16-panel window frame

**carynord** · 03-13-2009, 09:29 PM

This is a nice simple exercise --don't just read it, for the maximum benefit, do it! There is a big difference between reading something and getting the concept and executing it.

This is how you draw a window frame.

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Draw a simple rectangle in a window shape. Establish your horizon line and vanishing point however you want. Divide the rectangle up with diagonal lines from corner to opposite corner. From here you can draw in the frame as shown.

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Connect the corners of the frame to the vanishing point to create depth. You can make it as deep as you want --as long as it still looks like a reasonable depth for a window frame. It's key to establish the secondary plane behind the window frame --behind the first rectangle you made. I've shaded around the secondary plane in an attempt to highlight the rectangle behind the frame.

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Draw diagonal lines corner to corner to find the center of the rectangle in the back. Notice the new diagonal 'X' is not in the same spot as in the first example! There are two different planes here and you need to find the center of both planes.
Follow? ...seriously, let me know if this makes sense.

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Divide the rectangle up further by creating divisions in each section of the original rectangle. You should have 4 equal parts per side.

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Now you have the frame for your 16 panel window.

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And then the finishing touches.

The important part of this is finding the center on two separate planes. You have to find the center on one plane by dividing the square up before you can find the center on the second plane.

Now you can create depth accurately.

Scaleyinx · 03-13-2009, 09:49 PM

Ah HA!

Now I know why I always hate my multi-paneled windows and french doors. I've been lost about how to find the second center of the cookie,...er, I mean the plane. Thanks Cary!

I'm gonna try this excersize.

NickGuy · 03-14-2009, 02:46 PM

nice. im going to do this on my own when i get a moment!

Justice41 · 03-14-2009, 03:09 PM

Just to add to Cary's notes.

Sequential76 · 03-16-2009, 12:43 AM

**carynord** · 03-16-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sequential76

There ya go. Simple, right?

Justice41 · 03-16-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sequential76

Notice on both sides of the inset frame you have equal spacing seen of the window frame. If the frame is set back you shouldn't see as much of the frame from the left side(as we see the drawing) Because it's set back a few inches the exterior frame would hide a bit of the window frame. It's little things but if you keep these things in mind it creates a sense of reality in the drawings. Thickness, depth, shade and shadow all help to create the environment that your characters live in.

Sequential76 · 03-16-2009, 11:30 AM

Cary: I think simple in that I understand the concept. THe first one I did was way off, my second try is the one I post and it took me too long, This last one below took me less than 10 minutes and it better executed.

Justice41: I did the last version below with your comments in mind.

Thanks,

**carynord** · 03-16-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sequential76

Cary: I think simple in that I understand the concept. THe first one I did was way off, my second try is the one I post and it took me too long, This last one below took me less than 10 minutes and it better executed.

Justice41: I did the last version below with your comments in mind.

Thanks,

Oops! I missed that on your first round... nice catch, Justice.

You have to find the center for each plane.

Bluepencil · 03-16-2009, 03:55 PM

here is mine.

Justice41 · 03-16-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluepencil

here is mine.
http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/t...FramesDWCN.jpg

You also did what Sequential76 did initially.

The Art Keeper · 03-16-2009, 10:30 PM

still working on the other scene

**carynord** · 03-16-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluepencil

here is mine.

Yeah, make sure you find the center of the back plane too.

**carynord** · 03-16-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Art Keeper

still working on the other scene

Good. You got it. That corner on the window sill is a little distorted. I'd want my money back from that carpenter. You can use the division of squares technique to find the center of anything.

You should be conscious of your lines, even on a simple exercise that will never see inks. Try to make them deliberate, something an inker could interpret easily.

galmando · 03-18-2009, 02:02 PM

in my hotel room tnight so ican practice this, looking forwrd to it, got my self my set square from WHSmiths, shame i cant do the perspective turotial yet cuz i aint got the refence in front of me, dang it!!

03-13-2009, 09:29 PM	#1
carynord Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,322	16-panel window frame This is a nice simple exercise --don't just read it, for the maximum benefit, do it! There is a big difference between reading something and getting the concept and executing it. This is how you draw a window frame. [IMG][/IMG] Draw a simple rectangle in a window shape. Establish your horizon line and vanishing point however you want. Divide the rectangle up with diagonal lines from corner to opposite corner. From here you can draw in the frame as shown. [IMG][/IMG] Connect the corners of the frame to the vanishing point to create depth. You can make it as deep as you want --as long as it still looks like a reasonable depth for a window frame. It's key to establish the secondary plane behind the window frame --behind the first rectangle you made. I've shaded around the secondary plane in an attempt to highlight the rectangle behind the frame. [IMG][/IMG] Draw diagonal lines corner to corner to find the center of the rectangle in the back. Notice the new diagonal 'X' is not in the same spot as in the first example! There are two different planes here and you need to find the center of both planes. Follow? ...seriously, let me know if this makes sense. [IMG][/IMG] Divide the rectangle up further by creating divisions in each section of the original rectangle. You should have 4 equal parts per side. [IMG][/IMG] Now you have the frame for your 16 panel window. [IMG][/IMG] And then the finishing touches. The important part of this is finding the center on two separate planes. You have to find the center on one plane by dividing the square up before you can find the center on the second plane. Now you can create depth accurately.

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03-13-2009, 09:49 PM	#2
Scaleyinx Chicken Whisperer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: In a shack Posts: 1,897	Ah HA! Now I know why I always hate my multi-paneled windows and french doors. I've been lost about how to find the second center of the cookie,...er, I mean the plane. Thanks Cary! I'm gonna try this excersize.

03-14-2009, 02:46 PM	#3
NickGuy I miss my daughter Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,896	nice. im going to do this on my own when i get a moment!

03-14-2009, 03:09 PM	#4
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,419	Just to add to Cary's notes.

03-16-2009, 12:43 AM	#5
Sequential76 Stepping on Giants Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 931

03-16-2009, 11:30 AM	#8
Sequential76 Stepping on Giants Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 931	Cary: I think simple in that I understand the concept. THe first one I did was way off, my second try is the one I post and it took me too long, This last one below took me less than 10 minutes and it better executed. Justice41: I did the last version below with your comments in mind. Thanks,

03-16-2009, 03:55 PM	#10
Bluepencil Random Artist Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 127	here is mine.

03-16-2009, 10:30 PM	#12
The Art Keeper inkslinger Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Desolate New Mexico Posts: 649	still working on the other scene

03-18-2009, 02:02 PM	#15
galmando backwards it's odnamlag Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: I live in Sunny Manchester, UK!! Posts: 1,954	in my hotel room tnight so ican practice this, looking forwrd to it, got my self my set square from WHSmiths, shame i cant do the perspective turotial yet cuz i aint got the refence in front of me, dang it!!