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lobocomics
09-19-2013, 02:16 AM
HI GUYS.. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.. BUT HERE ARE TWO OF MY MOST RECENT PAGES... HOPE YOU LIKE THEM, AND PLEASE.. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK.. SALUDOS

THIS ONE IS FROM A CYBERFORCE SAMPLE PAGE BY MY COMPATRIOTA GERARDO SANDOVAL

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/231/6/c/cyberforce_pencils_by_sandoval__inks_by_curiel_by_ lobocomics-d6ity04.jpg

http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/235/c/a/cyberforce_anniversary__by_gordotote-d5c6cyx.jpg

THIS ONE IS BY STEFFANO CASELLI.. THE AVENGERS..

http://th07.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2013/246/c/f/avengers_by_caselli_inks_by_curiel_by_lobocomics-d6kym7s.jpg

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/246/3/8/avengers_by_casselli_2_by_lobocomics-d6kymfe.jpg

AND THIS ONE IS BY DANIEL SAMPERE.. FROM A DC COMIC PANDORA

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/258/f/e/pandora__pencils_by_sampere__inks_by_curiel_by_lob ocomics-d6mhwvx.jpg

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/258/b/4/pandora2page06_by_lobocomics-d6mhxjm.jpg

krosis
09-19-2013, 03:27 AM
I really like these overall.. The Avengers group shot needs something to make the characters pop off the Background for sure..

Your main Achilles Heel is your feathering though.. This is such a subtle thing but mediocre feathering will kill an otherwise good ink..

Look at this below:

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r571/Evolved_Heavy_Raider/pandora_fix_zps9d5e0629.jpg

Do you see what I changed? lower left corner..

Make your feathering look like that.. and you're.. 60% home..

edit to add: another example..

I posted this on johnjohn's last thread as well.. for the same reasons so:

The upper part is what you need to do..
the lower is (sorta) what you are doing.

http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r571/Evolved_Heavy_Raider/feathering_zps25c94679.jpg

Are these helpful at all?

lobocomics
09-19-2013, 10:53 AM
yes of course.. thanks!

Erick Cruz
09-24-2013, 07:03 PM
i like what i see, but i think the problem is that you're controlling the line all the way to the edge, instead flicking off at the end, that's whats giving it its bluntness.

On those first samples, im not sure if that's Stryker holding up the girl, but that stuff thats covering half his chest and face, the line weights need to be thinner than the rest IMO part of the problem is the bluntness i mentioned before.
The Pandora page, that first panel is another example of not varying line weights. Everything's got that same bold line.

What did you use to ink these?

lobocomics
09-25-2013, 10:44 PM
Hi.. the truth is... I reaally don't like that kind of feathering... so thick at the bottom and pointy, the reason they look so even, is because I am trying not to do the bottom so thick... buuuttt--- since everyone seems not to like that style.. I will have to do something about it (you are not the only ones guys).. and also don't like when the images have such obvious diffrent thikness in lines... I like more of a subbtle diffrence.. that you can't even tell they are thick or thin... Howeveeeeerr... again no one seems to like that.. sooooo... well it's obvious what my job is... thanks

Oh.. and I use two Hunt 102 quills, one really worn out for thick lines, and one brand new for thinner lines, and a brush for heavier lines and filling blacks, also some retouches with photoshop, here and there.

Saludos

krosis
09-26-2013, 02:02 AM
Well.. the point of feathering.. is to allow the eye to be fooled into seeing a gradual change from dark to light.. It's not a question of style.. or what the inker likes to do.. ;) There are different styles of doing it.. of which I showed you one style.. If you want to get up to the level of inking professionally.. then.. like it or not.. you'll need to learn how to do it.. and please don't take that the wrong way.. I'm not saying "You'll learn it and like it." It's just.. (shrug) industry standard. Now.. maybe that's not your goal.. if so.. then I'll shut up. :)

lobocomics
09-26-2013, 05:41 PM
I have seen inkers.. very good inkers (professional) that doesn't necessary do just this one kind of feathering.. which is the basic one, some even do it the total opposite.. to create diffrent effects of volume, and texture.. the fact that I am not able to pull it off to me is because... well I need more practice and master the basics... so.. I think we are both on the same page here... :thumbs:

Erick Cruz
09-28-2013, 06:06 PM
Hi.. the truth is... I reaally don't like that kind of feathering... so thick at the bottom and pointy, the reason they look so even, is because I am trying not to do the bottom so thick... buuuttt--- since everyone seems not to like that style.. I will have to do something about it (you are not the only ones guys).. and also don't like when the images have such obvious diffrent thikness in lines... I like more of a subbtle diffrence.. that you can't even tell they are thick or thin... Howeveeeeerr... again no one seems to like that.. sooooo... well it's obvious what my job is... thanks

Oh.. and I use two Hunt 102 quills, one really worn out for thick lines, and one brand new for thinner lines, and a brush for heavier lines and filling blacks, also some retouches with photoshop, here and there.

Saludos

You really do need to change up line weights otherwise everything blends in and you cant capture the depth of the subjects or objects in the image. It's not really about style but rather necessity for the sake of the drawing.

You need to sell that it has depth (foreground, middle ground and background) allowing the illusion of a 3D image in a 2D setting. If the penciller doesn't use varying lineweights, adds shadows, etc in their work then its the inkers who come to the rescue and make the final piece a true collaborative effort instead of "tracing" whats on the page.

I'm no pro but the few times ive collaborated with an inker i've always encouraged them to put in their on stamp on things to make the image much better. Sometimes it's worked, other times not so much.