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Old 06-07-2007, 09:36 PM   #1
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Too many titles!

DC needs to put some books on the chopping block. This was one of the worst week of new releases that I have seen in a very long time.

If you could cancel any DC books what would they be.

My choices.
Green Arrow- Love the character, but is only good in a team book.

Nightwing- Same as above, great with the Outsiders, but lousy solo.

Every Batman book except Detective, and Batman

Every Superman book except All Star, Superman, Action.

The Flash

All new Atom

Birds of Prey

Shadowpact

Catwoman

Checkmate

Robin

Blue Beetle

Hawkgirl

They can take all of these books and create better ensembles.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:42 PM   #2
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I'd reduce both Batman and Superman to just *one* book, but I'd make it 64 pages.

Also, everybody else who has a solo book but is also involved in a team book. One or the other, period.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:52 PM   #3
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The Superman/Batman book is pretty good most of the time. All Star Superman is awesome. You can't get rid of Action or Detective since they are the two longest running titles.

I would like to see a series with The Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, and the Question. I think that would make an interesting team.

I would also cancel anything that Judd Winnick is allowed to work on.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:56 PM   #4
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No reason they can't expand action and detective to 64 pages, and have 2 creative teams (ie two unrelated stories).

It's cheaper and I think fans (especially those with strapped wallets) would enjoy and appreciate it.
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:19 PM   #5
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The saddest thing is that most of those books were really good a couple of years back. Since he is one of my favorites Nightwing should still have his own book and it's been starting to pick up since wolfman has taken over. Other then that most were really good until the one year later, funny since it was suppose to make them better.
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:24 AM   #6
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Personally I'd axe most of them (as DC, not as a collector per se'). Ditch pretty much all the B list and certainly all of the C list, and keep top notch books going. Take all the beloved B and C list books and condense them into a couple of team style books with rotating characters and get the B and C list characters into recurring roles in the top books. Too much filler, not enough meat.
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:54 AM   #7
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The B and C list books are some of the better books. The problem with the A list books is that they are A list and will sell no matter how bad they are. Super and Action have been uninspired for a long while, but the same can be said with Marvel A-list as well.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:34 AM   #8
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When you look at what Marvel, Image, and other companies put out, DC really isn't that bad.

I agree that Superman and Batman should only have one, maybe two, regular titles a month. Limit minis or make them original trades/delux projects. These two characters are DCs bread and butter so it'll never happen but it would be nice. The one title per character, 64 pages, isn't a bad idea either.

I also agree w/ Jamal that some of the second and third tier books are better than the first tier titles. You'll always have Green Lantern, Flash, Wonder Woman, etc... with their own books. Characters like Green Arrow, Atom, Aquaman, Hawkman/Hawkgirl, etc... will always come and go in time.

(Jamal... pick up the Busiek/Pacheo issues of Superman and give it a try.... much better than Supes has been in a long, long time.)

Books will come and books will go. Its the nature of the industry. The best rule to live by is read what you like and don't worry about the rest.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:00 AM   #9
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Of all the titles mentioned above I only read Blue Beetle, Batman and occationally Action Comics. I still put up with The Flash because it's supposed to be a nice point for a new reader to jump on, but if things don't get better I'll drop it for sure.

That said, I still can't find the real logic behind calling a character A-list or C-list. From a sales standpoint sure, there are books that will always sell well and there are books that don't. But there are also books that won't be able to shine if they are axed too early. And I also don't see the urgency in axing any of the second tier titles above. It's not like DC is stretching their resources thin or anything, and those who do not read them shouldn't even care. Besides, more books could mean more work for us in the future
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Old 06-08-2007, 02:20 PM   #10
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You eliminate those books and I would only be reading Teen Titans and Jonah Hex. and Green Arrow ends with 75, though there may be a new book Green Arrow and Black Canary, so it's a step closer to a team book.
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i say, combine some of the 2nd and 3rd tier books into 64 page books w/revolving stories

this month you get a green arrow story followed by aquaman, next month you get part 2 of aquaman story followed by the flash.
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Old 06-08-2007, 08:47 PM   #12
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I like the idea of a revolving book. The problem is, with so many titles, you can't make every title a good read. DC puts to many restrictions on the characters, thus giving titles to writers who can not write good stories within those restrictions.
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Old 06-09-2007, 12:17 AM   #13
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Maybe they can take all those titles and put it in a big anthology book. You know, like a manga.
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Well, I wouldn't want to see Atom or Flash cancelled. I started reading Atom because of Byrne's art, and stayed with it since its been pretty good so far. The Flash has gotten much better, in my opinion, since Marc Guggenheim took over the writing.
What I would like to see though, is a book like World's Finest was in the early 80s. It was 64 pages, I think, with a featured story with Superman and Batman, followed by a bunch of short stories featuring "B-listers" like Green Arrow, Hawkman, Black Lightning, Black Canary, etc.
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Both DC and Marvel put out too many lesser books. Some fat definitely needs to be trimmed, that's for sure.
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