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Bishop
04-07-2016, 06:22 PM
So, the new Star Wars trailer released today. I think it looks like a lot of fun. This may satisfy those that didn't like the way TFA rehashed a lot of things from prior movies as it appears to be more original (even though it takes place in some familiar settings)...

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Jason Powell
04-07-2016, 06:31 PM
Another Death Star... Really? Do they have no originality? The story may be good but this has already turned my stomach.

-Jason

Bishop
04-07-2016, 06:52 PM
Of course there is a death star. This is the story of how the Rebels stole the plans for the death star prior to episode 4.

Jason Powell
04-07-2016, 07:24 PM
Of course there is a death star. This is the story of how the Rebels stole the plans for the death star prior to episode 4.

Didn't Know that but it does explain the more classical looking Stroomtroopers but still, terrible idea. I am skipping the rest of the franchise.

-Jason

Angel
04-07-2016, 08:37 PM
I can't believe this story is yet again about a rebellion against an evil intergalactic empire! What a complete lack of originality. When will Star Wars focus more on the stars instead of all this war stuff? Give it a rest already!

Bishop
04-07-2016, 09:21 PM
Didn't Know that but it does explain the more classical looking Stroomtroopers but still, terrible idea. I am skipping the rest of the franchise.

-Jason

I think it's a great idea. It's a good way to organically flesh out the universe and introduce new characters, etc. I'm also looking for to the Solo/Fett movie they are working on.

Bishop
04-07-2016, 09:23 PM
I can't believe this story is yet again about a rebellion against an evil intergalactic empire! What a complete lack of originality. When will Star Wars focus more on the stars instead of all this war stuff? Give it a rest already!

And what is it with light sabers? In every freaking Star Wars movie!

Jason Powell
04-08-2016, 12:30 AM
See there is no originality in that. I mean really, do they not know how to expand and take new ground. I am not saying forget the whole primus but you can find new bad guys and not rehash the same story over and over. I mean I can think of million ways to continue you the story without Stroomtroopers, a Death star or even mention the Dark Side. I know Disney is playing it safe but without doing something new a person has to wonder why buy the ticket at all. And that goes for any movie. You don't need to tell me how Batman's mother died for thousand times. I got it. Show me something I haven't seen. That is what gets me in the seat.

Angel
04-08-2016, 12:38 AM
NEVER forget the whole Primus...ever.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pZNS6DAph1o/TfkT-cwxJWI/AAAAAAAAAmg/ootTuEx2RCA/s1600/Primus.jpeg

Moonrider
04-08-2016, 01:14 AM
It has Donnie Yen in it. Even if it sucks, I'd probably gonna watch it for his likely brief appearance and off screen demise.

Ingrid K. V. Hardy
04-08-2016, 08:14 AM
And what is it with light sabers? In every freaking Star Wars movie!

lol... honestly. In every. Single. Movie. :laugh:

For those who still enjoy the SW universe, it looks like fun and it'll be interesting to see how everything plays out. Will every movie be the same theme/little guy vs big guy/"only you have the power" thing? It remains to be seen, in my humble opinion, as it all moves forward. The books played with different ideas (I didn't read them all, just The Dark Nest trilogy and Legacy of the Force, and one or two others). The Dark Nest books were really very good, I thought.

There is room for lots of different points of view (so to speak) from different characters. It could be tons of fun, but for sure there is absolutely no way to please everyone.

Moonrider
04-08-2016, 11:52 AM
I sure hope that the lead female character will be portrayed more realistically and not like really good at everything from shooting blasters to driving spaceships or fighting dark jedi like a boss.

Buckyrig
04-08-2016, 12:14 PM
It's really weird seeing Star Wars movie trailers done in generic-modern-summer-movie style.

I guess market research shows this stuff works, but it does feel like these should have their own personality.

dannycruz
04-08-2016, 12:14 PM
it looks cool but to be honest the trailer didn't really wow me. i think i just need to get used to a star wars movie with a decidedly different tone. also, i'm kind of tired of prequels.

as far as primus, a group of us once chased down and scared the shit out of les claypool in a parking lot a long, long, time ago. we just wanted his autograph and to say hi but, i guess we might've been too enthusiastic.

Angel
04-08-2016, 08:29 PM
I sure hope that the lead female character will be portrayed more realistically and not like really good at everything from shooting blasters to driving spaceships or fighting dark jedi like a boss.

Legit critique.

Jason Powell
04-08-2016, 09:12 PM
Well we are getting another orphan, so why not. She will probably have the force also and us a light saber against the dread super Stroomtrooper (dressed in all black no less - can't have originality there),

Moonrider
04-09-2016, 12:41 PM
If the story premise are true, we shouldn't find any Jedi or force user there besides Darth Vader. However, the trailer still seem to indicate that she doesn't really need a ragtag team of outcasts just to go on a suicide mission with.

omega sentry
04-10-2016, 11:24 PM
I thought Jason was being sarcastic....lol but this is what I complained about when they announced rogue one at the time TFA was coming out. I had no idea why they would add starkiller base if they were going to make a movie with the original deathstar. It's just redundant.

However I am more optimistic about this one even though katnis is in the movie...



If the story premise are true, we shouldn't find any Jedi or force user there besides Darth Vader. However, the trailer still seem to indicate that she doesn't really need a ragtag team of outcasts just to go on a suicide mission with.
Idk I don't think that hooded person is Darth Vader so he has to be an inquisitor.....they said no Jedi but they didn't say anything about a darkside user.

Bishop
04-11-2016, 12:03 AM
Their have been reports that Vader is in it. I suspect that the hooded person from the trailer is bowing to him. Maybe the movie has no Jedi, but it supposedly has a Sith...

omega sentry
04-11-2016, 12:54 AM
Their have been reports that Vader is in it. I suspect that the hooded person from the trailer is bowing to him. Maybe the movie has no Jedi, but it supposedly has a Sith...

inquisitors aren't Jedi nor sith, neither are knights of Ren it seems. I wouldn't mind force sensitives on this movie.

Bishop
04-11-2016, 08:35 AM
inquisitors aren't Jedi nor sith, neither are knights of Ren it seems.

Correct. I was referring to Vader being in the movie.

Buckyrig
04-11-2016, 11:30 AM
Nerds. :p

Bishop
04-11-2016, 01:13 PM
Nerds. :p

Darn right

Jason Powell
04-11-2016, 02:38 PM
I thought Jason was being sarcastic....lol but this is what I complained about when they announced rogue one at the time TFA was coming out. I had no idea why they would add starkiller base if they were going to make a movie with the original deathstar. It's just redundant.

However I am more optimistic about this one even though katnis is in the movie...




Idk I don't think that hooded person is Darth Vader so he has to be an inquisitor.....they said no Jedi but they didn't say anything about a darkside user.

No, I was being serious, I am not following all these spin offs so I had no idea this was a prequel, I just thought it was a spin off of TFA. But I have no faith in these spin offs and sequels. They lack any originality so far and seem to be just about the money and not telling a good story. TFA really ruined it for me. So yeah, I am out. I know they will still make bank but I refuse to waist another dime on them.

-Jason

Bishop
04-11-2016, 03:39 PM
They lack any originality so far and seem to be just about the money and not telling a good story.

But, you enjoyed Batman v Superman?

Jason Powell
04-11-2016, 07:00 PM
But, you enjoyed Batman v Superman?

I did, because there was one thing TFA didn't have and that was originality. It wasn't perfect though because it lacked development on several key points and was too long. I totally believe it should of been broken up into two, two hr movies and it would of done better. I am looking to see if Justice League does a better job, if not, oh well. But I am a Comics geek, not a SCI FI geek so I will see comic movies no matter what.

-Jason

Bishop
04-11-2016, 08:41 PM
Understood. I am a SciFi geek and a Comic Book geek so I will watch both regardless. I'll admit I am a harsher critic on the comic book moves though, I think.

Jason Powell
04-11-2016, 09:25 PM
Understood. I am a SciFi geek and a Comic Book geek so I will watch both regardless. I'll admit I am a harsher critic on the comic book moves though, I think.

I understand I am harder to please on horror movies. I'm such a die hard horror movie fan (not gore) that I pick them to death.

sevans
04-11-2016, 11:17 PM
Horror movie buff....seen any good one's recently.
I haven't. All very predictable fare, style over substance (or character, build-up etc)

Jason Powell
04-11-2016, 11:36 PM
Horror movie buff....seen any good one's recently.
I haven't. All very predictable fare, style over substance (or character, build-up etc)

Nope. It is sad. Hollywood forgot what horror is I think.

Bishop
04-11-2016, 11:54 PM
I thought The Babadook was decent.

Duane Korslund
04-12-2016, 09:28 AM
I thought The Babadook was decent.

I didnt get 5 minutes into it before flipping off Netflix...

Bishop
04-12-2016, 10:08 AM
It was a slow burn, but I thought it was a pretty unique story.

I also enjoyed It Follows. It was much better than I thought it would be.

sevans
04-12-2016, 07:42 PM
Babadook is pretty good.
Waiting for the Ash vs Evil Dead series to come out on DVD.
NOT scary but great fun.

omega sentry
06-30-2016, 11:54 AM
http://img.suggest.com/gls/9/9/9/0/1/b/99901bd33be223620f121fec87b7d0dacfe26294.jpg

On another note I don't like the new trooper designs. They don't mesh well with the classic. The death troopers look like something from battlestar galactica.
Bad combo of darth vader helmet and storm troopers helmet. To obvious that, that's what they were trying to do.

Bishop
06-30-2016, 12:33 PM
I'm just curious, has there been a reboot or sequel lately that you have liked? Any of the Marvel movies?

Ingrid K. V. Hardy
07-01-2016, 08:11 AM
:laugh: Wasn't sure whether to laugh or run in horror at the sight of the image...

Strangely, as time went on, I was less and less keen on this movie, but after seeing a few more previews, I'm really looking forward to seeing what this movie will feel like.

Duane Korslund
07-01-2016, 09:11 AM
im torn about the idea of side star wars stories...I like that there's more content coming out...kinda takes away from the "specialness" of a new star wars movie release...but then....I'd gladly trade "specialness" for good star wars movies...
Also, I'm done worrying about the hipster attitude toward...well everything....movies in particular...I'm gonna like whatever I like whether its somewhat crappy or not....I actually liked Batman Vs Superman...there I said it....I liked The Force Awakens, and several other movies deemed evil by the bored, desensitized, hipster mind..
/endrant.
gonna give rogue one a day in court, Im sure i'll enjoy it.

Buckyrig
07-01-2016, 01:09 PM
Critical viewing is for hipsters now? :confused:

That's an odd position to take on a board dedicated to creating comic books.

Ingrid K. V. Hardy
07-01-2016, 01:59 PM
http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/giggle.gif



The books were an add-on, and many of them were great. Don't see why a bigger universe couldn't work...?

Duane Korslund
07-01-2016, 03:09 PM
Critical viewing is for hipsters now? :confused:

That's an odd position to take on a board dedicated to creating comic books.

OVERLY critical viewing,and a preponderance of negativity for anything created with a large budget is rather hipster. It happens a lot...

Buckyrig
07-01-2016, 03:37 PM
OVERLY critical viewing,and a preponderance of negativity for anything created with a large budget is rather hipster. It happens a lot...

I bought a copy of The Force Awakens Blu Ray maybe a week after it came out. I still haven't watched it. That's genuine disinterest.
I want to like The Force Awakens more, but it just doesn't have its hooks in me.

It's a long time problem with Abrams. The Star Treks don't beg to be re-watched. Super 8 starts awesome and then turns kind of meh. His TV series keep falling apart in the middle seasons.

It's a chronic issue. Dissecting what causes it just makes sense.

I haven't seen BvS (my second viewing of MOS I went from being lukewarm on it to outright disliking it), but how on earth do you do a deconstructionist film in a world you haven't actually constructed yet?

And a lot of the criticisms I've seen of the movie are Moviemaking 101 issues, like lack of establishing shots.

You can like whatever you want, but you might have to accept that some things are guilty pleasures. And it sometimes feels that some fans don't want to have to accept that.

I desperately want Abrams to make great movies. I am a big fan of what he tries to do. I just wish he would finally begin succeeding. As I've written before, he's the king of 'not quite'.

sevans
07-01-2016, 10:42 PM
If your not fond of Abrams.....why would you buy the blu ray?

By handing your cash over, creating more sales etc, you are helping to ensure that Mr Abrams gets to create more movies.

????

dannycruz
07-02-2016, 09:54 AM
On another note I don't like the new trooper designs. They don't mesh well with the classic. The death troopers look like something from battlestar galactica.
Bad combo of darth vader helmet and storm troopers helmet. To obvious that, that's what they were trying to do.

yeah, me neither. seems to me that it's loosely based on one of the earlier designs of the vader helmet but it doesn't really work.
on the plus side, its going to be great to see classic stormtroopers on the big screen again. i always loved that design.

Buckyrig
07-02-2016, 11:31 AM
If your not fond of Abrams.....why would you buy the blu ray?

By handing your cash over, creating more sales etc, you are helping to ensure that Mr Abrams gets to create more movies.

I enjoyed the movie well enough in the theater.

I just haven't felt like I've wanted to re-watch.

And I do like what it is Abrams is trying to be . . . I just think he maybe needs a partner. One who will be brutally honest with him and force him to keep his plots and characterization more on point.

Moonrider
07-02-2016, 12:43 PM
I enjoyed the movie well enough in the theater.

I just haven't felt like I've wanted to re-watch.

And I do like what it is Abrams is trying to be . . . I just think he maybe needs a partner. One who will be brutally honest with him and force him to keep his plots and characterization more on point.

He had a partner. His name was Damon Lindelof, and surprisingly Abrams is the sane one.

omega sentry
07-02-2016, 12:51 PM
I'm just curious, has there been a reboot or sequel lately that you have liked? Any of the Marvel movies?

Lately being the key word not really. Of course I have not seen civil war yet. For the reason I posted early this week. I'm getting annoyed at the need for comedic entertainment over substance. I need my meat and potatoes.

I decided to go see Warcraft instead on account that me and my wife are world of Warcraft nerds.

Bishop
07-02-2016, 01:42 PM
Lately being the key word not really. Of course I have not seen civil war yet. For the reason I posted early this week. I'm getting annoyed at the need for comedic entertainment over substance. I need my meat and potatoes.

I decided to go see Warcraft instead on account that me and my wife are world of Warcraft nerds.

How did you like Warcraft? I've heard nothing but bad things.

Moonrider
07-02-2016, 06:09 PM
Warcraft is totally better than what most critics made it out to be. Its major flaws perhaps are from some questionable casting for the humans side, and some pretty nerdy background lore that flies over the common critics' head. Pretty much 3/4 of a good movie because all the orc side of the tale is really good.

omega sentry
07-04-2016, 03:51 PM
How did you like Warcraft? I've heard nothing but bad things.

The bad things from people probably not invested in the story for visual aesthetics reasons I suppose.

Forexample if you're or rather if one is an armor pedant the bright colors might take your immersion. Not that they are bad in fact they are very well done and true to the game lore of the world of Warcraft game. In the game now days the armor is more devoid of color. I mean there is color but their more cool tones and realist to this world seriousness. Where as in the games conception the colors were more bright and clean. The humans have that tone, if I have to compare I would compare them too Eragon. The horde are more dirty and gritty like in the game but also true to their colors.

The wizard medivh reminded me of Christopher lambert. So I can see why people would like him or dissasosiate from his acting. Christopher lambert really has that hit or miss moments the actor felt the same.

khadgar kind of reminded me of Eragon, so basically a kid with a destiny but the kids is meh.

The rest of the humans were good at their role. Some people might be but the king wasn't kingly but that's the point of that character.

But story wise it's true to its lore, the horde feel than the humans. It also does not hold your hand by telling you the plot. You have to figure it out your self.

I suppose people like to be told the plot so that's an aspect that would confuse people and get them out of the film and nip pick it. It a good movie but not an epic change your life type of movie.


I suppose that's what happen to me with the force awakens. See my wife bought me the force awakens blue ray. Cause of my fanatism towards starwars. But with this one I can't make it past the cantina. It's about there that the movie starts falling apart to an un escapable black hole of suck.

I guess I feel they butcher any achievement the main characters had beyond redemption, A 29 year old man child acting like a 15 year old anakin, ( which I wouldn't mind if people had not trash the prequels to the degree they had) another deathstar but not just another Death Star one that goes from probable or plausible to impossible, finally Rey really being so spoon feed to be a marvel that she has no real progression or feeling that she was ever in any danger. Oh yeah and the fact that I already saw the force awakens in the form of starwars. Which was a better narrative and had greater purpose So it's flause could be over looked.

Those things take me out of the immersion so much that the movie feels forcesed to me.

Duane Korslund
07-05-2016, 09:40 AM
I loved Warcraft, but then Im very much up on the Lore of Azeroth...
My theory is that if you never played Warcraft, and didnt really pay attention to the story in World of Warcraft...you'll probably hate this movie.
I think its dependent on the viewer to have decent knowledge of the Lore. This movie was made FOR fans....which is why most people that I've talked to who are fans love it, and the ones who never played hated it.

Bishop
07-05-2016, 09:50 AM
Yeah, I haven't played anything Warcraft for ages, and I wouldn't consider myself being even halfway knowledgeable of the lore. I'll wait and Redbox it when it comes out.

Moonrider
07-10-2016, 04:03 AM
I feel that the only problem with the Warcraft movie is that videogame lore has yet reached the same respectable status as other literary works such as novels. Yes I understand that there may have been several novels and graphic novels based on the Warcraft lore, but they're hardly accessible to non fans.

omega sentry
01-26-2017, 05:39 PM
Man this place is dead....on the flip side rouge one was better than TFA even though it has a rocky beging. If you don't mind the sloppy ending to TFA the you won't mind the bumpy beginning for rouge 1. The ending is worth the wait...

Bishop
01-26-2017, 10:12 PM
I agree. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

sevans
01-27-2017, 04:22 AM
Rogue One was a good surprise, with a very cool ending.
PLUS, Darth Vader came across as a bad ass (not Hayden)

Bishop
01-27-2017, 09:36 AM
Yes, the last 5 minutes or so was amazing! I love how they connected it right into A New Hope.

Moonrider
01-29-2017, 03:00 AM
Wow, finally some signs of life.
Rogue One was a pretty good Star Wars movie. Pretty dodgy CGI use, and I wished the team had one or two other non-human members than the droid, but okay.

Bishop
01-29-2017, 03:13 PM
I thought the cgi was pretty good except for Tarkin and Leia. Is that what you are referring to?

sevans
01-30-2017, 02:38 AM
Tarkin and Leia were abit off.
I actually thought that the CGI Tarkin was more 'animated' or expressive than the real one.

Moonrider
01-30-2017, 05:50 AM
I thought the cgi was pretty good except for Tarkin and Leia. Is that what you are referring to?

Yes.

omega sentry
02-02-2017, 07:51 AM
I actually thought Tarkin was pretty good leia was the one that threw me off. Leia seemed like it could have been better but it was a last minute decision. If they had more time it might have looked better.