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[jegg123]

Here are a few things I did. Just looking for some insight.

Xmen pencils by Jim Lee:
http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/xmen1a_LOW.gif (http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/xmen1a_HI.gif)

My Inks:
http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/xmen1_LOW.gif (http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/xmen1_HI.gif)

Spiderman Pencils by Mike Deodato:
http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/spiderman1a_LOW.gif (http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/spiderman1a_HI.gif)

Inks by Me:
http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/spiderman1_LOW.gif (http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/spiderman1_HI.gif)

Final pencils and inks by me for a comic I'm working on:
http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/mongor1_LOW.gif (http://jegg123.brinkster.net/programmedforevil/mongor1_HI.gif)

Let me know what you think. I value all your opinions. There are a lot of good artists here.

Jeff

[Giddy1]

The one major thing I'm noticing in all these pages is that you're changing the shapes of a alot of the black areas. Case in point, on the Spiderman page, you've changed the solid black shapes MD put on MJ's breast area (on her right) to feathered lines, which doesn't bode well. Those feathered lines you added in shoulda just been left solid. they flow with the style better, and jsut makes the over all flow of the work look better.
I'm also noticing you need to work on your techical stuff more too. On both the MD and Jim Lee pages, the technical lines you've done look a bit thicker than they should, bringing the out more, when they should hang back. Namely in the Spiderman page, all the cars on the bottom where Petey's swinging to the rescue, the cars have a heavier line than the penciled version, bringing the cars and the ground closer to view, when they should be thinner and sunken back more, giving the view that he's higher in the air than you have him right now.

Now jsut a question....what you Ink these with???

[VANDAL]

I see flashes of brilliance here but no consistency whatsoever. The Rahne Sinclair panel looks very nice but doesnt carry over to the rest of the page at all. Uneven line weights and often WAY too heavy followed by shading that is way too thin. I used to ink this way myself but have since learned MUCH more control over the brush i use (W&N series 7 #2). This crit is not meant to stop you from the inking endeavor because i believe it's a very noble art in and of itself no matter how much respect you get or dont get (usually DONT). Keep at it and you should REALLY work on that spiderman page because your inks look even less clean than the pencils do. Redo that page again and again after that because the pencilwork is very nice and it would make a nice portfolio piece.

[jegg123]

Thanks a lot for all your feedback. I see the both of you on this forum a bit and I respect your opinions. This is my first work in years. I've been doing it for fun the past couple of months and these are samples of the fruits of my labor. I feel like I'm getting better. That said, crap...do I have a long way to go. And I agree with everything you said. The line weights are definitely a problem. Mostly because I used a bunch of different brushes and pens on these pages. I used 102, 107, 108 and B5 pens on these pages. I also used several Winsor & Newton brushes. I'm trying to find the right tools and unfortunately I'm accustomed to the Pigma Micron markers. Which I've used for a while. The brush and pen thing seem like a whole other world. But I love em. I guess time just takes time. Again thanks for your comments. This is one of my favorite sites to surf for a reason.

Jeff

[VANDAL]

Jeff, i see HUGE potential in your work and i hope you noted that from my first post. I have come a long way myself having only come back to inking for a year or so from a five year hiatus. Keep at it man, you have the knowlege in most cases here, now it's just a matter of keeping your skills up on EVERY panel and EVERY line. You will get there and much more quickly than someone who has never inked. It's like riding a bicycle but a little bit harder than that. Take what Giddy says to you seriously too cause damn that guy is one hella inker.

[Giddy1]

Awwwwww....you got me blushing here Vandal...you sweetheart you... :p

[GW.Fisher]

If Giddy & Vandal both think you're on the right path, you must be doing something right.

Don't be afraid to use the Microns on some of those b/g's, particularly the cars in the bottom of the Spidey panel. Use the thin line weights of a 1 or a 005 on the non-organic stuff & a tad more weight to the outline of Spidey & you'll make the main figure pop up more.

Also, pick a tool & use it . Don't experiment within the same page just yet, it'll make for the uneveness your work displays here. Use a brush & pick one pen-type, then ink it. As you improve you'll learn to utilize a wider variety of tools & blend them into one another.

Giddy is also right on about the changing of the pencils. Until you get REALLY good stick with the pencils as close as possible. Once you get to the point where you're qualified to make changes you'll find that you don't really need to change all that much...

Good stuff, though. Keep posting.