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Old 07-07-2011, 01:03 AM   #1
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Balloon Slanting by Clem Robins

Being that Clem can't login to this forum for some unknown reason, he's asked me to post the following for him.

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when the lettering in a balloon is italic, try skewing your balloon a bit to reflect the slant of the lettering. it doesn't take much.

here's an example. here the balloon is unadjusted:




and here it is slightly skewed:




i think it looks neat.

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Old 07-07-2011, 01:35 AM   #2
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Aren't you a mod now? Nothing you can do on your end?

Cool trick, btw.
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That's pretty great. Hats off to Clem for making things look more natural (as usual!).

This is an aside... but some years back, I was studying the lettering in a comic I was reading, convinced that it must have been done by hand. I kept comparing glyphs, and not until I had compared enough of them did I realize that it was, in fact, a font. It was just an extremely comprehensive one, with more alternates than I'd ever seen.

I didn't know who the letterer was.

Flash-forward a little while, and upon merely reading Clem's posts explaining his process -- I realized the font was his. THAT's how cool Clem is. We miss ya, big guy (Even those of us who never post)!
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:20 PM   #4
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Flash-forward a little while, and upon merely reading Clem's posts explaining his process -- I realized the font was his. THAT's how cool Clem is. We miss ya, big guy (Even those of us who never post)!
thank you, Adam. this couldn't have been a real long time ago. i've only gone ligature-crazy for the last two or three years. Nate walked me through the procedure.

i tried another way of doing it back in 2007, with a program which randomly selected alternate characters from a few dozen versions of each letter of the alphabet. it worked, but it was ugly as sin.

ligatures are a better solution. if you have enough of them, it becomes virtually impossible for the same version of a character to ever appear in the same speech.

i didn't think anybody noticed this stuff. it's gratifying to see that you noticed it.
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Old 07-07-2011, 10:26 AM   #5
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Aren't you a mod now? Nothing you can do on your end?
Yes I am but I don't see any mod settings that allow me to do things like that.

Clem...That's a great little trick.
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:39 AM   #6
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anyone checked with Ed about this?
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Old 07-07-2011, 01:16 PM   #8
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back in the club

shockingly enough, i've been re-admitted to our little tree house.

thanks, Payton and Jamal and everybody.
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shockingly enough, i've been re-admitted to our little tree house.
Yaay!

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yeah, that skewed balloon shape just seems to fit strikingly italicized text better. I do that all the time.

That one of your fonts, Clem? I'll have to do something like that. Reminds me of Tom O's crazy shout lettering.

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That one of your fonts, Clem? I'll have to do something like that. Reminds me of Tom O's crazy shout lettering.
Speed reading that post, I found myself thinking "Who's Tom O'Crazy, and what's so special about his shout lettering?"

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when the lettering in a balloon is italic, try skewing your balloon a bit to reflect the slant of the lettering. it doesn't take much.
great tip. so sensible that i'm kicking myself for not already doing this.
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What a great idea, Clem.

Reminds me of my early samples--um, way back when the earth's crust was still cooling.

I would subtley "tilt" my balloons in the direction of the speaking character to direct the reader's eye.

I was trying to make new rules--long before I had learned them well. A bad mistake.

A few days later, I was up at the DC offices showing the stuff to Todd.

He asked about the tilting and we talked about it--I gave up that idea the same moment.

What's different about yours, though, is it fits the skew of the letters--I had no skew to my letters back then.

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