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Old 01-22-2015, 10:34 PM   #1
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PATREON: List of Digital Webbing Users Who Are On Patreon

If you don't mind sharing, and if you have a Patreon account set up, I would be interested in browsing your Patreon page. I know that there are several individuals who use this forum, who have Patreon accounts. There just didn't seem to be a centralized list of Patreon creators from this site.

If you could, just post a link to your Patreon page, and if you like, sum up why your page is the one to support.
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Old 01-23-2015, 07:59 AM   #2
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Patreon to support the creation of my webcomic, Shiver Bureau. Also will have bonus content like b/w version of the pages, pdfs, drawing vids.

Do you have a patreon page or looking for inspiration for a future page?
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Do you have a patreon page or looking for inspiration for a future page?
Just pondering becoming a supporter. I already would have, but I dislike the notion of effectively being a subscriber, as in monthly, as opposed to supporting when I want to, more as a recurring supporter. Patreon seems to adopt a one-size-fits-all approach.

Even still, I like the core concept.
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:35 AM   #4
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Yea, Patreon is great and doing really well. There is room for improvement. It would be great to be able to do a 1 time support option. recurring payments freaks me out a little bit as well.

Jason Brubaker offers up a really good list of patreon rewards if you'd like to test the water. https://www.patreon.com/jasonbrubaker
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If you can keep up with the daily content grind you will do alright for yourself.

I've been on Patreon since the beginning and for various reasons haven't had much luck (100% my own fault.) Supporting my patreon page is a per content update (most are monthly.)

https://www.patreon.com/fisticuffswriting

Ray Dillon has done alright for himself and he's just started. https://www.patreon.com/RayDillon
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Supporting my patreon page is a per content update (most are monthly.)
Your Patreon page says "per word update." The way that it is worded might scare some potential supporters away. Ray Dillion's Patreon page, by comparison, says "per month."

They create very different impressions.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:52 AM   #7
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Your Patreon pages says "per word update." The way that it is worded might scare some potential supporters away. Ray Dillion's Patreon page, by comparison, says "per month."

They create very different impressions.
you're right. haven't thought of that... it should be per content.

the wording is very tricky
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Your Patreon pages says "per word update." The way that it is worded might scare some potential supporters away. Ray Dillion's Patreon page, by comparison, says "per month."

They create very different impressions.
Ray's and most Patreon creators do the monthly thing. guys that can keep up with the daily content crunch. creators like myself who are way more sporadic go with the content as it happens thing.
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creators like myself who are way more sporadic go with the content as it happens thing.
Understood. Here's the issue, for me - what if a creator decides to create multiple content updates, within a month? The supporters' cards would get charged multiple times, right?

Is there a way for supporters to limit to a maximum number of pay outs in support, within a given period of time, such as on a per month basis?

Also, can a creator change the terms of their update schemes? If so, other than canceling one's status as a supporter, what mechanisms or controls are in place to preclude creators from fleecing supporters, if they wanted to?

I grasp that it isn't in the long term interest of an artist or other creator to fleece anyone, either money-wise or in terms of simply growing a following.

But, taking Murphy's Law into account, shouldn't supporters or potential supporters weigh such questions and prospects?

Additionally, since I favor more of a one-time or on an as-desired approach to supporting creators, rather than a locked-in approach, what are your thoughts, Paul, on supporters who pledge to support, and then cancel after a month or two? On the one hand, creators are likely thankful for any degree of support. On the other hand, it seems to me that this approach could generate regret. I really don't understand why they don't simply offer an option to do a straight forward one time pledge, and maybe even include a reminder of some kind, asking if the supporter would like to renew their pledge for the next month - or, increase or decrease it.

I know that supporters can always simply change their level of pledge, at any time. But, people being people, they tend to get busy, and simply forget about things charged on a monthly basis. It's one of the reasons that I don't take advantage of a lot of different offers that I encounter. Patreon's approach reminds me of that. It generates a sense of hesitancy within me to participate.
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Understood. Here's the issue, for me - what if a creator decides to create multiple content updates, within a month? The supporters' cards would get charged multiple times, right?

Is there a way for supporters to limit to a maximum number of pay outs in support, within a given period of time, such as on a per month basis?

Also, can a creator change the terms of their update schemes? If so, other than canceling one's status as a supporter, what mechanisms or controls are in place to preclude creators from fleecing supporters, if they wanted to?

I grasp that it isn't in the long term interest of an artist or other creator to fleece anyone, either money-wise or in terms of simply growing a following.

But, taking Murphy's Law into account, shouldn't supporters or potential supporters weigh such questions and prospects?

Additionally, since I favor more of a one-time or on an as-desired approach to supporting creators, rather than a locked-in approach, what are your thoughts, Paul, on supporters who pledge to support, and then cancel after a month or two? On the one hand, creators are likely thankful for any degree of support. On the other hand, it seems to me that this approach could generate regret. I really don't understand why they don't simply offer an option to do a straight forward one time pledge, and maybe even include a reminder of some kind, asking if the supporter would like to renew their pledge for the next month - or, increase or decrease it.

I know that supporters can always simply change their level of pledge, at any time. But, people being people, they tend to get busy, and simply forget about things charged on a monthly basis. It's one of the reasons that I don't take advantage of a lot of different offers that I encounter. Patreon's approach reminds me of that. It generates a sense of hesitancy within me to participate.
I'll address what I think your main point is... quoted from Patreon...

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If you have chosen to be supported "per creation" we give all of your Patrons the option to set a monthly max so that they never go over their budget. A monthly max is simply a maximum amount a Patron can cap their pledge at. This protects Patrons from ever being charged more than they are willing to spend.
It's a pain in the balls to give a "supporting" pledge and then canceling after you're charged the first of the month. It would be nice if there was that one time payment option.
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Can't say that I've ever had that Patreon problem and I support several artists via Patreon.
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yeah. per creation is the ethical way to do it. As stated, you can set a max to ensure no silly spam uploading.


Per month is kindof bullshit. This is where the fund my life, and no obligation to actually upload anything on a timely basis comes in.
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my patreon

I JUST launched one for Horror, Mystery 7 DAYS OF DEATH!

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I actually have a second Patreon now, one specifically for my podcast, Zone 4, which launched in 2009.

http://www.patreon.com/zone4podcast
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Still getting responses from Patreon. They say that it happens, sometimes. They also told me that they have a PayPal option, which I was able to utilize.
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