Angels and Demons *spoilers*

Allegory Comics · 05-17-2009, 12:29 AM

I have been waiting all year to see this movie. Maybe it was just the hype I put on it, or maybe it's because I read the book so I always knew what was going to happen next ... but I was a little disappointed. Don't get me wrong. I liked it a lot. It was still better than Wolverine (I always prefer thinking movies over action thrill rides). I just didn't like it as much as I hoped I would.

It stayed pretty close to the book. Almost everything in the movie was in the book, but it still left a LOT of things out.

There's no mention of his clostrophobia. There is a scene or two when it would have come up.

Instead of the director of Cern coming to Langon, the Vatican is the one to ask him for help. In fact, the first 100+ pages of the book are set at Cern, but in the movie it's practically skipped over entirely. The director isn't even in the movie.

It also doesn't have the BBC reporters who were reporting everything to the world. The media is there, but no focus on anyone.

It mentions that the Camerlengo was the late-Pope's adopted son, just as it did in the book, but unlike the book the movie does not reveal that he was actually the Pope's biological son.

Speaking of fathers ... In the book, it was Vittoria's father who was killed at Cern. In the movie, he was her research partner.

In the book, Langdon went up in the helicopter with the Camerlengo. In the movie, the Camerlengo went alone. Which was better, actually, because I hated that scene in the book.

In the book, the killer kidnapped Vittoria and planned to rape and kill her. In the movie, he never catches her and when he does corner her and Langdon he just lets them go.

In the book, I believe all four of the Preferiti died, but in the movie, one of them lived.

There was a little bit changed (not much, and nothing significant) but there was a LOT left out. The whole movie moved at a very quick pace, and at times could be hard to follow if you don't already know the story.

I'm looking forward to the next book, "The Lost Symbol" in September, and I'm sure there will be another movie to follow.

I hope you like National Treasure 3!

Moonrider · 05-17-2009, 05:09 AM

Nice movie. Story is so-so, but that's one awesome explosion.

jedipencil · 07-02-2009, 09:16 AM

Has anyone else seen this movie so far?

I haven't seen it yet.... but am also looking forward to the next book...

The DarkMind · 07-02-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Allegory Comics

It stayed pretty close to the book. Almost everything in the movie was in the book, but it still left a LOT of things out.

There was a little bit changed (not much, and nothing significant) but there was a LOT left out. The whole movie moved at a very quick pace, and at times could be hard to follow if you don't already know the story.

the movie would probably be 4 hours long if they put EVERYTHING in.

pi0trov · 07-02-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jedipencil

Has anyone else seen this movie so far?

I haven't seen it yet.... but am also looking forward to the next book...

Saw it and enjoyed it, actually a lot more than I was expecting. Mainly saw it just to see the art and architecture (and my wife wanted to see it), but it ended up being an entertaining Hollywood popcorn thriller.

I really wasn't a fan of DaVinci Code, so I probably wasn't expecting much and was pleasantly surprised.

I haven't read any of Brown's novels, and don't really plan to. I also checked the IMDB listing for A&D and read through all the changes between the novel and the movie, and it sounded to me like they improved on the source material. So now I'm even less likely to go back and read them...

Moonrider · 07-02-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pi0trov

Saw it and enjoyed it, actually a lot more than I was expecting. Mainly saw it just to see the art and architecture (and my wife wanted to see it), but it ended up being an entertaining Hollywood popcorn thriller.

I really wasn't a fan of DaVinci Code, so I probably wasn't expecting much and was pleasantly surprised.

I haven't read any of Brown's novels, and don't really plan to. I also checked the IMDB listing for A&D and read through all the changes between the novel and the movie, and it sounded to me like they improved on the source material. So now I'm even less likely to go back and read them...

Many of my friends who are fans of the book say otherwise. It just doesn't have the same impact as the original story, and the message about science vs. religion is saturated.

pi0trov · 07-02-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonrider

Many of my friends who are fans of the book say otherwise. It just doesn't have the same impact as the original story, and the message about science vs. religion is saturated.

It's definately possible the message may have been diluted. Since I haven't read the book, I'm just going off the notes online, but what I saw was a lot of story elements that sounded really cliche and would've made the movie even more "typical Hollywood" than it already was.

So maybe not so much the overall story was improved, just some of the plot points. But then, I'm just interpretating things I read on-line, so who knows how accurate they really are...

Moonrider · 07-02-2009, 11:23 PM

I think Hollywood didn't do much besides taking the controversial aspects away from the movie. Some things I agree on, some things I don't. Standing on its own I think the movie was just okay. The villain reveal was a dead giveaway but Ewan McGregor delivered it pretty well, though the character's intention was obscured because they left one significant plot point from the book.

jedipencil · 07-03-2009, 08:47 AM

Did they really take the controversial parts away? Oh well. Tom Hanks and Ewan McGregor are always worth watching....

Allegory Comics · 07-07-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The DarkMind

the movie would probably be 4 hours long if they put EVERYTHING in.

Yeah, I expected SOME parsing, but they entirely cut out the first 1/3 of the book. They focus more on the religious elements of the book and not so much on the science. The whole story is about the war between religion and science, but that seemed to get lost in the movie. They could have done a better job including those parts.

05-17-2009, 12:29 AM	#1
Allegory Comics Master Marlovian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,633	Angels and Demons spoilers I have been waiting all year to see this movie. Maybe it was just the hype I put on it, or maybe it's because I read the book so I always knew what was going to happen next ... but I was a little disappointed. Don't get me wrong. I liked it a lot. It was still better than Wolverine (I always prefer thinking movies over action thrill rides). I just didn't like it as much as I hoped I would. It stayed pretty close to the book. Almost everything in the movie was in the book, but it still left a LOT of things out. There's no mention of his clostrophobia. There is a scene or two when it would have come up. Instead of the director of Cern coming to Langon, the Vatican is the one to ask him for help. In fact, the first 100+ pages of the book are set at Cern, but in the movie it's practically skipped over entirely. The director isn't even in the movie. It also doesn't have the BBC reporters who were reporting everything to the world. The media is there, but no focus on anyone. It mentions that the Camerlengo was the late-Pope's adopted son, just as it did in the book, but unlike the book the movie does not reveal that he was actually the Pope's biological son. Speaking of fathers ... In the book, it was Vittoria's father who was killed at Cern. In the movie, he was her research partner. In the book, Langdon went up in the helicopter with the Camerlengo. In the movie, the Camerlengo went alone. Which was better, actually, because I hated that scene in the book. In the book, the killer kidnapped Vittoria and planned to rape and kill her. In the movie, he never catches her and when he does corner her and Langdon he just lets them go. In the book, I believe all four of the Preferiti died, but in the movie, one of them lived. There was a little bit changed (not much, and nothing significant) but there was a LOT left out. The whole movie moved at a very quick pace, and at times could be hard to follow if you don't already know the story. I'm looking forward to the next book, "The Lost Symbol" in September, and I'm sure there will be another movie to follow. I hope you like National Treasure 3!

07-02-2009, 09:16 AM	#3
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07-03-2009, 08:47 AM	#9
jedipencil Rabid Horse Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: East of Montreal Posts: 3,095	Did they really take the controversial parts away? Oh well. Tom Hanks and Ewan McGregor are always worth watching.... __________________ Rabid Horse l My Etsy Store l Goodreads Allons-y!

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05-17-2009, 05:09 AM	#2
Moonrider Registered Abuser Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 6,934	Nice movie. Story is so-so, but that's one awesome explosion.

07-02-2009, 11:23 PM	#8
Moonrider Registered Abuser Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 6,934	I think Hollywood didn't do much besides taking the controversial aspects away from the movie. Some things I agree on, some things I don't. Standing on its own I think the movie was just okay. The villain reveal was a dead giveaway but Ewan McGregor delivered it pretty well, though the character's intention was obscured because they left one significant plot point from the book.