it.

I still say keep it simple. Either -

Hellboy: Monster Mash

A digitalwebbing.com Fanfiction Anthology

OR, like Rob suggested -

digitalwebbing.com Presents

HELLBOY: MONSTER MASH

A Fanfiction Anthology

[Bishop]

So, to summarize, remove “Featuring”, and “anthology homage”?

[Duane Korslund]

So, to summarize, remove “Featuring”, and “anthology homage”?

I also feel like the "featuring" has got to go...The homage thing..I think it should go, but if it needs to stay for any kind of legal reason, I could see that.

[RobertS]

How about something like this - i incorporated the design from a Hellboy book from DarkHorse.

http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah152/roberts61/COVER_zpspwxtmcqz.jpg (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/roberts61/media/COVER_zpspwxtmcqz.jpg.html)

[SSTiger]

^ Putting Mignola's name there could be troublesome, even in a fan work. Can't say for sure, but still.

Other than that, I think that one works.

EDIT: Tiny nitpicky suggestion - Could maybe add an "A" before "Digital Webbing Fanfiction", changing it to "A Digital Webbing Fanfiction", since this is a one-shot.

But I do agree with the overall design. Keeps the title simple, throws our name and logo on there, makes it clear the contents are a fan creation.

[RobertS]

yeah, i just grabbed a logo off the internet for placement. Mike's name doesn't have to stay. This is basically a mock up and once everyone decides on a cover design (if they choose this one), i can go in and replace the images and logo in photoshop with high res versions and cover image if need be.

[Bishop]

I wouldn’t put “A” on there. As it is it lines up with other DW works. Also, who’s to say we won’t do another of these sometime soon.

[12013]

I think we should get ED involved in this...as this is HIS website and if we are gonna be slapping his sites name around and we are all worried about potential legal troubles...we needs his input. he IS a pro after all and I'm sure he has advice in regards to this. he may NOT want us slapping his logo on this thing as its not an OFFICIAL book like some of the past stuff hes published thru here.
even using the official hellboy logo might be a bad idea. I don't know....


also..as far as the cover, I just got emailed by the cover artist..hes still 2 weeks out before he will be able to show us anything. so it could be even longer. I would still like his contribution for sure..but I don't want to put this on hold for 2 weeks or possibly more now that its all done and done(well..99% there.) which is why I was putting out feelers for what to do.
so..we still have some time..im waiting for ed to letter MY pages anyway. and then we needs to get this put together in PDF format..which SSTIGER offered to help with.
we need to come up with some kind if inside front cover content. I'm thinking a list of all contributors and maybe a small paragraph explaining what this is.. I could write that maybe?
and I also have an idea for a cover drawing..i want to start banging that out soon... it may work. it may not. and by the time its all put together anyway..maybe the original cover artist will have had enough time to come thru.
I just want to get this out there for all to see soon. being so close..its hard to now be impatient to share it.

so..i think getting EDs input on the cover and what we can or should NOT do, so as to not put him in a difficult situation is best. ill message him right now and see what I can find out.

rob

[Scribbly]

So....what IF this is the first of many more fanfiction anthologies? What if the next featured character is Batman or Spiderman? What text format the cover must have in order to avoid a legal lawsuit? Just asking.

[Bishop]

I agree we need Ed’s input

[12013]

I agree we need Ed’s input

he responded to my message and said hed come take a look and chime in when he could.

[Bishop]

So....what IF this is the first of many more fanfiction anthologies? What if the next featured character is Batman or Spiderman? What text format the cover must have in order to avoid a legal lawsuit? Just asking.

I like keeping it out of the mainstream, myself. I’d rather do something with the indie characters (but that’s just me).

It might be fun to do a Locke and Key fan fiction where each story has a unique key... that would be interesting.

[paul brian deberry]

How about MONSTER MASH Featuring HELLBOY?

[12013]

How about MONSTER MASH Featuring HELLBOY?

THATS an idea...

[12013]

I like keeping it out of the mainstream, myself. I’d rather do something with the indie characters (but that’s just me).

It might be fun to do a Locke and Key fan fiction where each story has a unique key... that would be interesting.

that was kinda my thought as well...not mainstream characters. but there are so few INDIE characters that I know and LIKE. but doing a batman story doesn't REALLY interest me..(for example). BUT..the proper set up could make it interesting.

me personally...I like the idea of Matt Wagners GRENDEL or personally Erik Larsens Savage Dragon is VERY interesting to me. especially cause he crosses his guy over with ALL kinds of different characters. I bet if we put together a book like this with Dragon in it..he would get a genuine kick out of it. and hes also pretty easy to get a hold of on social media. anyway..thats just my thoughts.

I also have no idea what "a locke and key" thing is...someone has to explain that one to me.

either way...that's a ways off. getting ahead of ourselves. maybe look at doing another one of these at the end of summer? unless everyone else is on board so quickly.

rob

[jeffchris50]

How about a nice MEGATON MAN anthology!! That guy always cracked me up and he's the perfect vehicle for poking fun at things. I'm sure more than a few of us are probably friends of Don Simpson's on Facebook....

[Bishop]

Grendel is a great idea. I love Dragon too.

If you haven’t read Locke and Key you owe it to yourself to do so. It’s fantastic.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locke_%26_Key

[SSTiger]

I wouldn’t put “A” on there. As it is it lines up with other DW works. Also, who’s to say we won’t do another of these sometime soon.

No, I meant since it's a standalone story (Issue #1 of 1, not #1 of 5 or anything like that) but, y'know, eh, whatever. Like I said, it's a tiny nitpick.

How about MONSTER MASH Featuring HELLBOY?

I'm beginning to feel like we should just pick a title by vote, because otherwise we'll be here all week mulling this over. :laugh:

[Scribbly]

7I wouldn’t put “A” on there. As it is it lines up with other DW works. Also, who’s to say we won’t do another of these sometime soon.
I wouldn't mind to do a Judge Dredd, a Conan the Barbarian, a Jonah Hex, a Wolverine, or a Batman. I like the anti hero not the hero, neither superheroes.

[RobertS]

I second any of these choices. I grew up on Conan, John Buscema is one of my all time favourite artists. There was an issue of Savage Sword that he both penciled and inked that was breath taking. I would draw a Conan comic in a heart beat.

[Duane Korslund]

I'll do anything that gains me more experience and collaboration with superior artists such as yourselves. DW My Little Pony meets Leatherface?? DW: Toxic Avenger meets Archie? I'm on it! lol

[jeffchris50]

I'll do anything that gains me more experience and collaboration with superior artists such as yourselves. DW My Little Pony meets Leatherface?? DW: Toxic Avenger meets Archie? I'm on it! lol

I’ve got it; the ultimate throw down: Alien vs. Predator against the most fearsome foe of all—-Strawberry Shortcake!:p:har:

[eDuke]

My thoughts... I think this needs to look much different than anything associated with the print publications. We want to make it clear this isn't something that is actually printed and sold, but instead a collaboration with forum members on a project.

So with that said, if we put Digital Webbing on it, it needs to include the word "forum" with it. Also, let's keep the spider logo off of it as well. Less confusion, the better. The reading public out there does get confused on unexpected things; for example, there were countless times readers thought the name of the publishing company was "Digital Webbing Presents" instead of "Press" because I put the title up on the comic's top bar.

Hellboy AFTER Monster Mash would be best so it doesn't cause confusion on whether it's a Hellboy comic but instead a forum collaboration featuring Hellboy, if that makes sense.

[jeffchris50]

I think I might take a shot at putting something together if no one minds? I have a few ideas after reading Ed's input...

[12013]

I think I might take a shot at putting something together if no one minds? I have a few ideas after reading Ed's input...

anyone can do anything...multiple options are great. and we can all decide which way will be best.

just remember everyone...we are waiting on cover ART as well.

[Scribbly]

MONSTER MASH
A FAN FICTION ANTHOLOGY
Featuring: HELLBOY

By members of the Digital Webbing Forums.

[RobertS]

Here is a cover idea based on Scribbly's wording - for condideration.
http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah152/roberts61/COVER3_zpsecthgtcl.jpg (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/roberts61/media/COVER3_zpsecthgtcl.jpg.html)

[12013]

Here is a cover idea based on Scribbly's wording - for condideration.
http://i1379.photobucket.com/albums/ah152/roberts61/COVER3_zpsecthgtcl.jpg (http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/roberts61/media/COVER3_zpsecthgtcl.jpg.html)

see that looks kinda cool

[Bishop]

I’m wondering if we shouldn’t use the official HB logo. I’d bet Mignola has that trademarked.

[sevans]

Definitely trademarked. And it makes it look too legitimate. Since it isn't..... would be safer to remove.

Try that with a Disney logo.....cease and desist letter

[12013]

Definitely trademarked. And it makes it look too legitimate. Since it isn't..... would be safer to remove.

Try that with a Disney logo.....cease and desist letter

yeah...so...anyone want to/able to design a NEW hellboy logo of some type?

[SSTiger]

I think if we just get rid of the "TM" next to Hellboy logo we should be fine; that'd make it clear it isn't our trademark and the "Fanfiction Anthology" part clarifies that it is an unofficial creation.

Throw that edit in and IMO Robert's new version works.

[Bishop]

I think if we just get rid of the "TM" next to Hellboy logo we should be fine; that'd make it clear it isn't our trademark and the "Fanfiction Anthology" part clarifies that it is an unofficial creation.

Throw that edit in and IMO Robert's new version works.

Ummmm, no. That isn’t how trademark works. Removing the “tm” doesn’t remove the trademark on the logo. We should just have Hellboy in the same font as the “Fanfiction anthology” text.

[jeffchris50]

Looking at it from a strictly copyright/trademark point of view, I think we're going to be safer keeping the title Hellboy in a pretty simple, straightforward font, maybe something heavy like Impact, but pretty plain, that way there can be no misinterpretation that you're trying to highjack the character or the logo. Copyright laws are tough and flirting them, especially when you're dealing with "publishing" something on the Internet, is a tricky business. I think we'd be safe with the black, yellow and red color scheme, but font-wise, I'd play it straight. Just my two cents worth...

[Scribbly]

yeah...so...anyone want to/able to design a NEW hellboy logo of some type?
OK Make your font pick,

https://i.imgur.com/tqgiPxF.jpg

[SSTiger]

Ummmm, no. That isn’t how trademark works. Removing the “tm” doesn’t remove the trademark on the logo. We should just have Hellboy in the same font as the “Fanfiction anthology” text.

I agree if it were something that was for sale; but for a fan work that'd be enough.

Regardless; new font, sure, why not.

I actually have a decent collection of fonts since I do a little lettering too; here's a couple of "Demonic" style stuff (both are free-to-use):

(Bear in mind that I cannot do graphic design; if we go with one of these I can send the font to whoever's doing the cover and you'll need to do the rest.)

http://image.ibb.co/iJQBAS/COVER3_zpsecthgtcl_Bo_Rage.jpghttp://image.ibb.co/dGx2H7/COVER3_zpsecthgtcl_Dem_Darlings.jpg

^ I especially like the first one.

[RobertS]

I’m a graphic artist by trade, so I am willing to help. That being said, I am now on holidays for the next 10 days. As far as the hellboy logo, if this is a fan fiction and not for sale, print or distribution, is it any different from using the character, who is also trademarked. I mean tones of people slap a Batman, Spider-Man,etc logo on their fan work and Hellboy isn’t Disney and is probably the most legally anal company out there.

Just my thought...but I don’t really know trademark laws.

[Scribbly]

I don't really have any concern about the typos we can use to substitute the original logo but about the use of the character's name itself. An Arial bold would make it.
I think that what is important is to keep well established that this is a fan fiction HOMAGE to Hellboy, made by members of the DW forums.
I will rather put the word Homage to Hellboy instead of Featuring Hellboy in the title.
Featuring sounds like we already have the author's or publisher's OK to do this. Which is not.
An homage is more humble and it express the meaning of this whole group project. IMHO.

I am graphic designer, illustrator and I do licensing material as well.
Comics not that much. Mostly for hobby nowadays.
A trademark means somebody use others IP without permission, ends on court.
But as a group's homage, without commercial purpose, only for the exposure, we have a great chance of make it well. I wouldn't hesitate. WE are already there.

[SSTiger]

The word "Featuring" does not carry any implication of official legal right or permission; it only means that a certain character is primarily featured in the story inside.

Also, using the word "homage" will not provide any legal protection, because, as RobertS pointed out, we ARE using Mignola's IP without permission. Same goes for every other character from every other franchise that we are using in the book. Legally speaking, these are all Trademark/Intellectual Property violations that can be taken to court.

If you absolutely have to call it an homage to Hellboy, you'd also have to call it an homage to the Fantastic Four, Devil May Cry, Hulk, etc. etc. and list every single franchise we've used on the cover.

"Fan fiction featuring Hellboy" is a more accurate description, since that puts its non-commercial nature front and center (check out any number of fanfic sites and "fan fiction" is the official phrase used in titles for stuff like this, not "homage").

Any further disclaimer we add should be detailed inside, not on the cover. I remember author Steven Brust (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Brust) once wrote and distributed a Firefly fanfic called My Own Kind Of Freedom (http://dreamcafe.com/my-own-kind-of-freedom/), with an ownership disclaimer & a Creative Commons License on the inside. That's a known and established author, writing unauthorized fanfic of another known and established author's work, without any legal ramifications. Something like that should work fine for us, too. All this obsessing over the legalese doesn't get us anywhere because there's really no fancy lingo that can shield us 100%, so I'd rather not restart the wording discussion.

The big question here was whether and how to add DW's name to the title, and EDuke has made his views clear on that. So it'd be best to pick the logo/font and move forward.

[12013]

just an update guys... I know its been quiet and people are probably wondering when the hell we will see this thing. I'm still working on getting my pages lettered. but besides the cover, that's it. hopefully this will be all finished soon.

as for the cover, again I'm not sure if our cover guy will have a chance to do something for us, so...in the face of possible extreme personal embarrassment, I drew something that is in the process of being colored that MAYBE could be used as a cover...in case there is nothing else. when its done, I will see if you graphic designers will put the titles/logos that we came up with on it and we can see if its something worthwhile.
gotta admit, makes me nervous to say "hey, heres MY art to be the cover for the whole thing " but..there will be an option. unless its deemed to sucky, and then we can come up with something else if needed.

anyway..just a quick update.

[12013]

hey....!!! that looks awesome SCRIBBLY. maybe that's a way to go if nothing else comes up.


this is the black and white to the art I was doing for a possible cover option. curious to know if people think this wouldn't work at all.... id LOVE for anyone to put some lettering on it to see what it looks like..kinda like scribblys up there..
I also have some coloring options coming for my art here.

https://pre00.deviantart.net/1cb9/th/pre/i/2018/104/2/6/hellboy_face_by_robnor101-dc8uo7l.png



OH...and also..the awesome RobertS lettered my pages and they are DONE. the book is ready to be seen, minus cover designs. SSTIGER. you said you could do PDF formatting for us? is that still a possibility?


ALMOST DONE GUYS!!

edit...WHY CANT I GET MY IMAGE TO SHOW?!?! gah!!!

double edit.. figured it out. DUH. thx Bishop

[Bishop]

Fixed

hey....!!! that looks awesome SCRIBBLY. maybe that's a way to go if nothing else comes up.


this is the black and white to the art I was doing for a possible cover option. curious to know if people think this wouldn't work at all.... id LOVE for anyone to put some lettering on it to see what it looks like..kinda like scribblys up there..
I also have some coloring options coming for my art here.

https://pre00.deviantart.net/1cb9/th/pre/i/2018/104/2/6/hellboy_face_by_robnor101-dc8uo7l.png


OH...and also..the awesome RobertS lettered my pages and they are DONE. the book is ready to be seen, minus cover designs. SSTIGER. you said you could do PDF formatting for us? is that still a possibility?


ALMOST DONE GUYS!!

edit...WHY CANT I GET MY IMAGE TO SHOW?!?! gah!!!

[SSTiger]

Yeah, I'm still up for it - I got your PM and I've sent you a reply; we can start hashing out the details.

That image looks cool, Rob! I love the shadow of the horn falling over his eye.

Would it be possible to do a bunch of silhouettes of the characters that Hellboy is meeting, and put them underneath/around the face, so as to emphasize the team-up nature of the book?

(I don't know how much extra work that would take though; so just floating an idea.)

[Bishop]

Seriously can't wait to see this thing posted!

[12013]

Yeah, I'm still up for it - I got your PM and I've sent you a reply; we can start hashing out the details.

That image looks cool, Rob! I love the shadow of the horn falling over his eye.

Would it be possible to do a bunch of silhouettes of the characters that Hellboy is meeting, and put them underneath/around the face, so as to emphasize the team-up nature of the book?

(I don't know how much extra work that would take though; so just floating an idea.)

hey man just wrote you back. sent you the dropbox link so you can have access to the whole project so far. so feel free to get started. maybe we can use SCRIBBLYS cover type image up there for the inside cover, or BACK cover or...Something.. whatever. it just looks awesome.

as far as your suggestion for adding the other characters to the cover around the face..i cant do that and I don't know if someone would be willing to try. I am also worried that it may make it look to cluttered? never know unless we can see what someone can do.

also...considering the book is basically done... and I'm asking all of you guys.. should be share the dropbox link here for all of us to be able to read it. once we have a downloadable pdf link we can share that all over the universe when its done. but as far as us all reading it... should we make it available?

rob

[Bishop]

I think it would be more fun to post it all in a thread here do we can see comments and stuff. If everyone goes to Dropbox we won’t get the dialog going as much.

[12013]

I think it would be more fun to post it all in a thread here do we can see comments and stuff. If everyone goes to Dropbox we won’t get the dialog going as much.

Thats true...good point. I figured people would come back and talk.

I guess the pain in the ass would be finding some poor sap who wants to go to the whole effort of uploading and linking each and every image. Ugh.

[12013]

So, inside cover or back cover for my cover?
OK. Here you are.

https://i.imgur.com/D0xS6qx.jpg

Please, let me know if you need the full size image.

DUDE!!!! I LOVE this. Holy crap... seriously

[SSTiger]

I guess the pain in the ass would be finding some poor sap who wants to go to the whole effort of uploading and linking each and every image. Ugh.

I'll be the sap then. I'll be resizing some of the images anyway and imgbb will let you upload the whole thing together and list out the links. Shouldn't be too hard.

BTW I just read through the whole thing and it is REALLY cool! I think everybody managed to get HB's wisecracking personality down perfectly well. There's some really funny lines that made me laugh out loud.

Also, yeah, I think that portal-and-Hellboy image would work better as the cover. SCRIBBLY, can you upload the highres version (1080p jpeg, not bigger than that) and send me the link?

[Scribbly]

. SCRIBBLY, can you upload the highres version (1080p jpeg, not bigger than that) and send me the link?

Sure. Let me compose the image with the lettering design provided by RobertS and I send you the high res tonight.

[SSTiger]

Could you send me the non-lettered version as well? There could be a dedication/introduction page (or both) and a color-filtered version of the cover would work better as the background image for it rather than some generic black background.

[12013]

Before everyone get a little to far ahead of themselves...the cover was offered and assigned to Matt Triano. He has told me he will have time to draw something by the end of this month.
It he cant provide it by that time, then we obviously have our alternate. But just keep in mind that he could be getting us his work soon. Just fyi everyone..

[Scribbly]

Before everyone get a little to far ahead of themselves...the cover was offered and assigned to Matt Triano. He has told me he will have time to draw something by the end of this month.
It he cant provide it by that time, then we obviously have our alternate. But just keep in mind that he could be getting us his work soon. Just fyi everyone..
Thanks for clarify.
Lets wait for Triano's cover and we can go ahead from there.
As I see my collaboration was not needed and I am pulling off my voluntary spec for cover.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

[SSTiger]

Before everyone get a little to far ahead of themselves...the cover was offered and assigned to Matt Triano. He has told me he will have time to draw something by the end of this month.
It he cant provide it by that time, then we obviously have our alternate. But just keep in mind that he could be getting us his work soon. Just fyi everyone..

I remember; that's why I asked for the un-lettered version, since if Matt's cover came through we could use Scribbly's version as the background for one of the inside pages I mentioned. (In hindsight, really should've elaborated that; my bad).

So Scribbly, do try and reconsider the withdrawal.

[jeffchris50]

Since this IS a virtual/digital “book,” how about having alternate covers? I’m working on a design for an homage to old MARVEL comics from the 70s using Rob’s art as a basis. I think we’ve got a lot of great ideas going here that would all look good and be cool to see finished. Just a thought...

[12013]

Thanks for clarify.
Lets wait for Triano's cover and we can go ahead from there.
As I see my collaboration was not needed and I am pulling off my voluntary spec for cover.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

No no you dont have to apologize for anything nor was anything even remotely an inconvenience. You provided something that is awesome and may still be used for that purpose. And even if matt is able to come thru, lets still use it in the collection somewhere. Maybe, if nothing else, we can have a collection of pin ups...a hellboy gallery at the end of the book where these and any others can be posted to show them.
Your art HAS to go in this thing somewhere.

Abd if anyone else has a pinup you would like to have in gallery at the end...share that shit asap!!!!

Rob

[RobertS]

I'm working on one, but it is taking days to do. I will send/post it on Monday.

[SSTiger]

a hellboy gallery at the end of the book where these and any others can be posted to show them.
Rob

That's a great idea too - OGNs & TPBs usually put pinups at the end; let's do the same.

[Bishop]

Should we just send them to Rob and SSTiger can get them from Dropbox?

[12013]

Should we just send them to Rob and SSTiger can get them from Dropbox?

Whatever works. Can post links here...or send directly to SS. Or send to me and ill upload to dropbox. Its all good .

[Bishop]

I put it in the dropbox folder