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Old 07-26-2015, 11:34 PM   #1
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Life-Time: A time machine comic

Hiya, fellas! (say it like Butters)
So, I had been building a story since 2011 in my mind and ended somewhere in 2013. But still..ye know...things take a long time in comic biz especially when you don't anything about business.

Anyway, I finally did 5 pages for a submission pitch(which obviously didn't work out) but I think, I'll put an issue online later when I'm at 30 pages or so. Although I have the full story prepared but it takes time to actually create the pages with other regular jobs.

The story however can be 8 issues long. Strategically I plan to put at least 2 issues every year. I'll put on a link whenever I get done with the first issue.

The story- !!!??? Time machine dude! It's written in the title! the meanest, baddest time m/c story with a realist propaganda!

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Hi! Thanks for sharing!

Do your books read from left to right, or from right to left where you're from? The reason why I ask is because the action is reading from right-to-left, and in the US and Europe, we read left-to-right.

Just wondering.

If you say from right-to-left, then you're fine.

If you say from left-to-right, then all of your action is backwards.
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Hiya, fellas! (say it like Butters)
So, I had been building a story since 2011 in my mind and ended somewhere in 2013. But still..ye know...things take a long time in comic biz especially when you don't anything about business.

Anyway, I finally did 5 pages for a submission pitch(which obviously didn't work out) but I think, I'll put an issue online later when I'm at 30 pages or so. Although I have the full story prepared but it takes time to actually create the pages with other regular jobs.

The story however can be 8 issues long. Strategically I plan to put at least 2 issues every year. I'll put on a link whenever I get done with the first issue.

The story- !!!??? Time machine dude! It's written in the title! the meanest, baddest time m/c story with a realist propaganda!

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Are they doing parkour off the birds in that third page?!?
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:10 AM   #4
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Hey,thanx guys for the nice comments.
Steven, of course, for any normal comic it's become a rule for the comic action to be from left to right. But like I said, the story's got a lot of realist propaganda in it. In a real world, I don't think we always go left to right. And also, I haven't put any paneling that suggests linear motion of the character from one panel to other. Moreover, if the reader can understand everything that goes on....I got no worries for rules,right!

Blue, It's a time machine story. I haven't lettered all the time panels that show that they're all moving within a single moment. So, you can say it's parkour....with a time m/c.
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Hey,thanx guys for the nice comments.
Steven, of course, for any normal comic it's become a rule for the comic action to be from left to right. But like I said, the story's got a lot of realist propaganda in it. In a real world, I don't think we always go left to right. And also, I haven't put any paneling that suggests linear motion of the character from one panel to other. Moreover, if the reader can understand everything that goes on....I got no worries for rules,right!

Blue, It's a time machine story. I haven't lettered all the time panels that show that they're all moving within a single moment. So, you can say it's parkour....with a time m/c.
So, you did a 5 page submission, breaking the rules of storytelling, not really caring if the reader understood what was going on, and you're surprised that it wasn't picked up?

Your entire job as a storyteller is to make sure that the reader "gets it." Everything done on the page is supposed to be in service to the story, and thus, in service to the reader. Anything less than that is a waste of time and effort, and disrespectful to the audience you're trying to reach and build.

"Realist propaganda" doesn't have anything to do with being able to tell a solid story. Have you ever read The Filth by Grant Morrison? That's a story that I haven't decided whether or not is crap or genius, but it was breaking rules while still being able to tell a story.

You have to have a basic respect for your medium. You have to know which rules to break.

It sounds like you don't care, and if you don't care, then I'm done with you.
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I haven't put any paneling that suggests linear motion of the character from one panel to other. Moreover, if the reader can understand everything that goes on....I got no worries for rules,right!
With the exception of the first page there is linear motion from right to left on most every page...

Steven makes a good point. You shouldn't ignore it. Right or wrong, our brains are wired to read from left to right due to how we are taught from early childhood. When we are given something that goes contrary to that it feels odd. It would be okay to do from time to time if it fits the narrative and is being used as a device to create that sense of oddness, but that's not what you are doing here.

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I just looked at your other thread with your artwork. Most of that reads right to left as well. What are your greatest influences (books and artists)? Also, you didn't really answer Steven's question: "Do your books read from left to right, or from right to left where you're from?"
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@Steven, I never really said I was SURPRISED that it didn't make it.

As for my job, I've been posting these 5 pages at a lot of other places since January '15 and everybody gets the idea . Nobody ever complained that they can't understand anything. I can see you're an editor and it's your thing to go by rules and I do agree with that but every story doesn't have to go schematic. I never sequenced them in a manner so that the action flows that way (left to right).

I don't have a lotta books but I know, everybody has a HUSH. In the first 6 pages of Hush, Batman travels right to left knocking out bad guys, takes the boy and gets out left to right. It's a matter of navigation. I just drew it the way I imagined it. After page 7, my story also goes left to right.

As for respect for medium, it got lost when DC/Marvel started screwing up creators, when original characters were feminized to satisfy a fad, when everybody started selling half naked pinup commissions without any storytelling at all, when they started making porn of it and millions of other reasons you can think of, daily. They've made it a full ON business, I'm giving you an unbiased version.

@Bishop, Most of that other thread was full of pinups and very few sequentials. I just tried to see what you saw and everything's still left to right. No, I'm not from Arabian Nights,haha. See, you got planted the seed that my story goes right to left and you searched out something like that. Even the writers I worked those images for, didn't mention a single change. Why?!? Because they DO get the story. Steven if of course right and you're good with it too.

Now, did you or did you not understand the 5 pages I've put above? If you do get the story, my point is proved.

@everybody who reads the post, there are no rules of storytelling. There's just "what works and what doesn't". I'm really glad of the above commenters, I like their views. I just tend not to agree with them fully.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:27 AM   #8
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Hey, y'all,
Since I've been making the story for too long now...from 2011, I've got a pretty good gallery of images. Here are some pieces from 2012. Kinda shows a lot about the story in one image.


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Old 08-18-2015, 11:14 PM   #10
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One more concept art for the comic
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Old 08-27-2015, 03:18 PM   #11
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Sorry, folks! Life-Time won't be a story with rainbows and butterflies.
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For the sake of realism in comics-
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