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Lovecraft13
05-08-2006, 11:12 PM
Here is a newer thread for Microsoft news.
Lovecraft13
05-08-2006, 11:39 PM
Microsoft this morning posted an article on the official Xbox site detailing how the HD-DVD peripheral is expected to function. Important details such as a price and date aren't included, but a lot of anti-BluRay Disc propaganda, certainly is.
Xbox 360 ushered in the era of high-definition gaming by standardizing high-definition resolutions and 16x9 widescreen support for every game (Xbox Live Arcade included) on the system. What's more, Xbox 360, while powerful on its own, is also a foundation from which new technology and accessories can be added. Chief among these is the recently announced HD DVD add-on.
This much anticipated accessory carries with it an extension of the HD Era that Xbox 360 offers, and provides the most visually stunning movie watching experience available.
Understanding HD DVD:
Understanding just what HD DVD offers and how it relates to Xbox 360 is the key to appreciating the kind of quantum leap forward the add-on provides. To most consumers, HD DVD is probably a new phrase, but it's simple to decipher. The HD is high definition and DVDs are those hundreds of millions of shiny discs sold worldwide.
"The major difference is going to be price, and all the leading indicators point to HD DVD winning."
In fact, HD DVD is the official next-generation optical format from the same international organization, the DVD Forum, that created the ubiquitous DVD format used for digitally storing movies, games, PC data, and more. That also means the new HD DVD players will also play back all of your current DVDs.
To be fair, there's a push from Sony to create an alternate HD format called Blu-ray. So now's a good time to examine why Microsoft, and many other industry leaders, believe HD DVD is the clear winner for consumers.
Superior Quality:
The current DVD format we've come to know and love provides a 480 progressive scan image, and while impressive, it simply doesn't match up to the advanced capabilities of high-definition resolutions HDTVs. HD DVD delivers a high-fidelity video and audio experience that far exceeds today's DVD, with video resolutions of up to six times the resolution of current DVDs and superior digital multi-channel, lossless surround sound effects.
When comparing the two formats, there is no difference in the video support with both offering 720p, 1080i and 1080p HD resolutions, leaving it to CE and PC manufacturers to determine which flavors they support based upon costs and consumer preferences.
"Both sides are laying their cards on the table, and the word is getting out that HD DVD is the best value."
This new accessory will connect to the Xbox 360 console with a USB cable, enabling it to harness the power of the Xbox 360 console for the HD video outputs and digital surround sound. As an accessory, it becomes another shining example of the flexibility of Xbox 360 designed into the console in order to grow and add new features. It's also just one of several new accessories being announced at E3.
"There aren't any Blu-ray players available to test, but if you compare the requirements on paper it's going to be a wash in terms of video quality," said Albert Penello, Director of Global Marketing at Xbox. "At Microsoft, we've known that for some time. But the major difference is going to be price, and all the leading indicators point to HD DVD winning."
Pricing:
With HD DVD, it is now becoming evident that the entire ecosystem—from players, drives, the discs, and manufacturing—is more economical than Blu-ray. Consumers and retailers can now see the immediate price gulf between HD DVD players and their upcoming competition. If you can find one of the new Toshiba HD DVD players (retailers nationwide sold out when they launched in April) they sell for as little as $499, whereas the expected starting price of Blu-ray players starts at $1,000 and rises rapidly after that.
HD DVD also offers new "twin discs" that have an HD DVD version and a DVD version on the same disc. This gives consumers an easy and affordable way to build their movie collection that will take full advantage of every TV in the house—whether it's the HDTV and new HD DVD player in the living room, or standard def TV and DVD player in another room, car, or even PCs and laptops.
Blu-ray's option is to require consumers to buy two discs at full price, an HD version and the standard DVD version separately.
Consumer Advantage:
Outside of consumer prices, HD DVD is cheaper for manufacturers to upgrade their facilities to produce HD DVD discs and there are lower licensing fees associated with HD DVD interactivity—both key cost advantages. Ultimately, all of these advantages will lead to lower prices for consumers who choose HD DVD.
"Before January's CES trade show and before price announcements starting to come out, a lot of press and analysts were ready to declare HD DVD as DOA," commented Penello. "But we had really good insights into how these two matched up and we kept learning about technical problems with Blu-ray. Now that both sides are laying their cards on the table, the word is getting out that HD DVD is the best value. Consumers are voting by buying HD DVD players and movies. And since then, the industry momentum we've seen has been behind HD DVD."
Since January, CE and PC leaders like LG, Acer, Fujitsu (and Fujitsu-Siemens) have decided to support HD DVD in their products, while Sony, Samsung, and Pioneer separately delayed releasing their consumer Blu-ray players. (The first Blu-ray player is reportedly now slated for late June.) In addition, Sony delayed its PS3 game console launch and publicly blamed the problem on Blu-ray issues.
So what's the suggested price for the Xbox 360 HD DVD player? "Stay tuned. We decided to save that good news for another day, but we're clearly out to make this an affordable option for Xbox 360 owners," said Penello.
The last question is around studio support. HD DVD is supported by leading Hollywood and international studios including Paramount, Warner Brothers, Universal, Studio Canal, and more. It's expected there will be 150-200 HD DVD titles by the end of year.
"The momentum is with HD DVD. Eventually, we feel all the studios will support HD DVD, perhaps not exclusively. But the studios are too savvy to leave money on the table," said Penello.
link (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/events/e32006/articles/20060507-hddvdexplained.htm)
Lovecraft13
05-08-2006, 11:41 PM
Already a critical and commercial smash on the PC, F.E.A.R. will bring a new level of FPS game play to Xbox 360 with brand new single player content designed to immerse the player deeper in the world of the F.E.A.R. team, as well as brand new multiplayer content created to fully utilize Xbox Live.
Developed by Day 1 Studios in conjunction with Monolith Productions, F.E.A.R. is an intense first person close-quarters combat experience with rich atmosphere and an engaging, paranormal horror storyline.
Lovecraft13
05-09-2006, 03:56 PM
All of the E3 360 trailers are available for free via Xbox Live.
Lovecraft13
05-09-2006, 03:57 PM
LOS ANGELES--It's only Monday of the E3 week, but there have already been plenty of newsworthy events. Sony held its annual pre-E3 conference this afternoon, and two vital pieces of information were divulged. The PlayStation 3 will make its debut on November 11 in Japan, and will also be released in North America, Europe, and Oceania on November 17. The system will come in two iterations: the $499 model that comes with a 20GB hard drive and a $599 model that comes with a 60GB hard drive.
This year's E3 has been hyped as a battle between "The Big Three," but much of the focus has been on the war between Sony and Microsoft, who many believe are competing for the same audience.
Shortly after the Sony conference, GameSpot News spoke with Shane Kim, general manager of Microsoft Game Studios, to get his company's impressions of its rival's media event.
Kim's overall consensus of the event was fairly unimpressed. "There wasn't much news. We didn't see anything really new or innovative," he said. "There's a pretty significant price differential between the two." Currently, the premium Xbox 360 pack, which comes with a 20GB hard drive, is $399, versus Sony's $599 60GB hard drive system.
There was a lot of talk about Microsoft's month-long global launch, which many didn't deem as "successful." Sony will be attempting an even harder task, hitting three major markets in less than a week.
"We know how difficult a global launch is," Kim said. Kim pointed out how Sony will need to launch with an all-new online functionality, and how Microsoft has been working with Xbox Live for more than five years. "There wasn't much talk about their online strategy," he said, reflecting on the conference. "It's going to be difficult for them."
As for the PS3's new motion-sensitive controller? "We tried that five or six years ago with the Freestyle Pro," he said. "It worked well for a few games, but it wasn't a general purpose controller. It seems as though they were taking a page from Nintendo's book [in reference to the Wii's controller], but Nintendo is more innovative."
As for Nintendo, which holds its press conference tomorrow morning, Kim believes that "their strategy and focus marries well into their history. They're looking more at a niche group."
When asked about Microsoft's pre-E3 press conference, Kim wouldn't reveal any secrets, but was giddy with excitement. "You won't want to miss it," he warned.
Lovecraft13
06-02-2006, 02:49 PM
Earlier this week, many Xbox 360 owners were concerned to hear Peter Moore downplaying the company's commitment to making the system backwardly compatible with more original Xbox titles.
"Nobody is concerned anymore about backward compatibility," Moore said in a Kikizo interview, adding, "More are coming...but at some point you just go 'there's enough,' or 'let's move on.'"
Now a posting on the blog of Microsoft Games' global marketing team is putting a happier face on Moore's comments and giving an update on the backward-compatibility team's progress. According to the post from team member John Porcaro, the team is testing another update for release in the next few weeks, and "it looks like they're hoping to add at least a dozen titles."
"But rest assured, we're not done yet," Porcaro continues. "We know for a fact that there are lots [emphasis theirs] of people who continue to care about backwards compatibility, including the 'Emulation Ninjas' who are working full time on the updates. And those of us posting on this blog. And, of course, many of you."
-gamespot
Lovecraft13
06-03-2006, 12:11 PM
Here is a pic of the HD-DVD add-on for the 360:
Calloway
06-03-2006, 01:41 PM
LOS ANGELES--It's only Monday of the E3 week, but there have already been plenty of newsworthy events. Sony held its annual pre-E3 conference this afternoon, and two vital pieces of information were divulged. The PlayStation 3 will make its debut on November 11 in Japan, and will also be released in North America, Europe, and Oceania on November 17. The system will come in two iterations: the $499 model that comes with a 20GB hard drive and a $599 model that comes with a 60GB hard drive.
This year's E3 has been hyped as a battle between "The Big Three," but much of the focus has been on the war between Sony and Microsoft, who many believe are competing for the same audience.
Shortly after the Sony conference, GameSpot News spoke with Shane Kim, general manager of Microsoft Game Studios, to get his company's impressions of its rival's media event.
Kim's overall consensus of the event was fairly unimpressed. "There wasn't much news. We didn't see anything really new or innovative," he said. "There's a pretty significant price differential between the two." Currently, the premium Xbox 360 pack, which comes with a 20GB hard drive, is $399, versus Sony's $599 60GB hard drive system.
There was a lot of talk about Microsoft's month-long global launch, which many didn't deem as "successful." Sony will be attempting an even harder task, hitting three major markets in less than a week.
"We know how difficult a global launch is," Kim said. Kim pointed out how Sony will need to launch with an all-new online functionality, and how Microsoft has been working with Xbox Live for more than five years. "There wasn't much talk about their online strategy," he said, reflecting on the conference. "It's going to be difficult for them."
As for the PS3's new motion-sensitive controller? "We tried that five or six years ago with the Freestyle Pro," he said. "It worked well for a few games, but it wasn't a general purpose controller. It seems as though they were taking a page from Nintendo's book [in reference to the Wii's controller], but Nintendo is more innovative."
As for Nintendo, which holds its press conference tomorrow morning, Kim believes that "their strategy and focus marries well into their history. They're looking more at a niche group."
When asked about Microsoft's pre-E3 press conference, Kim wouldn't reveal any secrets, but was giddy with excitement. "You won't want to miss it," he warned.
they neglect to mention that the new media format to take over dvd will be blu ray and the ps3 will be the cheapest blu ray player in the market by hundreds of dollars. Still too many dollars for me.
LordDianWei
06-08-2006, 07:17 PM
nobody knows if blu ray will take over....
Calloway
06-08-2006, 08:11 PM
Sony's always led the way in media and so far it's the favorite. It's a good bet it will.
Mwynn
06-08-2006, 08:16 PM
What companies are backing Hd dvd?
Calloway
06-08-2006, 08:20 PM
Was it phillips? Either way , obviously blu ray is superior. I'm 100 percent sure that's the new format. Sony ushered in the cassette, cd and dvd.
Mwynn
06-08-2006, 08:22 PM
* Blu-ray Disc (Sony, Disney, Apple, and more / Blu-ray Disc Association) and
* HD DVD (Toshiba, Intel, Microsoft, and more / DVD Forum)
Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is responsible for establishing format standards and promoting and further developing business opportunities for Blu-ray Disc. The BDA succeeds the Blu-ray Disc Founders (BDF), and was formed on October 4, 2004. The BDA has more than 90 members.
Its board of directors consists of:
* Apple Computer
* Dell
* Hewlett Packard
* Hitachi
* LG Electronics
* Mitsubishi Electric
* Panasonic (Matsushita Electric)
* Pioneer Corporation
* Royal Philips Electronics
* Samsung Electronics
* Sharp Corporation
* Sony Corporation
* TDK Corporation
* Thomson
* Twentieth Century Fox
* Walt Disney Pictures
* Warner Home Video Inc.
Calloway
06-08-2006, 08:23 PM
yeah...blu ray it is.
Mwynn
06-08-2006, 08:25 PM
Just Sony and Disney would have been enough. Blue Ray is back by all the major players.
Toyandgadgetguy
06-08-2006, 08:42 PM
sigh... another VHS/Betamax war. Blu-ray will have the content... HD-DVD has the catchy name that everyone's going to want to try and sell, but won't.
Calloway
06-08-2006, 09:12 PM
no, it's another dvd/divx war and we all know who won that.
Bishop
07-05-2006, 10:57 AM
no, it's another dvd/divx war and we all know who won that.
I chuckled the other day thinking along the same lines. Circuit City promoted DivX unabashedly and then looked really stupid when it went bust. I chuckled when I noticed they are now heavily promoting Blu-Ray. I think it is a good medium, but I don't think the public is ready for a new standard yet. There is still a lot of life left in plain ol' dvd's.
Calloway
07-05-2006, 02:43 PM
well, they'll have no choice...hd dvd or blu ray...be funny if it's both.
Bishop
07-05-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't think regular dvd's will be going away anytime soon.
Calloway
07-06-2006, 12:04 AM
They said that about vhs...hardly anything comes out on vhs and it's been less then 9 years since dvd came. Companies are forcing the changes on us now.
Toyandgadgetguy
07-06-2006, 01:02 AM
They said that about vhs...hardly anything comes out on vhs and it's been less then 9 years since dvd came. Companies are forcing the changes on us now.
9 years is quite a while, I'd say. Transition from VHS to DVD was a pretty natural transition, I'd say... It took Blockbuster a few years to transition...
I wouldn't exactly call that 'forced' or overnight. Nearly a decade for a transition is about right. 8-track to cassette took about as long. Thankfully, nobody had the internet back then to voice their opinion on it. :thumbs:
Calloway
07-06-2006, 02:02 AM
well 6 years if you want to get down to brass tacks. About 2003 is when best buy started crashing the vhs section and smaller hit films stopped being released on vhs. To me , 6 years or even 9, doesn't seem long. Records and tapes to cd took about 15 and closer to 20 for full assimilation. New tech is rapid paced.
Bishop
07-07-2006, 09:13 AM
The thing is that the leap in technology between DVD and Blu-Ray or HD-DVD is not as drastic as the leap was from VHS to DVD, at least not that I have seen. I think the public perception will be that they don't want to pay so much for such a small improvement. Sony and whoever can try to force the conversion, but I don't think they will be successful until they can prove that the change is worthwhile. I mean, all broadcast and televisions were supposed to be HD compliant by a few years ago, but no one has been able to convince the public (and many broadcaster) that they need to upgrade to the technology, so we are just now starting to see any real movement towards that technology.
Mwynn
07-07-2006, 09:18 AM
I mean, all broadcast and televisions were supposed to be HD compliant by a few years ago, but no one has been able to convince the public (and many broadcaster) that they need to upgrade to the technology, so we are just now starting to see any real movement towards that technology.
I belive the deadline is 2008 for the signals to change.
Toyandgadgetguy
07-07-2006, 09:56 AM
well 6 years if you want to get down to brass tacks. About 2003 is when best buy started crashing the vhs section and smaller hit films stopped being released on vhs. To me , 6 years or even 9, doesn't seem long. Records and tapes to cd took about 15 and closer to 20 for full assimilation. New tech is rapid paced.
I think that your years are more a matter of perspective. The VHS VCR (for general public use... because the original was created nearly 10 years before, but wasn't something that Mr. and Mrs. John Smith could purchase at J.C.Penny's) was created in the late 70's. It took the American buying public by storm in the 80's. It wasn't till the 90's that DVD officially surpassed VHS in popularity. There's actually an official date when sales of DVD's outranked the sales of VCR tapes somewhere in the early 90's. Also, there were a few other technologies that have been tried... yet not taken hold of, in the midst of it all... only some of which has taken a strong enough hold. Mini-disk and flash memory being two examples. Mini-disk tried pretty hard for about 2 or 3 years... and has since fallen back to nearly non-existant. Everyone knows what an i-pod is. Technology is moving at a faster pace all the time. If we have the ability to have newer tech... should we just sit on it and wait till the general public is 'ready' to receive it? Find what you like and stick with it. You have a DVD player, I'd assume... and probably have had one for no less than 5 years... enjoy it for another couple. The HD (and blu-ray) DVD's will be waiting for you when you get there. You'll also be purchasing them after they've worked out the bugs, and made sure that their systems are properly backwards compatable. It's going to take at least a year, or maybe two or three to get a majority of the public to switch over... take your time, and enjoy the ride. People have TV's capable of reproducing HD images... why not give them the fuel to do so?
Toyandgadgetguy
07-07-2006, 09:59 AM
I belive the deadline is 2008 for the signals to change.
You are correct, sir. That is the current deadline.
Toyandgadgetguy
07-07-2006, 10:06 AM
I mean, all broadcast and televisions were supposed to be HD compliant by a few years ago, but no one has been able to convince the public (and many broadcaster) that they need to upgrade to the technology, so we are just now starting to see any real movement towards that technology.
People are upgrading en masse. The problem that I hear about most from the general public (multiple times, daily) is the lack of content in HD. Many didn't want to spend the extra money on a TV for so few HD channels.
The problem with the broadcasters isn't about seeing the need... it's about the costs. All new studios, cameras, broadcast antenna and uplinks... it's costly... so costly, in fact, that it's going to shut down many of your smaller stations, and you will see the birth of secondary stations that will charge the primary stations a fee to 'electronically upconvert' their analog signals to meet the HD mandate requirements... without them having to switch over all their equipment. The wildly successful stations will be the ones to offer everything in 1080i (and soonafter, 1080p!), native. They'll be the one (like PBS, and DiscoveryHD now) that have the digital studios, broacast arrays and cameras. Like everything... it boils down to everyone's beloved common denominator... money.
Bishop
07-07-2006, 01:01 PM
... it boils down to everyone's beloved common denominator... money.
Exactly, and that goes for the studios and the public. Blu-Ray is just too expensive for the masses to even consider when they can get a good DVD player for under $150. I'm sure over time the prices will come down as they always do, but, like I said before, I just don't see enough of a leap in quality between DVD and Blu-Ray at this point to even consider making the purchase.
Bishop
07-07-2006, 01:24 PM
I went and did some more reading on the whole Blu-Ray thing... I didn't realize that most blu ray devices will most likely be backwards compatible to current dvd's and cd's. This makes it a much more palatable choice in my mind. That way I don't have to replace all of my DVD's. I still think it is going to be too expensive to see a mass migration real soon, but given the backwards compat it may catch on sooner than I was initially thinking.
compton
07-09-2006, 04:18 AM
It was the same with DVD's when they came out. I remember when only the richest familys had DVD players. and now I haven't owned a VHS player in almost 5 years. hell at one time counting the computer,ps2 and Xbox I had 4 DVD players
chrisjohnwagner
08-03-2006, 11:59 AM
I don't know if it matters but Sony has never been right in these matters. History tells us they backed beta and shunned VHS way back in the day.
Calloway
08-03-2006, 02:41 PM
bzzt, wrong...they have been right. Cd and dvd for one.
chrisjohnwagner
08-07-2006, 11:30 AM
bzzt, wrong...they have been right. Cd and dvd for one.
I don't know if they changed the way we count but I think that is two not one.
I maybe wrong but when cds and dvds came out they were the only choice. I am refering to a situation when two competing comprable formats are realeased somewhat close together.
have a great day
Chris
Deadfish07
08-07-2006, 12:39 PM
Before DVDs there was Laserdisc. The two main problems with it was they were huge and some movies you had to flip halfway (like the special edition of T2). DVDs came in a quickly took over that market.
I have a feeling blue-ray will take off. I've always trusted Sony products (as long as it has a good replacement plan, some of the product are a little fragile). The only failure Sony has had recently is the Mini-Disc. The iPod crushed those.
Mr.Musgrave
08-07-2006, 01:57 PM
The only failure Sony has had recently is the Mini-Disc...
and Beta and Digital 8 and MMCD and Memory Stick and DVD+R and MicroMV and UMD and SACD.
I expect Blu-Ray to fail just like every other sony format but I also think HD is over-estimating itself as well.
Calloway
08-07-2006, 02:34 PM
eh, matter of perspective. Beta is actually the number one choice for professional video formats (digi beta now). Beta never died, it just moved up.
dvd +r still sells.
UMD works for the psp, but then againt thats the format for a game system.
GIGAFATTIMON
08-07-2006, 10:33 PM
Blu-ray is not a Sony format
Calloway
08-08-2006, 01:40 AM
http://www.georgiasouthern.edu/~mprice9/
It was created by sony, but as with cds, dvds, and laser discs it's supported by many others.
chrisjohnwagner
08-10-2006, 12:42 PM
Does anyone find it interesting that all the recent post are primarily sony related on a x box 360 thread?
Calloway
08-10-2006, 02:41 PM
not really..your new here...that's how things work...you'll find xbox stuff on the sony thread and anti sony and xbox on the nintendo thread.
Mr.Musgrave
08-10-2006, 02:47 PM
Conversations trail around when things are intertwined.
That sounded like a fortune cookie or something. I need more coffee.
Mwynn
08-10-2006, 02:56 PM
Conversations trail around when things are intertwined.
That sounded like a fortune cookie or something. I need more coffee.
What are todays lucky numbers?
Nitecrawlah2
08-13-2006, 05:00 PM
What are todays lucky numbers?
I think you have to rub his tummy first.
Lovecraft13
08-16-2006, 03:56 PM
At the Seattle Gamefest, Microsoft hardware product manager RobertWalker suggested that the company may possibly release a revised Xbox 360 controller which offers better controls for first person shooters, the reason is that Microsoft does not plan to release a mouse or keyboard for the console. The new controller will be optional, not a replacement of the existing controller.
Toyandgadgetguy
09-18-2006, 11:25 AM
I just picked up a 360 for the new showroom (going to push everything HD that I can). Anyone able to suggest any of the more 'graphically awe inspiring' titles?
Lovecraft13
09-18-2006, 03:38 PM
Oblivion.
Biofungus
09-18-2006, 03:55 PM
From what I've seen, Gears of War looks amazing.
compton
09-18-2006, 06:38 PM
Fight night 3
oblivion
PGR3
Bishop
09-18-2006, 10:10 PM
Oblivion, definitely.
Chromehounds (multiplayer is amazing. Fighting in the cityscapes is incredible to look at and play)
Call Of Duty 2 is pretty good. (Demo available on XBL marketplace)
Just Cause is nice to look at (Demo available on XBL marketplace)
GRAW is beautiful (Demo available on XBL marketplace)
Madden 07 (comes out in a couple of weeks) looks amazing (Demo available on XBL marketplace)
Check out the demos and see what you like best. Oblivion is hands down the best looking game going right now thoug... at least until COD 3 and Gears come out (november).
Nitecrawlah2
09-20-2006, 11:59 AM
I just picked up a 360 for the new showroom (going to push everything HD that I can). Anyone able to suggest any of the more 'graphically awe inspiring' titles?
PGR3 looks so f*cking beautiful in HD, definitely grab that one. While I was hoping for more customizations on these cars, it's still a fun game with only the most exotic cars available.
Condemned would probably scare you in HD, so I'd check that title out as well (should be cheaper too, since it's been out a while).
Fight Night 3, if you like boxing games. The fighters look ultra-realistic. Happy hunting with the new 360!
Bishop
09-20-2006, 01:58 PM
That reminds me...
Test Drive Unlimited is sweet to look at as well.
Toyandgadgetguy
09-20-2006, 03:56 PM
Thank you all for the suggestions. I'll be renting as many of them as I can find... and the ones I get to showcase in the store... I'll let you know which ones I go with. I'll be ready to run by Nov. 1st. The 360 will be a great HD source.
So far Oblivion tops the list. I'll be renting that first.
Lovecraft13
09-21-2006, 01:22 AM
Microsoft announced starting this fall Xbox 360 will be able to support games and movies in 1080p. Xbox 360's HD-DVD movie playback function will also support 1080p. The first batch of titles supporting 1080p include:
Blue Dragon (Microsoft Game Studio)
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (Capcom)
Dead or Alive: Xtreme 2 (Tecmo)
Trusty Bell (Namco Bandai)
GIGAFATTIMON
09-21-2006, 06:26 PM
I find this suspect. Clearley this was capable all along, They gimped the system at launch to give themselves a percieved disadvantage an now release it just prior to their rival's console.
Mwynn
09-21-2006, 07:14 PM
The added hddvd makes the 360 the same price as the ps3.
Toyandgadgetguy
09-21-2006, 09:45 PM
Just got a few games and am playing through... some of this is amazing... Lego Star Wars is just plain fun... Ghost Recon is hard on the little screen (just playing at the wife's right now... haven't gotten the showroom built yet... so can't see this in HD... just playing on a 19" tube... yick). Moto GP is AMAZING. I'm dying to see this one in HD. Can't wait. Also got Call of Duty 2. About to play that now. I've seen some of the demo's of that, and I was impressed.
As far as the 1080p goes... that's a scam that the whole industry has perpetuated since the inception of 1080i for mass consumption. They were able to put out 1080p... but they chose to hold back... created a whole market... cultivate it, and then re-cultivate it with the need for sets that would handle 1080p.
Does the 360 need to download anything to be able to play back in 1080p?
NightCreeper
09-29-2006, 07:15 PM
I just saw that the 360 has a HD Player coming out for 199.99. I thought that it already played HD DVDs. So with the 360 is 400.00 + 200.00 = 600.00 same price that the PS3 cost. I still want a 360 just for Gears of War.
Morganza
09-29-2006, 09:16 PM
There is a patch for 1080p in the updates coming soon. But it only works with the HD add-on, and the HD DVD drive will not support games, and no games are being made to support 1080p output.
PS3 has it all in one package + games.
Wii has 480p output, which is good enough for anyone.
GIGAFATTIMON
09-30-2006, 09:47 AM
There is a patch for 1080p in the updates coming soon. But it only works with the HD add-on, and the HD DVD drive will not support games, and no games are being made to support 1080p output.
PS3 has it all in one package + games.
Wii has 480p output, which is good enough for anyone.
Actually it works with games too it will upconvert all output over VGA and Component* to 1080p if you set it as your resolution.
*not many TVs do that.
inkfire00
02-19-2007, 01:03 PM
From what I've seen, Gears of War looks amazing.
and the online multiplayer is too
inkfire00
02-19-2007, 06:43 PM
anybody else download paperboy?
Spacious Interior
07-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Apparently not.
(not that I'd know, but it's been about 5 months since you asked....so I didn't wanna' leave you hangin'.)
Lovecraft13
07-20-2007, 03:44 PM
anybody else download paperboy?
Nah, I have in on MAME, though.
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