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paul brian deberry
06-10-2013, 08:20 PM
It's time for a new lettering activity.

My pal Adam Masterman (http://adammasterman.deviantart.com/)is a swell dude and like all swell dudes. He gave me a hand with this weeks lettering activity. By supplying a page of art and the script.

If you feel like you need a little practice or just wanna have some fun - have at it!

Rules:

Post your finished work to this thread. If you complete the work. Be open to critiques and you MUST critique the others lettering work.

Deadline: June 24th

Dialogue for Echo Lettering Sample 4

Panel 1

ECHO: Look, I think we should…

Panel 2

ECHO: What the…

Panel 3-5 (connected balloons)

Panel 3

ECHO: Whoops, it's…

Panel 4

ECHO: Hold on, let me…

Panel 5

ECHO: Awww… crud.

Panel 6

ECHO: Ooof!

Panel 7

ECHO: Um, I think the gravity is broken…

Chibi Caption

ECHO: I'm not clumsy. Really! It was just… oh, whatever. Hiro can tell you about this next part...

Evan Henry
06-10-2013, 09:25 PM
Adam Masterman is awesome! I criticized the original lettering on this page, so I guess I kinda have to give it a try. Thanks for posting!

Adam Masterman
06-10-2013, 10:14 PM
Have at it, guys. I'm, quite frankly, a terrible letterer; but I do study and do my best to improve, so I'm excited to see what it looks like with some genuine letterers at the helm. Can I reserve the right to shamelessly steal from you all when I re-work this page? :)

Evan Henry
06-10-2013, 10:19 PM
Thrown together real quick. Not sure how well it came off. This is my first time doing connected balloons like that, actually. Resized in Paint; sorry for the blur.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/161/d/6/echo_lettering_sample_4_by_evanhenry-d68khm4.jpg

Feel free to steal, Adam!

Adam Masterman
06-10-2013, 10:42 PM
Nice. What font is that? Letteromatic?

As much as I like the *idea* of the faded balloons, one look at this page shows me that the traditional look just works better here. I'd already kinda figured this out; my newer work on this project uses outlined, non-faded balloons. But this is a nice confirmation. Also like how you ran the tail off panel in panel 2; works great.

Evan Henry
06-10-2013, 10:46 PM
Font is WebLetterer. It's similar to Letteromatic but a bit less cartoony.

I wasn't sure if putting a second tail on the end of the panel 3-5 spread made any sense, but I don't think it looks terrible.

Inkspot
06-13-2013, 01:46 AM
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l604/PANolte/lettering%20samples/00-echocallawaypjla_zps528e07e6.jpg

Hoping the image isn't as distorted as I think it looks on my screen. I've been having issues with Illustrator exporting 100 dpi TIFFs lately.

I've never read Echo Callaway, but I do like the art and the story sounds really great. I'll have to look into it. Solid all ages titles can be hard to come by. There are plenty of them, but I don't think enough treat their audience with respect.

@SuperMonkey - The only real comment I have is that even connecting tails should originate from the center of the balloons. It looks like you got pretty close, but that middle panel is throwing things off. Nice work!

Are there official letters for this page? It'd be interesting to compare to our attempts.

Adam Masterman
06-13-2013, 06:26 PM
Nice stuff, Inkspot; really dig that "oof!".

There *are* "official" letters for the page, but I'm now feeling a little shy about sharing them. As I said, lettering is the weakest part of my game; my version looks pretty amateur compared to these two examples. However, you are correct that the comparison is needed, so here they are (critique freely):

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/001/5/4/martian_arrival_by_adammasterman-d5q3jim.jpg

Inkspot
06-15-2013, 12:54 AM
Thanks! Looking back at my pass, there are a few spacing things I would change. I guess there's always going to be something you would go back and fix if you could, …

You're too hard on yourself. In 5 of the 7 panels, we all put the text in the same relative places. There are stylistic differences, sure, but it means you're thinking about building that eyeline and leaving enough space for letters on some level. That's worth a lot.

Steeven Labeau
06-20-2013, 05:54 AM
I did two attempts, the difference is the connected balloons, even if the first version has my personal preference:

http://i81.servimg.com/u/f81/17/70/95/85/ec_0410.jpg

http://i81.servimg.com/u/f81/17/70/95/85/ec_04-10.jpg

As Inkspot says, it’s much more about stylistic choices than balloon placement, but it was a pleasure to letter this page, even if I don’t know how you’ll appreciate the result.

Supermonkey: I would change the thickness of the connectors for a better harmony with the other balloon tails.

Inkspot: It’s not a real critique on your work, but I just noticed you added a period (or a comma, I’m not sure) before each ellipsis, is there a particular reason?

Paul Brian DeBerry: Thanks for this new lettering activity!

Inkspot
06-20-2013, 01:23 PM
Including a comma before ellipses is a grammatical choice that most comics I've read don't utilize. I've dropped it when asked, but because I've defaulted to it since I started lettering, it can be tough to catch. I just prefer how it looks, honestly, and because it's so infrequently used by others, it's kind of become an identifier.

If you were reading a book and you came across "should…" versus "should, …", would you trust the editing that came after the first example? Probably not.

Watch your point of origin for the tail in the last panel. Other than that, both takes looks good.

One last thing. The major difference between my take and the others, that I can see, is the placement of the balloons across the middle panels. Putting them all above Echo, or all below her, seems to be what everyone else is doing, but I wanted to emphasize her twisting around and being uncomfortable in the air. Does my placement actually accomplish that, or is it just a distraction?

Shawn DePasquale
06-22-2013, 10:12 PM
Hello! Long time lurker. Here's my contribution:

http://i.imgur.com/yAoQNst.jpg

Steeven Labeau
06-26-2013, 06:19 AM
Inkspot: Thanks for the precisions, and you’re right, I never encountered this case before and the fact it was systematic in your lettering made me think it was intentional, and I wondered why. I’ve also updated my version:

http://i81.servimg.com/u/f81/17/70/95/85/ec_04-11.jpg

The idea behind your balloon placement is an interesting option. In my case I chose to place balloons above characters when it was possible, because I didn’t really follow this rule when I started to letter my own comics. However, I didn’t connect balloons on top because the connectors would cover Echo’s arm, and I wanted to preserve the artwork, especially because there’s other available space.

Your placement doesn’t bother me but I let my more experienced fellows give their opinion.

Shawn DePasquale: I had a problem to connect my balloons above without covering Echo’s arm, but you found a way to avoid that. I could only suggest you to make the tail start from the center of the "Ooof!" balloon, for a better result.

I hope I was clear, english is not my mother tongue. ;)

paul brian deberry
06-27-2013, 12:18 PM
great job everyone! thank you for taking the time.

look for a new challenge next weekend.

Thanks again Adam.