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The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 10:34 PM
I'm designing characters for my comic Love Song for Polyhymnia, one of the women needs to define both beauty and sex appeal and I'm wondering how you define them?

Who is the most beautiful woman?

Who is the sexiest woman?

What are the differences?

Is there someone who defines both?

My tastes in women aren't really appropriate for this character, so I thought I'd pose this question and try to understand more conventional tastes in women better.

Calloway
06-21-2008, 10:42 PM
I like cute. Like next door neighbor cute. Chloe from smallville cute.

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Same, but for black women. That was why I need help. Thandie Newton is yummy.

Calloway
06-21-2008, 10:45 PM
Beauty in relation to anything I go for cute.


I think Pam Anderson is ugly as all get out but many consider that sexy. Fake boobs, make up from hell.

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 10:48 PM
Its odd because I just looked up 2 different lists "most beautiful women" and "sexiest" women. Angelina Jolie was waaaaaaay higher on sexiest women even though I think of her as a more "beautiful" type, and Pam anderson was on the beautiful list(even waaaaaay higher than Angelina Jolie) but wasn't even mentioned on sexy.

Calloway
06-21-2008, 10:52 PM
Jolie is too over the top in looks for me. Almost not real. She's far from cute to me.

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 10:54 PM
Yeah, she isn't cute to me, either, but when people talk about her it isn't sexualized. It's how perfect her lips supposedly are and how beautiful her eyes supposedly are, where as pam anderson was a playboy model and is mostly just known for her breasts.

Calloway
06-21-2008, 11:08 PM
she has no hips.

Biofungus
06-21-2008, 11:12 PM
Pam looked *great* in her early Playboy pictorials. No boob job, natural curves, and a really cute face.

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 11:12 PM
She who? pam? is that why she isn't called sexy?

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 11:13 PM
Pam looked *great* in her early Playboy pictorials. No boob job, natural curves, and a really cute face.

See, I never thought so, so help me out here. who else do you think is just totally perfect physically either in a sexualized way or a just down right beautiful way?

Biofungus
06-21-2008, 11:22 PM
Have you seen some of Pam's earliest pictorials (early 90's I believe)? Very natural, very sexy "girl next door".

Although she wouldn't necessarily be in my "top ten", I think I'd have to go with Michelle Pfeiffer as one of the tops. To me she's always had a graceful beauty to her. So much so that while I think of her as absolutely beautiful, it almost behooves me to think of her in any sexual manner (including shear attractiveness).

But I don't like going just by looks. I tend to lean more towards women with a good sense of humor. Like Jenny McCarthy is pretty, but she can also be a big goof, which I kind of like. Anne Hathaway, she has a great sense of humor and an elegant aire about her.

But I think you mentioned black women? Vanessa Williams, man those eyes! There are also a lot of women I see in passing. TV, magazines, just going out shopping, unfortunately, I can't really quantify them for you since I never get more than a lucky eyeful...

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 11:32 PM
Interesting list. I've seen some of pam's earliest work and stand by my statement.

I like "cute" black girls, I think Vanessa Williams looks stunning but not really what I go for, I'm more into Thandie Williams types.

I'm thinking maybe age plays a part in this because you named people my father would have named, except jenny mccarthy and vanessa williams.

My brother said Kira Knightley is the most beautiful woman ever and I look at her and don't see it at all.

Biofungus
06-21-2008, 11:43 PM
I've also thought Piper Perabo was a real cutie.

Alicia Keyes is gorgeous. Rosario Dawson is sexy too.

The Anti-crest
06-21-2008, 11:47 PM
I adored Rosario in Clerks 2. Alicia keyes is good looking but not what I'm going for with this character. I need someone who is like Boom chck wah wah meets "all the women want to be her"

Biofungus
06-22-2008, 12:30 AM
Halle Berry.

The Anti-crest
06-22-2008, 12:45 AM
halle is devine.

I think I over looked the obvious though: Marilyn Monroe. She isn't my taste at all but she is one of the most recognized sex symbols who even straight women adored.

Multisync143
06-22-2008, 01:40 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfHlA3fmJG0

Snow white in this music video is crazy sexy.

As for beautiful black ladies, i humbly submit Gabrielle Union http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005517/

Calloway
06-22-2008, 02:16 AM
The chick who sang "Unbreak my heart". I also fancied her.

Biofungus
06-22-2008, 04:03 AM
Toni Braxton. I was just reading about her today, she has some kind of congenital heart condition which is why she hasn't been doing as much in the past few years.

DarkKni9hT
06-22-2008, 08:59 AM
To coin an adage, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What works for some, does not for others. It's a very subjective term and completely at the discretion of the person making the judgement.

Sexy on the other hand, is all about carriage and stature. How a woman holds herself and moves defines her sexiness. It's an attitude more than a tangible measure.

If you want beutiful and sexy al wrapped up into one package, for me it's Lynda Carter all the way. Followed closely by Jaclyn Smith. Angelina is sexy but to me not quite beautiful. There's something about her face that's always bugged me but I can't say what it is.

Artsta
06-22-2008, 01:28 PM
if you're talking mainly black chicks i gotta agree with bio and say halle berry tops the list for being both beautiful and sexy. i also think carmen ejogo (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252238/) seems to have a bit of that halle berry flare about her. i could just be mesmerized by her ancient though...

for white chicks i nominate chalize theron. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000234/ she's beautiful, classy, and freakin' hott.

for spanish chicks i nominate salma hayek. i don't think there's anyone else that really compares... maybe jennifer lopez.

other chicks i'd nominate would be anne hathaway, kira knightley, and zoe saldana (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0757855/). they're amazingly elegant. however i can't say i find them sexy really... but the way they carry themselves is amazingly lovely.

Artsta
06-22-2008, 01:39 PM
I think I over looked the obvious though: Marilyn Monroe. She isn't my taste at all but she is one of the most recognized sex symbols who even straight women adored.

if you wanna go old school, i'd say audrey hepburn.

Calloway
06-22-2008, 01:51 PM
if you wanna go old school, i'd say audrey hepburn.


Yeah, Marylin is a Pam to me. Audrey definitly the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. Grace Kelly also had a beauty.

It wasn't just the looks but the way they carried themselves. I like open hearted people and not narcissistic.

William Blankenship
06-22-2008, 02:23 PM
Oh jeez, since the only women I can think of off hand are porn stars......

Veronica Zemanova is Sexy.

Tera Patrick is Beautiful.

And, the sad thing is, both have more of a Hollywood beauty than Angelinalips will ever have.

3!LL

Mr.Musgrave
06-22-2008, 03:04 PM
Audrey definitly the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.


Agreed.

The Anti-crest
06-22-2008, 09:29 PM
if you're talking mainly black chicks i gotta agree with bio and say halle berry tops the list for being both beautiful and sexy. i also think carmen ejogo (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0252238/) seems to have a bit of that halle berry flare about her. i could just be mesmerized by her ancient though...

for white chicks i nominate chalize theron. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000234/ she's beautiful, classy, and freakin' hott.

for spanish chicks i nominate salma hayek. i don't think there's anyone else that really compares... maybe jennifer lopez.

other chicks i'd nominate would be anne hathaway, kira knightley, and zoe saldana (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0757855/). they're amazingly elegant. however i can't say i find them sexy really... but the way they carry themselves is amazingly lovely.

Yeah, I wasn't very clear, sorry. I'm mostly looking for white women, I can come up with beautiful black women but when it comes to white women I'm pretty much lost.

Thanks for the help, though, and that goes for everybody.

compton
06-22-2008, 09:40 PM
sexy is definatly an additude and not a look.
beautiful is a look thing but is still really subjective. I think one of the few women to do all three (cute included ) well is natalie portman.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z270/erikkocanierro/female%20celebs/nataliep/E-2_162-Natalie_Portman.jpg

maybe gwen steffani

rummblestrips
06-22-2008, 09:54 PM
I think sexy is purely a physical thing while beauty, though having a huge physical aspect, has just as much to do with personality. Kindness that's reflected in their eyes, good nature that's reflected in a smile, empathy that's reflected in body language. There's women I know that are absolutely drop dead gorgeous because they're just really nice people, not just cute.

This might just be a girly way of looking at things though. :laugh:

Calloway
06-22-2008, 10:00 PM
I think sexy is purely a physical thing while beauty, though having a huge physical aspect, has just as much to do with personality. Kindness that's reflected in their eyes, good nature that's reflected in a smile, empathy that's reflected in body language. There's women I know that are absolutely drop dead gorgeous because they're just really nice people, not just cute.

This might just be a girly way of looking at things though. :laugh:

Dammit, I must be a girl cause I agree! Ugh...time to call the doctor and change my name to LilGreenGal :cry:

Biofungus
06-22-2008, 10:02 PM
Greenie: No, you're just a pansy

I think Joanne is a very good example of what this thread is about though :)

Calloway
06-22-2008, 10:04 PM
No, this is a thread about sexy vs beautiful. Not Canada vs. USA. Silly mark. :nyah:

Biofungus
06-22-2008, 10:07 PM
Remember: I like women with a sense of humor, so Joanne has a leg up in my book (Canadian or not) :)

Calloway
06-22-2008, 10:10 PM
Me too, cause Lord knows I don't have a sense of humor.

I want a girl who is a chatterbox, foward, funny and always having a good outlook. Bad thing is many like that around here are either a) drugged out b)taken or c) completely out of it with reality. Being my idea of cute helps too :)

MattWaterman
06-23-2008, 10:50 AM
Well, rather than just popping out examples, it might be helpful to break it down to the semantics of the issue As in: Sexy implies a sexual result whereas Beautiful implies something along the lines of magnificent or awe-striking. A waterfall can be beautiful but it's rarely sexy, for example. To boot, the same woman can be both beautiful and sexy--they're not mutually exclusive. A woman can be beautiful when waking up in the morning or entering the room in an evening dress and then, five minutes later, appear sexy when unbuttoning said pajamas or evening dress. Presentation at the moment, would be the defining characteristic, IMO...

Calloway
06-23-2008, 10:58 AM
Matt, your trying to bring sexy back again....quit it :laugh:

Screeny
06-23-2008, 11:03 AM
Much like porn & erotica, sexy or beautiful is all a matter of lighting.......







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Screeny
07-05-2008, 03:55 PM
What the....????!!!!

Calloway
07-05-2008, 03:59 PM
My my my.... :blink:

The Spirit
07-05-2008, 03:59 PM
Katherine Heigl epitomizes Sexy and Beautiful.

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07-05-2008, 04:00 PM
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Ditto.... spam bots!!

Anyway, beautiful, sexy and white.. I'd go for Tina Fey, hands down. Cute, sexy, beautiful and funny.

rummblestrips
07-05-2008, 04:23 PM
bwaahahahahaha!
That's hilarious!

Imboden
07-05-2008, 04:52 PM
Tina Fey
Carla Gugino

Khuth
07-05-2008, 06:16 PM
http://wallpapers.pixxp.com/wallpapers/75/Kelli_Garner.jpg

Kelli Garner - she has a good range of being sexy, beautiful and cute (As seen in Lars and the Real Girl)

mrwewiii
07-05-2008, 06:54 PM
oh, never mind

dano
07-06-2008, 10:14 AM
I think it breaks down into 3 categories: beautiful, cute, and sexy

Beautiful incorporates standard measurable proportions that are commonly regarded in all cultures as 'attractive'
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1083271/

Cute incorporates proportions that are closer to youthful qualities like a round face, larger eyes, etc. Also, non traditional 'beauty' features that make ones appearance more unique.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000207/

Sexy is purely an attitude and behavioral thing. It can be added or subtracted from Cute or Beautiful. Much more subjective quality than the previous two.

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07-07-2008, 05:02 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:19 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:20 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:21 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:26 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:27 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:30 PM
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07-24-2008, 06:36 PM
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07-24-2008, 07:28 PM
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