The Savage Sub-Mariner.

Justice41 · 05-12-2007, 01:17 PM

Still drawing this. It's Part of the three pic drawing of the Invaders. You've already seen the Captain America.

Phatman · 05-12-2007, 02:02 PM

Justice41:

I think is the second or third time I've seen you draw Submariner and you completely own this character. Strong piece.

Justice41 · 05-12-2007, 02:22 PM

It's the 2 and a half time. I only did a rough sketch the first time. It's one of my favorite characters. In fact it's one of the first comics I owned. Marvel Comics #1. I got it from the baby sitters husband who's father was in WW2. It was dog eared but still whole. I really really really wish I had it now. The guy gave me a box filled with old 30's and 40's WW2 era comics that his father had.

Mike225 · 05-12-2007, 04:56 PM

Hm...this might be a bad time to mention it, but you may want to reposition the tank or have cracks where his fingers have dug in. With something that heavy, you'd want to find the center of gravity to hoist it over your head. Here, it looks like he's got it closer to the front of the tank, where it could easily fall behind him.

But the figure is excellent!

BKMDog · 05-12-2007, 06:11 PM

^ I agree ^. Beautiful figure, but there's something wonky with the relationship / perspective between Namor and the tank. But, as has been mentioned, that's one great, definitive drawing of Subby, alright.

Justice41 · 05-12-2007, 08:18 PM

Naw guys Finding ref for this tank has been a Pain. I will probably use a newer tank because that old Panzer tank is hard to find ref for.

J. Alexopoulos · 05-13-2007, 04:24 AM

awesome musculature.
What exercises do you use to work out your lats. They stick out so far.

Bye Namor.

Johnny A

Biofungus · 05-13-2007, 04:27 AM

Are you kidding man? I always look like that when I heft tanks, why shouldn't he?

knockedoutpanzer · 05-13-2007, 05:59 AM

bloody hell thats good. Are you working professionally Justice41? If not the publishers should be forming an ordely queue.

Nice ME-262 gettign blasted in the background.

chaosgoat · 05-13-2007, 07:54 AM

DAMN fine work, Justice. Great action and energy.

Scribbly · 05-13-2007, 08:05 AM

Excellent body rendering.
Problems with perspective, composition and message.

Perspective:His hands are not related with the tank position, the whole body must show big tension, the stretched leg should have tension in his toes.
Both arms are twins with the same size, there is not feeling of depth nor sense of weight.

Composition: the two repeated airplanes exploding behind have the same size and position. Is the same plane in two shots or two different planes?

Message: what are you trying to express with this image?
Is Namor strong enough to lift a tank? Can he fly? Why two twin planes are exploding behind him? Is he battling in the ground or in the sea?
Should those planes meant a danger to him? Are these planes explosion affecting him? Are they allies or enemies?
Is he coming down or up?

Seems that you start drawing the figure, you got enthusiastic, and then you start filling in the blanks.
If you did reach that point with the figure with none clue about the tank reference show that you didn't made a previous study of your scene.

The lone figure for itself looks very good.

BEST!

www.savideduardo.com

Justice41 · 05-13-2007, 11:08 AM

The art is one of three pieces that overlap and make up a whole. This is what the initial pic looked like. The cap pic is the secon part and the torches the third. Then I will ovelap elements from each into the other drawings like the Messerschmidts and the Torch's fire trail. The torches are the ones taking out the planes. I've nixed the Torch pics because the suck frankly. I'm redoing them but this was the idea behind the three pics. When you place them together they for a V, for Victory. Heh.

Phatman · 05-13-2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justice41

Naw guys Finding ref for this tank has been a Pain. I will probably use a newer tank because that old Panzer tank is hard to find ref for.

upside down Panzer tank:

..now draw that ,slacker.

Justice41 · 05-13-2007, 03:27 PM

Tanks..................

knockedoutpanzer · 05-13-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phatman

upside down Panzer tank:

..now draw that ,slacker.

wow! a real knocked out panzer...obviously a mark IV with it's 75mm gun. Er, I really need to get out more...

05-12-2007, 02:22 PM	#3
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,369	It's the 2 and a half time. I only did a rough sketch the first time. It's one of my favorite characters. In fact it's one of the first comics I owned. Marvel Comics #1. I got it from the baby sitters husband who's father was in WW2. It was dog eared but still whole. I really really really wish I had it now. The guy gave me a box filled with old 30's and 40's WW2 era comics that his father had. Last edited by Justice41; 05-12-2007 at 02:24 PM.

05-13-2007, 11:08 AM	#12
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,369	The art is one of three pieces that overlap and make up a whole. This is what the initial pic looked like. The cap pic is the secon part and the torches the third. Then I will ovelap elements from each into the other drawings like the Messerschmidts and the Torch's fire trail. The torches are the ones taking out the planes. I've nixed the Torch pics because the suck frankly. I'm redoing them but this was the idea behind the three pics. When you place them together they for a V, for Victory. Heh. Last edited by Justice41; 05-13-2007 at 11:17 AM.

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05-12-2007, 01:17 PM	#1
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,369	The Savage Sub-Mariner. Still drawing this. It's Part of the three pic drawing of the Invaders. You've already seen the Captain America.

05-12-2007, 02:02 PM	#2
Phatman Midi-chlorians are a lie! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 4,443	Justice41: I think is the second or third time I've seen you draw Submariner and you completely own this character. Strong piece.

05-12-2007, 04:56 PM	#4
Mike225 low brow B1Tch Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right in the brainpan squish! Posts: 5,719	Hm...this might be a bad time to mention it, but you may want to reposition the tank or have cracks where his fingers have dug in. With something that heavy, you'd want to find the center of gravity to hoist it over your head. Here, it looks like he's got it closer to the front of the tank, where it could easily fall behind him. But the figure is excellent!

05-12-2007, 06:11 PM	#5
BKMDog Registered Trademark Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,242	^ I agree ^. Beautiful figure, but there's something wonky with the relationship / perspective between Namor and the tank. But, as has been mentioned, that's one great, definitive drawing of Subby, alright.

05-12-2007, 08:18 PM	#6
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,369	Naw guys Finding ref for this tank has been a Pain. I will probably use a newer tank because that old Panzer tank is hard to find ref for.

05-13-2007, 04:24 AM	#7
J. Alexopoulos AKA Beefpipe Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Whitby, Ontario Posts: 229	awesome musculature. What exercises do you use to work out your lats. They stick out so far. Bye Namor. Johnny A

05-13-2007, 04:27 AM	#8
Biofungus Not for your amusement Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Nega-Earth Posts: 22,083	Are you kidding man? I always look like that when I heft tanks, why shouldn't he?

05-13-2007, 05:59 AM	#9
knockedoutpanzer Hails Cthulhu! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: england Posts: 970	bloody hell thats good. Are you working professionally Justice41? If not the publishers should be forming an ordely queue. Nice ME-262 gettign blasted in the background.

05-13-2007, 07:54 AM	#10
chaosgoat Uh-huh... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,441	DAMN fine work, Justice. Great action and energy.

05-13-2007, 08:05 AM	#11
Scribbly Easy Reader Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Amerika Posts: 3,739	Excellent body rendering. Problems with perspective, composition and message. Perspective:His hands are not related with the tank position, the whole body must show big tension, the stretched leg should have tension in his toes. Both arms are twins with the same size, there is not feeling of depth nor sense of weight. Composition: the two repeated airplanes exploding behind have the same size and position. Is the same plane in two shots or two different planes? Message: what are you trying to express with this image? Is Namor strong enough to lift a tank? Can he fly? Why two twin planes are exploding behind him? Is he battling in the ground or in the sea? Should those planes meant a danger to him? Are these planes explosion affecting him? Are they allies or enemies? Is he coming down or up? Seems that you start drawing the figure, you got enthusiastic, and then you start filling in the blanks. If you did reach that point with the figure with none clue about the tank reference show that you didn't made a previous study of your scene. The lone figure for itself looks very good. BEST! www.savideduardo.com

05-13-2007, 03:27 PM	#14
Justice41 Piss Off Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9,369	Tanks..................