World War 3

[Mike225]

Everytime I saw World War III, I thought about the Grant Morrison story in JLA. The one with all the imps from the 5th dimension. I figured it was in JSA #1, cause that's the storyline they got back together.

[Scott Story]

Infinite Crisis and Civil War have changed the playing field. For the publishers to get the big numbers and the ton of crossovers, they now have to have a big event that is super big.

Yes, DC had a big event every year, but now, with the trade paperback market making a sizeable portion of their profit, now they have to do it. Also, now they have these big, name, superstar writers in a way that didn't use to matter. Now these guys are primed to make everything an event. You can't just have a regular comic title anymore--it's got to be New Avengers, or JLA Meltzer style, or whatever.

Will WWIII be any good? Don't know. We are losing something in the economic distortion here, I think. It seems to me that the talent making the books is top level and very bright, but there is a lack of vision on what to do, IMO.

[Ian Ascher]

Originally Posted by Mwynn

Villians United was a mini.

So is this new Suicide Squad book. Plus the name is cooler...

[Ian Ascher]

Reading the full story about WWIII, this is part of 52.

Sounds like it starts around Week 50 and was something they really wanted to touch on in the series but didn't have the room for. You dont need it to enjoy the whole story but it'll add to the experiance.

[Imboden]

There's 16 weeks left before its "One Year Later".

That's gonna be one helluva quick "world war".

[kdmelrose]

Hey, the Anglo-Zanzibar War lasted only about 45 minutes -- and none of those guys had super powers.

[Ian Ascher]

Originally Posted by Imboden

There's 16 weeks left before its "One Year Later".

That's gonna be one helluva quick "world war".

Where superheroes and villains are involved, it wouldn't surprise me if a World War lasted a few hours.

[Lovecraft13]

Well, a World War will need several countries to fight it. So it could breakdown between the USA, the island of Mad Scientists, Black Adam's place, and China.

[Paul Sanderson]

Originally Posted by kdmelrose

"Far too vague," but enough for you to label it as "dopey"?

Well, another event story so soon after two others, which was immediately after another...yep, that sounds dopey to me, not to mention what little we know of this seems rather similar to Civil War. Yes, I'd say that sounds dopey to me.

Originally Posted by Scott Story

Infinite Crisis and Civil War have changed the playing field. For the publishers to get the big numbers and the ton of crossovers, they now have to have a big event that is super big.

Yes, DC had a big event every year, but now, with the trade paperback market making a sizeable portion of their profit, now they have to do it. Also, now they have these big, name, superstar writers in a way that didn't use to matter. Now these guys are primed to make everything an event. You can't just have a regular comic title anymore--it's got to be New Avengers, or JLA Meltzer style, or whatever.

Will WWIII be any good? Don't know. We are losing something in the economic distortion here, I think. It seems to me that the talent making the books is top level and very bright, but there is a lack of vision on what to do, IMO.

Yeah, but you're making it sound like event storylines like Infinite Crisis and Civil War are new, and they're not, both Marvel and DC have been doing them for 20 years now. Hell, DC used to do one of these babies per year in the 80s/90s (Crisis on Infinite Earths, Legends [which is pretty much DC's Civil War in a way], Millenium, Invasion etc., while Marvel had the two Secret Wars storylines), so the mega crossover is nothing new. After 20 years, these guys should have worked out what they're doing by now. And having too many mega crossovers one after the other just vitiates from the impact and interest these storylines can engender.

[Scott Story]

I agree, and there's no doubt this is not new. What I think changed it is the economic impact. They turned the storylines up a notch, like with Civil War, and the event became hyper-profitable. So much so that retailer started squeeling when issues are late, and the fans made a ruckus. Now, how profitable is up for debate, as seen on LITG recently, but it still looks like CW has averages about 250,000 copies each in the direct market, and raised the sales of tie in books significantly.

So, by my figuring, there's a new watermark that big events have to achieve--they have to be equally profitable. This means actually getting news coverage for the editors, writeups in non-comic venues, the whole 9 yards.

[Ian Ascher]

Originally Posted by Paul Sanderson

Well, another event story so soon after two others, which was immediately after another...yep, that sounds dopey to me, not to mention what little we know of this seems rather similar to Civil War. Yes, I'd say that sounds dopey to me.

Did you even read the article? It tells you everything you need to know about this story. And how can you call an extra four issues tacked onto the end of 52 another "event story"? There are no crossover issues, no double sized issues, and it's not going to stretch out over six months (ten if you're late on everything).

It's one week, four issues. The whole thing won't even cost me $8.00 after my stores pull service discount.

[Awesomus Prime]

Originally Posted by Paul Sanderson

Well, another event story so soon after two others, which was immediately after another...yep, that sounds dopey to me, not to mention what little we know of this seems rather similar to Civil War. Yes, I'd say that sounds dopey to me.



Yeah, but you're making it sound like event storylines like Infinite Crisis and Civil War are new, and they're not, both Marvel and DC have been doing them for 20 years now. Hell, DC used to do one of these babies per year in the 80s/90s (Crisis on Infinite Earths, Legends [which is pretty much DC's Civil War in a way], Millenium, Invasion etc., while Marvel had the two Secret Wars storylines), so the mega crossover is nothing new. After 20 years, these guys should have worked out what they're doing by now. And having too many mega crossovers one after the other just vitiates from the impact and interest these storylines can engender.

You're right Paul, er Frank... whatever. I mean these companies have been doing mega crossovers for years. You'd think they could think of something other than a mega crossover to do. I mean every mega crossover has the same story and is unoriginal right? You showed us that with all your evidence, like the fact that their both mega-crossovers, and there are more than one of them, and the fact that you say their unoriginal and dumb...

Wait that's not evide... nevermind. You're right. I mean they should just stop publishing books every month because they've been publishing books every month since like the 30's. How unoriginal is that! And Paper, you think these guys could have enough sense to come up with something more creative than paper.

Don't even get me started on coloured and black inks...


*cough*moron

[Paul Sanderson]

Look, I don't mind the mega crossover, but not several one after the other. That's just plain stupid, and diminshes whatever impact such a storyline may have had. Too much of a good thing, you know?

*cough* and you call me a moron, learn to read my above posts properly next time!

[Mwynn]

I'll take good stories anyway I can get them, at this moment in time DC is doing good stuff. Keep the momentum going I say.

[Moonrider]

Does this have anything to do with The New Gods?