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omega sentry
06-06-2008, 11:38 PM
why do comics have this pretty awsome cover but when you open them the art doesn't match.

I mean would it not make since to use the same artist for your cover rather than try to make it flashy in the front and no cream filling on the twinky!!! :blink:

Jon Dahl
06-06-2008, 11:43 PM
Because it's expensive to have pay an artist to do cover quality work throughout the entire book, and creators are wanting to make a profit.

Calloway
06-06-2008, 11:48 PM
It's an age old sales gimmick for impulse buyers. I remember the disappointment in the batmans with Kelley Jones covers only to open and find 60s style art inside.

Biofungus
06-07-2008, 02:15 AM
why do comics have this pretty awsome cover but when you open them the art doesn't match.

I mean would it not make since to use the same artist for your cover rather than try to make it flashy in the front and no cream filling on the twinky!!! :blink:
You don't post in over 6 months, and this is the best return post you can come up with? Pffffft...

Wasabe
06-07-2008, 07:52 AM
I've been griping about this for years and I'm on both sides of the issue.

There is nothing worse than having a cover by Jim Lee and then you open the book to find interiors by Yank Wankerman.

On the other hand if Yank Wankerman wants to sell books it might be a good investment on the front end to pay Jim Lee to do the cover.

So should I be idealistic and proclaim that I would never do such a thing?
Or keep the option open in hopes of making a lot of sales?

Calloway
06-07-2008, 10:13 AM
Sometimes there are words with the pictures and they are good.

omega sentry
06-07-2008, 02:44 PM
You don't post in over 6 months, and this is the best return post you can come up with? Pffffft...


yeah you get dahl <--- Pon intended--- when you grow up find a pretty wife and go on with having a life....

that good enough far yah! :laugh:


Ps: yeah haven't forgot you picking on me :p but it's all fun and games right??? right...

anyways,

Because it's expensive to have pay an artist to do cover quality work throughout the entire book, and creators are wanting to make a profit.

sounds like egotesticle artist, or would it be the publishers fault for allowing such a thing....

I get the profit part but what I don't get artistic and moral value of it.
Isn't that also like a slap to the artist that tells the story --like saying your not good enough but I need you to tell the story.

I guess in the end a dollar is a dollar. :(

kdmelrose
06-07-2008, 02:58 PM
"Egotesticle"?

:blink:

I don't understand this gripe: It's not as if the publishers are trying to pull one over on the readers. The solicitation text generally tells you who's handling the cover, and who's drawing the interiors. Failing that, you can ... y'know ... open the book.

While I would love to see (more) sequential work by the likes of James Jean, Jo Chen, Marko Djurdjevic, Jon Foster and a few others, I'm perfectly fine with just seeing their art on covers.

I don't see it as a "slap" at the interior artist, either. Great covers and great sequential storytelling are two different things, requiring two different skill sets. Some people can do one better than the other. A few can do both well.

Moonrider
06-07-2008, 03:14 PM
Maybe they should put warnings on covers now, "Buyers beware! This book has sucky interior art or not on par with the awesome cover."

Calloway
06-07-2008, 03:24 PM
To be fair some stores (at least around here) will slap 2 month old or older issues in a bag and you cannot open those or sometimes you need the worker to come and open it.

Regardless of if the cover artist is different from the interior artist sometimes putting the names on the cover is just that, putting names on a cover. Who's to say someone likes a cover but doesn't know the artist and his sig is either cut off or not readable?

There are also a lot of good covers with crap filler artists. You can't just make assumptions about why someone would be mad about this. I was back when I didn't know who Kelley Jones was and I had bought back issues of the series of which I could not remove from the bag.

That was in high school and since then I've studied more on who does what before buying (having the net is a big help there ) and I realizing marketing schemes a bit better now.

As I said before sometimes you can get one with crap art but a good story.

Calloway
06-07-2008, 03:25 PM
"Egotesticle"?

:blink:

I don't understand this gripe: It's not as if the publishers are trying to pull one over on the readers.

That's exactly what they are trying to do with a fill in book or transition book. It's pretty transparent.

kdmelrose
06-07-2008, 03:31 PM
That's exactly what they are trying to do with a fill in book or transition book. It's pretty transparent.

How? They're not hiding artists. (What's a "transition book"?)

BIGROD
06-07-2008, 03:46 PM
I've been griping about this for years and I'm on both sides of the issue.

There is nothing worse than having a cover by Jim Lee and then you open the book to find interiors by Yank Wankerman.

On the other hand if Yank Wankerman wants to sell books it might be a good investment on the front end to pay Jim Lee to do the cover.

So should I be idealistic and proclaim that I would never do such a thing?
Or keep the option open in hopes of making a lot of sales?

Who's this Yank Wankerman you speak of and where can I see more of his work? :laugh:

kdmelrose
06-07-2008, 03:48 PM
I'm not sure you want to see his "work."

Jon Dahl
06-07-2008, 04:17 PM
Who's this Yank Wankerman you speak of and where can I see more of his work? :laugh:

Matt Waterman? :huh:

Mark Bertolini
06-13-2008, 03:06 PM
I believe Yank Wankerman worked on a book called "Egotesticle"

Phatman
06-13-2008, 03:32 PM
Egotesticle is a skrull.










...Isn't Yank Wankerman Rob Liefeld's pen name?

















...runs away after throwing Liefeld brick into thread

Phatman
06-13-2008, 03:33 PM
I believe Yank Wankerman worked on a book called "Egotesticle"

I had the mini-series: Egotesticle: The Living Gonad.

jeffo46
06-13-2008, 04:07 PM
Didn't he also illustrate Porn Star Comics featuring Dick Hurtz?

MattWaterman
06-25-2008, 01:44 PM
Woah! Egotesticle actually does exist. And he makes...well...pictures anyway...

:blink: :blink: :blink: :laugh:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=114838549

The DarkMind
06-25-2008, 02:27 PM
why do comics have this pretty awsome cover but when you open them the art doesn't match.

its kind of like girls wearing push-up bras. just something you have to deal with and always expect the outer appearance to not match whats underneath. that way there's less disappointment. in the rare cases it does match, you'll appreciate it all that much more.

John Rauch
06-26-2008, 02:56 AM
What if some artists are just more suited for covers and some are more suited for story-telling?

MARS
06-26-2008, 10:10 PM
What if some artists are just more suited for covers and some are more suited for story-telling?

Now THAT just makes too much sense.

M.

The DarkMind
06-27-2008, 11:06 AM
What if some artists are just more suited for covers and some are more suited for story-telling?

BLASPHEMY! how could you possibly imply that some people are better at pin-up work and others are better at sequential work? its... its... unheard of i say!


















wait... never mind. i'm better at pin-ups then sequentials. you're right. THIS TIME! :man:

Nick Pitarra
07-01-2008, 12:59 AM
"Egotesticle"?

:blink:

I don't understand this gripe: It's not as if the publishers are trying to pull one over on the readers. The solicitation text generally tells you who's handling the cover, and who's drawing the interiors. Failing that, you can ... y'know ... open the book.

While I would love to see (more) sequential work by the likes of James Jean, Jo Chen, Marko Djurdjevic, Jon Foster and a few others, I'm perfectly fine with just seeing their art on covers.

I don't see it as a "slap" at the interior artist, either. Great covers and great sequential storytelling are two different things, requiring two different skill sets. Some people can do one better than the other. A few can do both well.

Qouted for truth! 2 completely different art processes.

~nick

William Blankenship
07-01-2008, 01:26 AM
I open the bags up and look inside. If the interiors aren't good, I don't buy it, unless someone says, "This is the greatest story ever" and then I ask to borrow theirs before deciding whether to purchase. But I don't have any IRL comic fan friends, so that never happens. But the point is, open the bag, look inside, see if you like it. If the shop owner complains that you're taking them out, accuse him of supporting false advertising, kick him in the shins, and when he's down piss in his ear.

And that's how you resolve that situation.

Peace,
3!LL