does she have the right idea?

xombey · 09-21-2007, 11:02 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070921/...itics_marriage

The DarkMind · 09-21-2007, 11:10 AM

ABSOLUTELY.

7 years with the option to renew is an excellent idea.

Mike225 · 09-21-2007, 11:14 AM

Yeah, it's a good idea.

Newt · 09-21-2007, 12:03 PM

Sure, why not? People need to understand the distinction between civil marriage and holy matrimony; you may enter both at the same time, but they're not the same thing. What any faith has to say about marriage should have no effect on any country's marriage laws.

The DarkMind · 09-21-2007, 12:12 PM

it would even work to the christian religions advantage from a statistical standpoint by seeing a significant drop in the divorce rate.

Screeny · 09-21-2007, 12:17 PM

At least it would stop all of the itching.

xombey · 09-21-2007, 12:43 PM

or increase it. what, with all the remarrying every 7 yrs.

Cat · 09-21-2007, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newt

Sure, why not? People need to understand the distinction between civil marriage and holy matrimony; you may enter both at the same time, but they're not the same thing. What any faith has to say about marriage should have no effect on any country's marriage laws.

That is the most brilliant thing I have read in a long time!

dano · 09-21-2007, 02:31 PM

Why bother getting married at all then. Just live together. The point of marriage regardless of its civil/religious genesis, is to say, "i am committed to you until death'.
not 'I am committed to you until i get bored.'

If you don't feel that way, why even bother to get married. That way you can just break up with the other ad hoc.

The DarkMind · 09-21-2007, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dano

Why bother getting married at all then.

I can sum this up in two words.

Tax Benefits

MattWaterman · 09-21-2007, 02:36 PM

Not to be a spoilsport but.....IS this a good idea...?

I mean, I'm kinda unclear by the article whether she wants change within the curch, wants change within the law, or if she was just making a suggestion. To me, this seems to be the contraposative of many of the critiques levelled at those who denounce same-sex marriage: It's telling others how they can and cannot live. Just as marriage should be allowed same-sex partners, people who wish to be a part of a religious organization should be entitled their own style of marriage* I don't know. While yeah, it does have a certain "what's good for the goose..." quality, I believe it runs the risk of being as closed minded as those on the other side of the issue.

$0.02

*The sticky issue of polygomy as it relates to child abuse notwithstanding.

FA · 09-21-2007, 02:45 PM

The point of getting married isn't to get a tax break. It's to give you that formal reminder that when times get tough, which they inevitably will, you need to work through it together and as such learn something rather than go "fuck it" and chase the greener grass. It shouldn't have to be that way but apparently with the "KICK HIM TO THE CURB, GIRLFRIEND!" attitude that people mindlessly parrot, it needs to be.

But what do I know. I just did it to get a visa.

That is, of course, a joke. Please don't call the INS - they're pretty mean.

dano · 09-21-2007, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The DarkMind

I can sum this up in two words.

Tax Benefits

People can do that now. If all they want is tax breaks, get married. Divorce should be easy since both parties agree.

Considering the suggestion came from someone with 2 divorces under her belt, I don't presume she gives a rat's ass about marriage or finding a decent partner for more than several years anyway.

MattWaterman · 09-21-2007, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dano

Considering the suggestion came from someone with 2 divorces under her belt, I don't presume she gives a rat's ass about marriage or finding a decent partner for more than several years anyway.

She is pretty hot, as older women go...

JAQ · 09-21-2007, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newt

Sure, why not? People need to understand the distinction between civil marriage and holy matrimony; you may enter both at the same time, but they're not the same thing. What any faith has to say about marriage should have no effect on any country's marriage laws.

That's what I think is ridiculous about all the talk of "banning gay marriage". There's no law that any legislature in the U.S. can pass that would ban gay couples from having a religious ceremony in which their church, friends, and family recognize them as "married". (I went to one last year. And yes, I cried.) That's a basic First Amendment right that even the current Supremes would uphold. What they mean is "barring gay couples from the benefits of civil marriage." Which is (IMHO) really bad public policy, but at least it's (arguably) Constitutional.

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09-21-2007, 11:10 AM	#2
The DarkMind Chaos Array Studios Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Trapped inside the head of the infamous Timothy Gula Posts: 1,947	ABSOLUTELY. 7 years with the option to renew is an excellent idea.

09-21-2007, 11:14 AM	#3
Mike225 low brow B1Tch Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right in the brainpan squish! Posts: 5,719	Yeah, it's a good idea.

09-21-2007, 12:03 PM	#4
Newt Common cold fusion Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: On the mighty Cumberland Posts: 5,136	Sure, why not? People need to understand the distinction between civil marriage and holy matrimony; you may enter both at the same time, but they're not the same thing. What any faith has to say about marriage should have no effect on any country's marriage laws.

09-21-2007, 12:12 PM	#5
The DarkMind Chaos Array Studios Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Trapped inside the head of the infamous Timothy Gula Posts: 1,947	it would even work to the christian religions advantage from a statistical standpoint by seeing a significant drop in the divorce rate.

09-21-2007, 12:17 PM	#6
Screeny Quite! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Worchestestershire Posts: 1,018	At least it would stop all of the itching.

09-21-2007, 12:43 PM	#7
xombey Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,055	or increase it. what, with all the remarrying every 7 yrs.

09-21-2007, 02:31 PM	#9
dano . Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Penna Posts: 923	Why bother getting married at all then. Just live together. The point of marriage regardless of its civil/religious genesis, is to say, "i am committed to you until death'. not 'I am committed to you until i get bored.' If you don't feel that way, why even bother to get married. That way you can just break up with the other ad hoc.

09-21-2007, 02:36 PM	#11
MattWaterman Has always adored Chad K. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: up my ass Posts: 4,911	Not to be a spoilsport but.....IS this a good idea...? I mean, I'm kinda unclear by the article whether she wants change within the curch, wants change within the law, or if she was just making a suggestion. To me, this seems to be the contraposative of many of the critiques levelled at those who denounce same-sex marriage: It's telling others how they can and cannot live. Just as marriage should be allowed same-sex partners, people who wish to be a part of a religious organization should be entitled their own style of marriage* I don't know. While yeah, it does have a certain "what's good for the goose..." quality, I believe it runs the risk of being as closed minded as those on the other side of the issue. $0.02 *The sticky issue of polygomy as it relates to child abuse notwithstanding.

09-21-2007, 02:45 PM	#12
FA The New Red Scare Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: On the Cusp Posts: 2,152	The point of getting married isn't to get a tax break. It's to give you that formal reminder that when times get tough, which they inevitably will, you need to work through it together and as such learn something rather than go "fuck it" and chase the greener grass. It shouldn't have to be that way but apparently with the "KICK HIM TO THE CURB, GIRLFRIEND!" attitude that people mindlessly parrot, it needs to be. But what do I know. I just did it to get a visa. That is, of course, a joke. Please don't call the INS - they're pretty mean.