Heroes

[Moonrider]

I think the third season started out promising, but the last two episodes undo everything that was making the season interesting. Anti-hero Sylar was great, so was Peter with the bloodlust. HRG never disappoints. Hiro talking to her mother was touching. But then after all that talk about keeping the catalyst safe blablabla Hiro just got his ass handed to him like an idiot. Sylar turn back evil just like that, while Peter lost his powers and coolness entirely. They need to start focusing on ordinary people with amazing abilities again, not convoluting themselves with ridiculous conspiracies and family feuds.

[Lovecraft13]

I think the third season started out promising, but the last two episodes undo everything that was making the season interesting.

Yeah, I agree with that. It definitely was an intriguing season premier. I just don't understand why the writers kept backtracking with all of their characterizations. Sylar's growth felt too inorganic-- almost like the writers weren't comparing notes with each other. Same with Elle. One episode, she's seeking help from Claire, and like two episodes later, she's trying to kill her.

Forward action is good and all, just not at the expense of the characters.

[JasonM]

Think of it like the xmen. Conspiracies and action are great, but then a return to more interpersonal story is needed too. They just need a balance. The beginning of season 1 I thought was slow. I actually liked season 2 forgiving that it was rushed, and while season three hasn't been stellar, I still think it's been enjoyable. They just need to keep doing what they've been doing - limit the main cast to a few so pair it down some, Keep the use of powers to important scenes (have scenes driven by characters, not excuses to use powers).

The whole "we can make powers!" story has a lot of potential, and by placing Nathan opposite of Peter, I think we have a far more interesting dynamic.

Sylar is best as the unpredictable boogieman. You don't know if he'll kill you for your power or save you, his agenda is his own.

Lastly, I don't think the time trvel is the problem everyone else thinks it is. Hiro understands that the power can't be used to undo the big events, it's mostly used for information gathering (be it from the past or the future) and that form of time travel I don't mind.

I don't know, overall this is still a show I enjoy the most to watch and look forward to.

[Biofungus]

Sylar is best as the unpredictable boogieman. You don't know if he'll kill you for your power or save you, his agenda is his own.

The problem is, now he IS too predictable. The hunger was about the insatiable need to gain new powers. Now that he's learned how to do it WITHOUT killing, there was no real reason to do so. And now the writers are basically forcing him to cause "collateral damage" for no rhyme or reason.

I liked him better as a Magneto type villain. He has no qualms about killing, but without a really good reason to do so, it's just not worth the time and effort. If it was just about seeing blood/making others bleed (which seems to be more of his motivation now, rather than just gaining new powers) he could go use that "telekinetic handgun" power (that he got from the second guy after Elle saved him) and go shoot rats in an alley or something.

I'm sorry, but you don't make the good guys seem "gooder" by making the bad guys so absurdedly bad (a great example of this type of crap writing is "The Patriot" with Mel Gibson. As bad as the things that his character did, they always seemed justified by how over the top bad Jason Isaacs' character was).

[galmando]

They need to start focusing on ordinary people with amazing abilities again, not convoluting themselves with ridiculous conspiracies and family feuds.

exactly this is what season 1 was all about, it felt like it was set in the real world, given the nature of show, whereas now, it doesnt.

as daft as this may sound it feels too sci-fi.

action was all part of the story season 1, not for just for the excuse of having it. heck, that kick as fight between Peter and Sylar in Five Years Gone was kick ass, and we didnt even see it!!! if that makes sense, it's almost like showing the Alien at the end of Signs, ruined the suspense.

and it seems like the only human being is Ando, and i'm worried he'll be given a power soon too. least he'll have a good reason. the whole 'Light' that was the catylist made no sense. all the characters have learnt how to use their powers, when do you realise you can transfer 'Light' if it can only be done once, how exactly does it act as a catylist (i'll take decent pseudo-science exlplanation), how does Arthur know to just place his hands over the formula to make it work. why is Mohinder a d!ck.

i'm assuming Arthur knew Hiro would be the catylist eventually as it would explain why he never took his power originally.

it may not sound like it but i do like this show, it's just got so many unexplainable events that its hard not to think 'was this written the week before it was aired?'

[Biofungus]

"...written the week before it was aired"

Ha! No.


It was written two weeks before. You forgot to leave them time to film it ;)

:p


I think you're spot on about Arthur knowing Hiro would gain the light. The problem with that though, is it smacks of the "writer can make any character know whatever he wants, no matter how absurd because the writer controls ALL the variables." IOW, it lacks genuine creativity :)

[galmando]

It was written two weeks before. You forgot to leave them time to film it ;)

:p




D'oh!

[Moonrider]

"...written the week before it was aired"

Ha! No.


It was written two weeks before. You forgot to leave them time to film it ;)

:p


Well, they certainly didn't spend a lot of time on special effects.

[Lovecraft13]

I think the only reason why I'm sticking with the season is Brea Grant's tatter tots...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/Lovecraft13/grant.jpg

[Buckyrig]

By the way, where the Hell is Molly? :huh:

[pi0trov]

By the way, where the Hell is Molly? :huh:
Well, Suresh and Parkman are taking care.... oh crap. :laugh:

Maybe she ran off to live with Micah and his cousin. Gotta be safer than hangin out with the "heroes".

[Gonzogoose]

By the way, where the Hell is Molly? :huh:

They covered that at the beginning of the season. They sent her off somewhere she'd be safe.

[secret-identity]

By the way, where the Hell is Molly? :huh:

And why has Peter never again mentioned that chick he went into the future with in season 2?

[Jasen Smith]

cause it never really happened.
The Peter we know is actually the Peter from the past.
See, Peter from the future went to the past to get Peter and then educate him on his powers to make him ultimate Peter then replaced present Peter with Past Peter so Future Peter can get laid by Present Peter's chick....that was easy.

[rummblestrips]

cause it never really happened.
The Peter we know is actually the Peter from the past.
See, Peter from the future went to the past to get Peter and then educate him on his powers to make him ultimate Peter then replaced present Peter with Past Peter so Future Peter can get laid by Present Peter's chick....that was easy.


..... i want my mommy.....

[Buckyrig]

They "covered" that at the beginning of the season. They sent her off somewhere she'd be safe.

Fixed. ;)

I think it's just more nonsense that goes to my theory that they don't plan very much of this thing.

[Jasen Smith]

I wish they never found out who the exploding man would actually be. That or when they did to reveal that the 2-3 companies had a huge cover up and a war of heroes vs villians would be the next thing...

If this is where they are going this season..it isnt working.

It seems like the first 5-7 eps wre going towards a certain plot then they change the plot and then they change the plot again.

What was the point of the eclipse?
What was the point of Hiro and Claire going back in time to get the catalyst?
I think the show isnt making sense because Hiro kept going back in time and changing the plot.

[Biofungus]

So to recap:

Heroes Season 3: Mohinder's a dick and Hiro's an idiot.


:p

[Buckyrig]

So to recap:

Heroes Season 3: Mohinder's a dick and Hiro's an idiot.


:p

Sylar's a flake.

[Biofungus]

Sylar's a flake.
Weeeellll...

That part hasn't been beaten into the viewers just quite yet. Give it a few more episodes though :happy:

[Jasen Smith]

I read somewhere online...maybe on the heroes site, that the creator planned the first season and they kind of winged the next two.
They plotted out the second season but the writers strike killed it and they quickly scrambled to rewrite events for season 3.

Hopefully this will pick up...Im watching it until the end