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Old 06-15-2012, 04:58 PM   #16
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What's the problem with doing this:



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Well, I should probably have made a better diagram. XD Heh

In this example, however, isn't interrupting the eye line a no-no?

Or, as I suspect, are some no-nos acceptable to prevent WORSE no-nos?
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:57 AM   #17
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In this example, however, isn't interrupting the eye line a no-no?

Or, as I suspect, are some no-nos acceptable to prevent WORSE no-nos?
Of all the 'rules' of lettering, breaking the eyeline is the one I probably care least about. (Other letterers are available, your statutory rights are not affected.)

But, yes, in my mind there is most definitely a hierarchy for these things: tangents, crossed tails, balloons on faces are at the top of the list. I'm OK with the balloon tail pointing only vaguely at the bottom half of the speaker's face and entirely unconcerned if the layout forces me to break the eyeline.

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Old 06-17-2012, 11:35 AM   #18
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Well said, Jim.

I've read up on the 'rules' of lettering quite a bit, and I've never seen anything yet about breaking the eyeline.
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Old 06-17-2012, 11:58 AM   #19
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I've read up on the 'rules' of lettering quite a bit, and I've never seen anything yet about breaking the eyeline.
Can't find a link to it right now, but there's definitely something about it in one of the tutorials on the Comicraft site. It's one of those things where -- in ideal world -- I'll try not to do it, but I won't create an ugly or hard-to-read arrangement of balloons to avoid blocking the characters' eyelines.

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Old 06-17-2012, 01:34 PM   #20
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Some editors care more about this than others, but I agree, it's a low priority that I consider when I have the room, ignore when I don't.
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:46 PM   #21
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The consensus is in line with my own instincts. In terms of visual information, character eye contact doesn't mean much so long as the balloons don't fill every scintilla of space between them, effectively cutting the panel in two.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:02 PM   #22
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Can't find a link to it right now, but there's definitely something about it in one of the tutorials on the Comicraft site.
Oh the irony! The one place online I hadn't looked - how embarrassing! Aheh!

Well, just proves that every day's a school day. Interesting stuff.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:32 AM   #23
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It's not like the balloons actually exist for the characters.
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Old 07-01-2012, 12:27 PM   #24
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Hi! Great post! I learned a lot in this forum - I am an amateur (only yesterday I heard of tangents), of course, but I do not like small leading a and I use a lot of short tails. I should change?

Below is a comic mine as example.

(using google translate)

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Old 07-08-2012, 02:34 AM   #25
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It's funny this came up--I was wondering about the eye-contact issue only a few weeks ago....not sure if the panels were unusually cramped or what [not even sure what the job was, now]. It's a concern, certainly, but in my jobs, it doesn't crop up too often. As I was composing the lettering to the panels, it was pretty clear--I didn't have much wiggle room. In that case, eyeline be damned!

Todd's so right--It's low priority. Work around it if you can, but no biggie if you can't.

If they don't like it--they can rewrite--and I can charge them $ to fix it.

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:13 AM   #26
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That's interesting. I was also not familiar with the eyeline rule, but I think it's intuitive to avoid it when possible.
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