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Robert Tidwell - JUGGALO
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I suck at writing pitches...
The following is a pitch I plan to include with my entry to the comic book challenge. I followed the scryptic studios guide to pitching and I always end up writing more than I think is necessary. Please read this and let me know if you were a judge, would you want this to make it to the next round?
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Sorry, if I were an editor I would just send back a form rejection.
First off this pitch doesn't tell me your story. You mention about half way through that you consider this a one shot, so does that mean you're going to tell that entire story in 22 pages? Do you have an artist? This isn't a pitch its a story synopsis that's probably more appropriate for a novel. I think you have way too much story to fit into a oneshot. Second of all, this is not the best time for do Ogres not fitting into society story. Being happy with yourself and dealing with prejudice is one of the main themes of Shrek, which is also about Orgres. Also for me, and this is just my opinion, it sounds too preachy. |
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Robert Tidwell - JUGGALO
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The story isn't about being happy with oneself, its about the way americans have treated middle easterners after 9/11, although Grigoriys self esteem is a major part of the story, the over all theme is very different from shrek. Letting alone the content review, which I appreciate, could you give me some ideas on how to make the pitch better.
Yes, it is a one shot and the script is finished, it all fits into 22 pages, mostly through prose. The story progresses on Grigoriy's way of thinking exactly as i laid out in paragraphs three, four and five. It is told through his thoughts about key moments in his life and his current perception of the people he cares most about. Someone had suggest that I seperate the different sections with titles, so I'll post that(along with some slight rewrites) below. Should I mention that it is stream of conciousness? Quote:
http://a283.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...1e9f751ca2.jpg Last edited by The Anti-crest; 05-17-2007 at 12:12 AM. |
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I agree with Scribe. If I was a judge I wouldn’t want it to make it to the next round. Very weak allegory, you’ve taken modern day events and changed Muslim to Ogre. Just because you’ve spray painted a black car red doesn’t change the fact it’s the same car.
Also based on the pitch you aren’t really commenting on anything, just regurgitating the realities of today. I would suggest changing Orge back to Muslim and setting it in contemporary times. That’s just the impression I get from the pitch, but who knows the script could be fantastic. That begin said now that I’ve seen the art…
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Robert Tidwell - JUGGALO
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what do you mean by the whistling?
thanks for the feed back, does it really come off that weak? What I had on my myspace(I just changed it and didn't save the original) was a very brief sample of what I've typed out, mostly the Overview and concept paragraphs and people add me every day and send a comment or note that they don't read comics but that they think it sounds cool, then they ask me where they can buy it and i have to tell them they cant :'( yet. The reason I used ogres was to kind of do what Maus did with jews=mouse, nazi's=cats. I wanted to show the many differences of not just muslims but many middle easterners in extremely simple and direct ways. I chose physical attributes and decided to make each different sect of either religion or race in the middle east a seperate type of creature. There is an elf who gets picked on, he's meant to be a buddhist. Also the Ogres are Armenians which are predominantly christian. Last edited by The Anti-crest; 05-17-2007 at 12:28 AM. |
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You are taking a different approach than Maus, with Orge there is still the human element. I’m not suggestion you completely lose the anthropomorphic element, but right now it seems like you’ve only gone halfway. Last edited by Multisync143; 05-17-2007 at 12:43 AM. |
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Robert Tidwell - JUGGALO
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oh, i usually use the whistling icon as kinda a sarcastic, "um, I'm going to go stand over here." heh. I wanted to make sure i understood what you were getting at.
Thanks for reading it though, sorry you don't think it sounds interesting. Aside from losing the anthropomorphic qualities, any other suggestions? |
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W. Smith Publications
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Hey A-C.
It is harder to seperate the fantasy creatures into pro and con like Maus did with mice and cats. The story can get too contrived really easily. Lemme check the whole thing out carefully and then give you some more |
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Robert Tidwell - JUGGALO
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The thing is though, the trolls(which are muslims) aren't really the bad guys of the story. The Monsters(which are terrorists if you havent figured that out) mostly play as evil doers through out the story, but the conflict comes from the people of Cro Magnia(which are Americans) treating all the species from other parts of the world as Monsters with out taking into consideration who or what they are.
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W. Smith Publications
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Okay Here's my take. I like the story and the art...I would be hesitant in using the human race...I know what I said earlier in the last post. Ignore that..Pay attention now.
No one is so different as humans and ogres. The reason X-men worked so well for so long was that many of the differences were minor or easily disguised. I would use a different race...maybe another fantasy race...Dwarves, Goblins? something not quite so different. The horror of our attitudes is that it is the terror we perpetuate on each other of like kind. Just my take.
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Remember the Star Trek episode with the guys who were the same but different? One was black on the right side and white on the left. The other was white on the right side and black on the left. To the casual observer they were the same, but to each other they were completely unalike. The beauty with that was its simplicity. Point being, Ogres are fucking scary.
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W. Smith Publications
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I"M AN OGRE!!!!
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W. Smith Publications
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not really
but almost
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Robert Tidwell - JUGGALO
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That sounds damned interesting. I never saw that episode because I never liked star trek. Anyway, I'm stuck using people because I've already paid the artist and I'm not about to have him redraw the whole thing. The people are drawn very sketchy and have very blank personalities. They almost look like ghosts. So, that being, from here on out the people are ghosts. You can see the people on the page with him at work. http://a871.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...5e35bfb936.jpg |
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