Golden Age Style Crime Comic Book Cover

Saul Haber · 02-08-2011, 08:43 PM

This is a book cover I did recently. The writer wanted it to be in a comic book style, so I decided to make it like an old Crime Comic cover. The drawing has a bit more modern styling, but that's how I draw...
What do you think?

Eric Rabbitsmasher · 02-08-2011, 10:01 PM

Beauty.

Looks like Marlon Brando and Joe Pesci.

bob281 · 02-08-2011, 11:07 PM

The heading and title look golden age but not the art.There is to much detail and anatomy is not wonky enough.I've seen alot of those covers they where more over the top than this.Still a nice drawing though.

OZ! · 02-08-2011, 11:48 PM

Beautiful work man. This is a great homage to older works and a very nice cover by today's standards as well. Way cool.

Please don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about, Bob. Most golden age artists were professional illustrators with nowhere else to ply their trade.

Eric Rabbitsmasher · 02-08-2011, 11:57 PM

It conveys the mood - I'd be happy, but I'm not paying for it.

bob281 · 02-09-2011, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OZ!

Beautiful work man. This is a great homage to older works and a very nice cover by today's standards as well. Way cool.

Please don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about, Bob. Most golden age artists were professional illustrators with nowhere else to ply their trade.

Yes they were but they had to work at a fastpace don't think you can post a couple of pics and think you know more than me about the golden age.I can post twenty pics with some wonky anatomy.I also said over the top those covers you posted are definitely over the top.The top one is not even golden age.Shows what you know.My bad neither one of those is a golden age cover.Care to challenge me on it?

ditchman · 02-09-2011, 03:40 AM

cool! I think the cast shadows look too black compared to the shadows on the guy, I think they would have looked better hatched maybe. looks good anyways... you could try to make the cover look a bit old/worn maybe (I tried to do this myself once but it didn't look very convincing, take a look old style cover )

OZ! · 02-09-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bob281

Yes they were but they had to work at a fastpace don't think you can post a couple of pics and think you know more than me about the golden age.I can post twenty pics with some wonky anatomy.I also said over the top those covers you posted are definitely over the top.The top one is not even golden age.Shows what you know.My bad neither one of those is a golden age cover.Care to challenge me on it?

And you would be right, partially. The Jekyll comic, while being a silver age item, was by a well renowned golden age artist. The BEWARE comic debuted in 1954. That's golden age slick.

Quoting you "There is too much detail and the anatomy is not wonky enough" you have no clue what you are talking about. Were there plenty of artists that weren't technical illustrators starting in comics at that point that had no concept of how to draw? Yes, but we have those in the industry today too. One of them became famous. His name is Liefeld. That doesn't mean you discredit an entire era of incredible artists. Please, refrain from speaking/posting/breathing. You'll appear more intelligent that way.

Here, learn something. This seems to have plenty of detail and good anatomy. Weird. Oh wait, most of them do.

The Dag · 02-09-2011, 07:15 AM

lol @ bob281 talking about anatomy.

bob281 · 02-09-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OZ!

And you would be right, partially. The Jekyll comic, while being a silver age item, was by a well renowned golden age artist. The BEWARE comic debuted in 1954. That's golden age slick.

Quoting you "There is too much detail and the anatomy is not wonky enough" you have no clue what you are talking about. Were there plenty of artists that weren't technical illustrators starting in comics at that point that had no concept of how to draw? Yes, but we have those in the industry today too. One of them became famous. His name is Liefeld. That doesn't mean you discredit an entire era of incredible artists. Please, refrain from speaking/posting/breathing. You'll appear more intelligent that way.

Here, learn something. This seems to have plenty of detail and good anatomy. Weird. Oh wait, most of them do.

Oh please I just proved you wrong.Now your not man enough to admit it.The fact is you have a personal issue with me from a awhile back.You thought your little snide comment would get over but you got exposed for knowing jack about comic history.You posted 2 covers from the nothing age.Any comic historian will tell you the golden age was over by 1954.You loose!

Magnus · 02-09-2011, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Haber

This is a book cover I did recently. The writer wanted it to be in a comic book style, so I decided to make it like an old Crime Comic cover. The drawing has a bit more modern styling, but that's how I draw...
What do you think?

I like the logo and the top, and the picture itself is cool. (Detailed or not, who the fuck cares?) I think the whole cover would be a bit better balanced if you had like a white bottom line, as well. That way the image on the cover would feel more framed. Now it feels a bit like it's leaking out from the cover, straight down.

Just my 2 cent.

:M:

Miguel Marques · 02-09-2011, 11:08 AM

OZ! · 02-09-2011, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob281

Oh please I just proved you wrong.Now your not man enough to admit it.The fact is you have a personal issue with me from a awhile back.You thought your little snide comment would get over but you got exposed for knowing jack about comic history.You posted 2 covers from the nothing age.Any comic historian will tell you the golden age was over by 1954.You loose!

Oops. You are right. The end of the golden age was 1950. '56 started the silver age. I tend to clump that little limbo period in with the golden. That's my mistake. And no, I don't have a personal vendetta against you. You made a ridiculous generalization about an era that you apparently only new the time period of. Kudos. So I am man enough to admit you were right about the original two covers. What do you have to say about the fact that you were wrong in general? Nothing? Frazetta's first published oil painting capped the end of the golden age in 1950. Before that he was illustrating covers and other guys like Eisner and L.B. Cole had been whipping out gorgeously lush illustrations like this since the 30's and 40's. If you can tell me that guys like that had bad anat and no detail then you're high.

So to reiterate. I was wrong about the era for "Beware". But that wasn't what I was pointing out. The cover stylings were still the same and those artists were all Golden age.

Saul, you did a great job replicating the feel of some of those old covers. Good work.

I just wanted to admit I was wrong for those covers to quash this. Anything else can simply be PM'd to me. Let's give Saul his thread back.

Saul Haber · 02-09-2011, 06:06 PM

Hey, guys, thanks for the comments. (But let's all be friends again

)

Regarding the Golden Age stylings: I honestly can see what bob281 is saying, because a lot of those old crime comics had some cheesy looking covers. But obviously there was a ton of amazing art from back then, also. I didn't think the guy who hired me would appreciate a cheesy looking drawing just for the sake of "accuracy" so I tried to do the best drawing I could (which still doesn't compare to the best of the Golden Age).
I will say that my art can sometimes get a little bit too "liney" and I feel the older style artists had much smoother and richer inks, which is something I always try to improve upon, but I'm not there yet.

ditchman - I agree about the shadows. What I really should have done was darken the shadows on the figures, but I can be a little cautious when it comes to putting down a lot of black on the page.

Magnus- I see what you're saying, but I didn't see that kind of thing on any of the old covers I looked at, so I didn't want to mess with that vibe.

02-08-2011, 08:43 PM	#1
Saul Haber Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,581	Golden Age Style Crime Comic Book Cover This is a book cover I did recently. The writer wanted it to be in a comic book style, so I decided to make it like an old Crime Comic cover. The drawing has a bit more modern styling, but that's how I draw... What do you think?

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02-08-2011, 10:01 PM	#2
Eric Rabbitsmasher Call me Rabbit Fighter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Ballrooms of Mars Posts: 1,678	Beauty. Looks like Marlon Brando and Joe Pesci.

02-08-2011, 11:07 PM	#3
bob281 Southernplayalistic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 515	The heading and title look golden age but not the art.There is to much detail and anatomy is not wonky enough.I've seen alot of those covers they where more over the top than this.Still a nice drawing though.

02-08-2011, 11:48 PM	#4
OZ! All Powerful Wizard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 4,501	Beautiful work man. This is a great homage to older works and a very nice cover by today's standards as well. Way cool. Please don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about, Bob. Most golden age artists were professional illustrators with nowhere else to ply their trade.

02-08-2011, 11:57 PM	#5
Eric Rabbitsmasher Call me Rabbit Fighter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Ballrooms of Mars Posts: 1,678	It conveys the mood - I'd be happy, but I'm not paying for it.

02-09-2011, 03:40 AM	#7
ditchman pixel pusher Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Birmingham- home of Sabbath Posts: 1,121	cool! I think the cast shadows look too black compared to the shadows on the guy, I think they would have looked better hatched maybe. looks good anyways... you could try to make the cover look a bit old/worn maybe (I tried to do this myself once but it didn't look very convincing, take a look old style cover )

02-09-2011, 07:15 AM	#9
The Dag Clan G33K$ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: MA Posts: 6,813	lol @ bob281 talking about anatomy.

02-09-2011, 11:08 AM	#12
Miguel Marques Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brasil Posts: 2,068

02-09-2011, 06:06 PM	#14
Saul Haber Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,581	Hey, guys, thanks for the comments. (But let's all be friends again ) Regarding the Golden Age stylings: I honestly can see what bob281 is saying, because a lot of those old crime comics had some cheesy looking covers. But obviously there was a ton of amazing art from back then, also. I didn't think the guy who hired me would appreciate a cheesy looking drawing just for the sake of "accuracy" so I tried to do the best drawing I could (which still doesn't compare to the best of the Golden Age). I will say that my art can sometimes get a little bit too "liney" and I feel the older style artists had much smoother and richer inks, which is something I always try to improve upon, but I'm not there yet. ditchman - I agree about the shadows. What I really should have done was darken the shadows on the figures, but I can be a little cautious when it comes to putting down a lot of black on the page. Magnus- I see what you're saying, but I didn't see that kind of thing on any of the old covers I looked at, so I didn't want to mess with that vibe.