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Justice41 · 03-14-2009, 01:08 PM

Floorplans from the architect and landscape plans and city Arial photos of the site. Plot projection perspective sketch. had to do the sketch a few times to get the right angle but I just make boxes at the beginning so it's not a big deal. Then pencils and finally inks. I ink with rapidographs and artpens on canson vellum. This is old. Maybe 10+ years old. here's the building as it looks built. Changes were made to the final actual building. Not sure why but there you go.

I did this color rendering as well.

Click here to see what My original inks and watercolors looked like before they butchered it.

Justice41 · 03-14-2009, 03:12 PM

Here is the quick floorplans i drew for the tutorial. So study it.

raya · 03-14-2009, 04:42 PM

Just wondering, what do you guys think of using 3D programs for references?

Justice41 · 03-14-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by raya

Just wondering, what do you guys think of using 3D programs for references?

If you don't have an eye, built on the basics, for proper looking stuff even what you can produce with a 3D app will not help. Once you know how and why something is it's easier to apply to 3D. I see a lot of 3D art that is dead and really angular.

madelf · 03-14-2009, 08:14 PM

Well, I ended up with some free time today, so I dove in and re-worked my sketch into a drawing. And, since I was given the green-light to take liberties with the reference... I decided to do a little time-traveling.

So tear it up, Cary (and anyone else who has any thoughts should feel free to crit me too).

Justice41 · 03-14-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madelf

Well, I ended up with some free time today, so I dove in and re-worked my sketch into a drawing. And, since I was given the green-light to take liberties with the reference... I decided to do a little time-traveling.

So tear it up, Cary (and anyone else who has any thoughts should feel free to crit me too).

Shadows and shades. A simple way to determine shadows is with an adjustable triangle. To figure out shadows just draw a line from the top of the object using the adjustable triangle(AT). Using an arbitrary vanishing point off to the far right or left draw a line from the bottom of the objects and where ever the two lines meet is the shadows cast. By adjusting the AT from 45 degrees up or down you can show different times of the day. Night time is a whole nudder story.

marcom · 03-14-2009, 11:00 PM

this is such a great exercise. a little to swamped to jump in, but i may have some of my students give it a shot.

mad elf- good study.

Saul Haber · 03-15-2009, 12:50 AM

Damn it. I might have to jump in on this...

**Ray Dillon** · 03-15-2009, 07:12 AM

Started on mine a couple of days ago. Having trouble finding time to finish it with deadlines galore, but I will. Wanted to let you know I didn't just make a fuss about the whole thing and then vanish.

Madelf - Great adaptation of the scene!

JamieRoberts · 03-15-2009, 08:33 AM

I'm kinda midway through right now, and it's just made me realise how little I understand. I'm re-reading David Chelsea's book (invaluable, indeed) and hopefully making progress. However, I'm going to start again on my interpretation because even with the best will, I managed to lay shaky foundations for the pic.

**Ray Dillon** · 03-15-2009, 08:42 AM

Yeah, David Chelsea's book is gold. When I learned of the grid shortcut system, that helped so much.

Jamie, I'm very much looking forward to seeing yours. I'm sure it will be unique.

JamieRoberts · 03-15-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Dillon

Yeah, David Chelsea's book is gold. When I learned of the grid shortcut system, that helped so much.

Jamie, I'm very much looking forward to seeing yours. I'm sure it will be unique.

That would be one way of putting it, yeah....

To be honest, the vector stuff has allowed me to get lazy and forget basics. I'm totally ignoring my usual style for this.

Sequential76 · 03-15-2009, 01:59 PM

Hey that Jasck-a$$ in the pick-up is parked right on the cross walk! Someone should draw hulk smashing him.

madelf · 03-15-2009, 04:12 PM

Justice41:
Great tip. Thanks.
Now I'll have to find my adjustable triangle.

Marcom and Ray Dillon:
Thanks guys. I'm glad you liked it.

Sequential76 · 03-15-2009, 05:55 PM

Hey Cary,
I really dig your work and I'm open to any suggestions.
Thanks!

03-15-2009, 07:12 AM	#69
Ray Dillon Golden Goat Studios Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cape Elizabeth, Maine Posts: 7,299	Started on mine a couple of days ago. Having trouble finding time to finish it with deadlines galore, but I will. Wanted to let you know I didn't just make a fuss about the whole thing and then vanish. Madelf - Great adaptation of the scene! __________________ RAY DILLON - Artist/Writer - Golden Goat Studios CLIENTS: HBO's Game of Thrones, Borderlands 2, Ridley Scott / Science Channel, R.L. Stine, IDW / Mars Attacks, Marvel, DC, Archie * Met wife/artist Renae De Liz here in DW! ART: COVERS : COMICS : FILM/GAME : uTube : FOLLOW ME!

03-15-2009, 08:42 AM	#71
Ray Dillon Golden Goat Studios Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cape Elizabeth, Maine Posts: 7,299	Yeah, David Chelsea's book is gold. When I learned of the grid shortcut system, that helped so much. Jamie, I'm very much looking forward to seeing yours. I'm sure it will be unique. __________________ RAY DILLON - Artist/Writer - Golden Goat Studios CLIENTS: HBO's Game of Thrones, Borderlands 2, Ridley Scott / Science Channel, R.L. Stine, IDW / Mars Attacks, Marvel, DC, Archie * Met wife/artist Renae De Liz here in DW! ART: COVERS : COMICS : FILM/GAME : uTube : FOLLOW ME!

03-15-2009, 05:55 PM	#75
Sequential76 Stepping on Giants Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 931	My Stab Hey Cary, I really dig your work and I'm open to any suggestions. Thanks!

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03-14-2009, 01:08 PM	#61
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,364	Floorplans from the architect and landscape plans and city Arial photos of the site. Plot projection perspective sketch. had to do the sketch a few times to get the right angle but I just make boxes at the beginning so it's not a big deal. Then pencils and finally inks. I ink with rapidographs and artpens on canson vellum. This is old. Maybe 10+ years old. here's the building as it looks built. Changes were made to the final actual building. Not sure why but there you go. I did this color rendering as well. Click here to see what My original inks and watercolors looked like before they butchered it.

03-14-2009, 03:12 PM	#62
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,364	Here is the quick floorplans i drew for the tutorial. So study it.

03-14-2009, 04:42 PM	#63
raya Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,326	Just wondering, what do you guys think of using 3D programs for references?

03-14-2009, 08:14 PM	#65
madelf aka: Calvin Camp Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 623	Well, I ended up with some free time today, so I dove in and re-worked my sketch into a drawing. And, since I was given the green-light to take liberties with the reference... I decided to do a little time-traveling. So tear it up, Cary (and anyone else who has any thoughts should feel free to crit me too).

03-14-2009, 11:00 PM	#67
marcom Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 128	this is such a great exercise. a little to swamped to jump in, but i may have some of my students give it a shot. mad elf- good study.

03-15-2009, 12:50 AM	#68
Saul Haber Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,581	Damn it. I might have to jump in on this...

03-15-2009, 08:33 AM	#70
JamieRoberts Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,689	I'm kinda midway through right now, and it's just made me realise how little I understand. I'm re-reading David Chelsea's book (invaluable, indeed) and hopefully making progress. However, I'm going to start again on my interpretation because even with the best will, I managed to lay shaky foundations for the pic.

03-15-2009, 01:59 PM	#73
Sequential76 Stepping on Giants Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 931	Hey that Jasck-a$$ in the pick-up is parked right on the cross walk! Someone should draw hulk smashing him.

03-15-2009, 04:12 PM	#74
madelf aka: Calvin Camp Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 623	Justice41: Great tip. Thanks. Now I'll have to find my adjustable triangle. Marcom and Ray Dillon: Thanks guys. I'm glad you liked it.