Why is Alonzo Washington an ass

[KultBaby]

Let me first say that I'm an African American male who would love to see more African American leads in speculative fiction (because one can only watch Static Shock and Deep Space Nine sooo many times). But when ever I read a comment by Alonzo Washington I just get so :slap: . This guy swears every black character he didn't create is stereotypical and can't help mentioning how he thinks Dwayne McDuffie is a house n!@@er. This type of behavior may have seemed badass in Supreme Power, but in real life it makes a person look like a real ass.


DC Comics is out to get me (http://www.omega7.com/html/PressRelease_09_01_00.html)

Giving a speech without being asked (http://www.operative.net/archive/columns/soapbox/wrathofcon.html) Look under Black To The Future

Once again, Mcduffie is a tom and every stole from him (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/panel/107341752019943.htm)


For a mouth as big as his, you'd think it be easier to find these comics he says he's still publishing.

[lysdexic]

yknow what, we need some good latino heroes.IMO :laugh: but that doesnt mean im gonna be a militant spic about it and pray for a dc book that has vibe destroying superman on the cover.

but i agree with you, he must really be full of him self to start talking about comic book influences, and then just write an essay about how he wil/or how has changed african americans in comic books and calling all of them stereo types.but he has a point all the heroes i like are white and i really dont think any of the black super heroes in comics today are very interesting and they were and sometimes are stereo typical. but being how he is arrogant.,all i can say is that just like any craft we are a part of youll find all walks of life.even @-holes

[KultBaby]

The worst part is how he always goes after Dwayne Mcduffie simply because he's more famous. He calls Milestone an attempt to destroy the black comic book movement :huh: :huh: :huh:

[lysdexic]

your right. if washington was famous and i was jealous, id find any excuse to call him a wigger, too and say omegaman is stereotypical although i never read it. but the only thing id take away from milestone is not moving much more forward with thier characters. i understand they have a tight grasp on their characters but id like to see some one else do something truly amazing with books like blood syndicate,static, or icon.i think washington is jealous of milesstone cuz he cant touch those characters and hes frustrated that not enough is done with them.

[carriertone]

Oh yeah, I totally agree with him...wait...who is he?
I have been an avid comic reader for 23 years, and I've never heard of this guy. If he's sooooo great, why don't more people know about his comics. I remember seeing ads for ANIA and Omega Man, briefly, back in the day...but if he's done so much for African-American comics and heroes, why isn't he a household name. He must be the most famous person he knows. I thought Milestone was great. I think McDuffie is great. I would love to see less stereotypical "minority" characters, but if/when that happens, Alonso Washington had/will have very little to do with it. Things are changing though, just very slowly.

Well, there's my two cents.

-C

[SUBZERO 2003]

I wonder how the creator of " Brotherman " keeps a straight face on when uttering his accusations. Holy stereotype, Batman !

Oh and DC is out to get the Giffenleague......not him. :har:

[dpendleton]

This is old ass news,like early 90's news I think most of these guys made up now. P.s I hate the word wigger to close to calling somebody a you know the word.

[kdmelrose]

The first link is from 2000, and the other two are from the past couple of years.

[Aidy]

is he the Spike Lee of comics???

[dpendleton]

The first link is from 2000, and the other two are from the past couple of years.
Yeah I looked at it. D'oh,but really it is old news and alonzo is a great activist in his community outside of comics.I don't think the dude that did brotherman ever said anything bad about DC or Milestone.

[Mark Bertolini]

I really liked a lot of Milestone books, definately Hardware and Xombi. DC should try to work something out to bring these titles back.

[chris stevens]

this guy might be a decent fella outside of comics but he comes off like a deluded clown playing a strange variation of the race card.

i've been into comics all my life, deeply into them, and i never heard of him, his books, or his company. he comes across as an opportunist with poor diction and yellow teeth.

[Justice41]

Eh, All characters in comics are Stereotypes, whether it be racial or economic or historical.
Dwaynes doing some great stuff with JLU.

[Dafixer3000]

Lord have mercy, this place is white. This is what I love about being a fanboy, you can count on so-called "liberal" views until it attacks an establishment and suddenly those open minds close like steal traps and it the view has too much black in it we can just forget about reasonable discussion. Not to mention white fanboy think they have some lincense to throw in some racial slurs in as if that justifies. . .I don't know what the hell it's supposed to bloody justify.

But it's the nature of the beast. We fanboy make compromises for that which we love, and Black fanboys have to make more compromises then others.

I'm Dafixer, how about we change that a bit, shall we?

[scherzo]

This place is white?

Hmmm....on my screen it's more of an off grey. :yawn:

-scherzo

[Ron Phillips]

Lord have mercy, this place is white. This is what I love about being a fanboy, you can count on so-called "liberal" views until it attacks an establishment and suddenly those open minds close like steal traps and it the view has too much black in it we can just forget about reasonable discussion. Not to mention white fanboy think they have some lincense to throw in some racial slurs in as if that justifies. . .I don't know what the hell it's supposed to bloody justify.

But it's the nature of the beast. We fanboy make compromises for that which we love, and Black fanboys have to make more compromises then others.

I'm Dafixer, how about we change that a bit, shall we?

The majority of the posters to this thread are of color.

We appreciate you joining, but if this is any indication of your participation you might get a rocky reception.

Alonzo Washington is an extreme activist for race in comics. He blows himself up bigger than he is. While I admire his zeal, bottom line is that his comics don't perform well against mainstream "white" comics is not because of race but because they are sub par.

He's been railing against the machine for a better part of two decades, he hasn't succeeded in improving race representation in comics.

[Mr.Musgrave]

Lord have mercy, this place is white.


Someone's a hypocrite, aren't they.

[Justice41]

your right. if washington was famous and i was jealous, id find any excuse to call him a wigger too and say omegaman is stereotypical although i never read it.
Hey this tactic worked out well for Fifty Cent. He went after every well known rapper at the time and by the rappers responding to him they elevated Fitty to their level. If McDuffie responded he screwed himself. This tactic also works for journalism and other media related fields. Find a target that's a known factor, attack them, and try to destroy them personally and once they respond or are destroyed, your star will shine brighter to whomever it is you are trying to please.

[xsouthsidex]

not for nothing but has anyone been reading marvel lately?
black panther has been consistantly great and luke cage and falcon are becoming major players.I dont know for sure but im comfortable thinking that goliath will be more visible after civil war.
i think theres some great strides made in comics for writing black characters as 4 of my top ten character to read right now are black characters.

[JonHParrish]

Lord have mercy, this place is white. This is what I love about being a fanboy, you can count on so-called "liberal" views until it attacks an establishment and suddenly those open minds close like steal traps and it the view has too much black in it we can just forget about reasonable discussion. Not to mention white fanboy think they have some lincense to throw in some racial slurs in as if that justifies. . .I don't know what the hell it's supposed to bloody justify.

But it's the nature of the beast. We fanboy make compromises for that which we love, and Black fanboys have to make more compromises then others.

I'm Dafixer, how about we change that a bit, shall we?

Not the best way to make a first impression.

I remember reading a debate about black stereotypes in comic books. People complained about how it was borderline racist and just wrong, but then when there were characters that didn't fit those stereotypes, those characters were labled as being "not black enough" by black readers. They said that they weren't realistic enough or someone they could relate to. I think before people try to change the state of black characters in comics, which I think have a lot of potential, we as black people need to change our view of ourselves.

Also, I liked Milestone coming up just because it was nice to see some black superheroes for a change. While they may have all been "stereotypes" they paved the way for black heroes to be taken seriously or at least given better storylines. I really don't know much about Alonzo Washington so I won't act like I do, but I can say something my grandfather (or someone like that told me), "You neeed to stop being a human being and start being a human doing." which basically means get off your ass and do something if you don't like the situation. If you don't like the black characters out there, then make your own.

Just my overblown two cents.

By the way, Dafixer, there are more black members than you think, myself included, as well as people of many other races. Watch who you call close-minded and white. Also why does white have to be associated with close-mindedness in the first place ? Just think before you type.

[xsouthsidex]

Not the best way to make a first impression.

I remember reading a debate about black stereotypes in comic books. People complained about how it was borderline racist and just wrong, but then when there were characters that didn't fit those stereotypes, those characters were labled as being "not black enough" by black readers. They said that they weren't realistic enough or someone they could relate to. I think before people try to change the state of black characters in comics, which I think have a lot of potential, we as black people need to change our view of ourselves.

Also, I liked Milestone coming up just because it was nice to see some black superheroes for a change. While they may have all been "stereotypes" they paved the way for black heroes to be taken seriously or at least given better storylines. I really don't know much about Alonzo Washington so I won't act like I do, but I can say something my grandfather (or someone like that told me), "You neeed to stop being a human being and start being a human doing." which basically means get off your ass and do something if you don't like the situation. If you don't like the black characters out there, then make your own.

Just my overblown two cents.

By the way, Dafixer, there are more black members than you think, myself included, as well as people of many other races. Watch who you call close-minded and white. Also why does white have to be associated with close-mindedness in the first place ? Just think before you type.

i hardly find that overblown,and id give you more than two cents for it :) your grandfather was a smart dude.

[JonHParrish]

Well, shucks. Thanks a lot.

[nolanjwerner]

I say we counter his arguments.

Launch a book filled with the most atrocious stereotypes ever and let the members of their own community take them out in the book. No humourous Minoriteam style veiling.

[Imboden]

not for nothing but has anyone been reading marvel lately?
black panther has been consistantly great and luke cage and falcon are becoming major players.I dont know for sure but im comfortable thinking that goliath will be more visible after civil war.

Ehhhhhh, don't get toooo comfy.

:huh:

Luke Cage and Falcon, however...!