Weirdest Police Chase in history.

[Nu Jin]

Garden City PD (http://youtube.com/watch?v=XSLBtm__aKw)

Did some research on this. Everyone speculated that this was a fake. I've came to my conclusions.

Saw this on a TruTV show this past weekend.


:eek: :eek:

[W. Smith]

What are you conclusions? :blink:

[JAQ]

How about: It's easy to get confused in the dark. :)

[W. Smith]

It's easy to get confused in the dark. :)

That's what she said. :har:

[Jon Dahl]

It's not fake.
Look at the left side of the fence, it's broken (One minute thirty-four seconds). The driver hit the fence, it layed down, and then popped back up.
The officer should have kept going, the fence would have fallen for him too.

[Nu Jin]

It's not fake.
Look at the left side of the fence, it's broken (One minute thirty-four seconds). The driver hit the fence, it layed down, and then popped back up.
The officer should have kept going, the fence would have fallen for him too.


It was reported that the fence was never broken. :blink:

One of the studies that I've came across (http://supernaturalparanormal.com/?p=220)

Many have speculated that this was a fake, but it was never proven to be so.

[Jon Dahl]

It was reported that the fence was never broken. :blink:

One of the studies that I've came across (http://supernaturalparanormal.com/?p=220)

Many have speculated that this was a fake, but it was never proven to be so.

Pause the video 1:34, you can see it for yourself, that fence is broken on the left side.
My father was a police officer for twelve years and I've heard a lot of stories.
That "ghost" car tells me the cops made a mistake and they're embarrassed about it.

[Nu Jin]

Pause the video 1:34, you can see it for yourself, that fence is broken on the left side.
My father was a police officer for twelve years and I've heard a lot of stories.
That "ghost" car tells me the cops made a mistake and they're embarrassed about it.


And everyone came to that same conclusion, but that doesn't mean that it's a fake. NO REPORTS STATED THAT THE FENCE WAS BROKEN!!!

[Newt]

So it seems more likely to you that a ghost was drunk driving than that the broken fence went unreported? Who's writing these 'reports' anyhow?

[Jon Dahl]

And everyone came to that same conclusion, but that doesn't mean that it's a fake. NO REPORTS STATED THAT THE FENCE WAS BROKEN!!!

Okay, the reports are wrong. You think cops don't get embarrassed? :laugh:

Which "Garden City" is it, which state?

If it's Garden City, Kansas I'll find the fence myself and take pictures of it.

[Jon Dahl]

I took my own screenshot of the driver. 21 seconds in.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z188/jhdahl/GhostCarDriver.jpg

Compare to the one posted on the internet. :laugh:

http://www.supernaturalparanormal.com/arc/ghcar.jpg

[Nu Jin]

Okay, the reports are wrong. You think cops don't get embarrassed? :laugh:

Which "Garden City" is it, which state?

If it's Garden City, Kansas I'll find the fence myself and take pictures of it.

Your conclusion, then.

But I find it pretty baffling that they would show this video on National TV just to say that this is a fake, and while everyone came to those same conclusions that you've stated, there was no facts that pointed to say likewise.

So......if there are no facts about this being fake, then tell me......how can this be wrong if you're one of the same people who came up with the similar conclusion that you have?

Hmmmmmm?

[bluelinesmoke]

People will believe what they want to be true. There are so many possible explanations for this that don't involve the supernatural bending of physics. I would guess that the fence was either broken, or bent some how to let him through, but I would believe that the car was a hologram before I would jump to the conclusion that it was a ghost car.

[Nu Jin]

I took my own screenshot of the driver. 21 seconds in.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z188/jhdahl/GhostCarDriver.jpg

Compare to the one posted on the internet. :laugh:

http://www.supernaturalparanormal.com/arc/ghcar.jpg


And you don't see the similarity in those pics? :huh:

Isn't that contridicting? :confused:

And to answer your question......

Garden City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_City)

Choose one of them and try to come up with another conclusion. ;)

[Nu Jin]

People will believe what they want to be true. There are so many possible explanations for this that don't involve the supernatural bending of physics. I would guess that the fence was either broken, or bent some how to let him through, but I would believe that the car was a hologram before I would jump to the conclusion that it was a ghost car.


Okay......

Soooo......

LOL Solved!
Pause the video 1:48.

You can see the fence, very clearly, hanging down broken on the left hand side of the screen, he piled through it, leaving a broken fence behind.
It makes no sense that this would be on TV as some sort of mystery.

This video has baffled me since I first witnessed it on "worlds wildest police chases" two years ago. I have tried researching this however the PD made it difficult by censoring out the date of the video. There are 12 states w/ a Garden City making archives hard to research. It just seems unusual to me how the dust settles at the fence and there is no remaining vibration in the fencing 5 seconds after the impact. But like everyone will say, "the only explanation is that he went under it"

Pretty obvious what happened...he just went under the chain link fence. They're usually just tied to the posts with some wire, he hit the fence broke the wires at the side but it stayed attached at the top, and it slammed back down as he passed under...You can even see the fence still flopping back and forth as the cop pulls up to it. Cop coulda went through just as easy but probably stopped just on instinct. [/url]

[quote=Antharis79]That is very fake... Look at the timeboard at the upper-left. "at simingly super-natural speed" - LOL. The camera is fasten up - nothing more!

And the "past-through-the-fence" - At the moment when the car disappeares it was much lefter then the view through the police-car-window... it might simply pass the fence much more left (where the fence ends) and the backlights are visible seconds after from a greater distance through the police-car-window.

These similar conclusions what everyone said here makes it right versus the facts......

More studies (Common knowledge) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal)

Paranormal is often used to denote unusual experiences that lack an obvious scientific explanation. Stories relating to paranormal phenomena are widespread in popular culture and folklore, but the United States National Science Foundation has stated that mainstream science does not support paranormal beliefs.


And yet, what I underlined was pretty much making my point. Most (NOT ALL) will write it off as something that can NEVER happen, but in some cases, no facts are provided that says otherwise.

[Jon Dahl]

Your conclusion, then.

But I find it pretty baffling that they would show this video on National TV just to say that this is a fake, and while everyone came to those same conclusions that you've stated, there was no facts that pointed to say likewise.

So......if there are no facts about this being fake, then tell me......how can this be wrong if you're one of the same people who came up with the similar conclusion that you have?

Hmmmmmm?

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here, so I'll break down what I am saying.

Have you ever seen a ghost?
Have you ever seen someone make a mistake?
Have you ever seen someone be embarrassed?


And you don't see the similarity in those pics? :huh:

Isn't that contridicting? :confused:

And to answer your question......

Garden City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_City)

Choose one of them and try to come up with another conclusion. ;)

No, I see no similarity in those pics, other than they're grainy.
I don't see how posting a picture of a person in a car contridicts me not believing it's a "ghost" in a car.

The reason the video was played on national TV is because it's public property.

I do not believe in "ghosts", and if I did, I'd hope they'd have better taste in cars. :laugh:

[bluelinesmoke]

what do you mean? What are the facts? Why is multiple people coming up with a logical conclusion detrimental to the argument?

A car running over a fence would be a pretty mundane car chase, but a "ghost car" makes for good TV. I haven't seen the fence, and the so called supernatural aspect conveniently happened when the camera was pointed away. There is no evidence to examine.

[Nu Jin]

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here, so I'll break down what I am saying.

Have you ever seen a ghost?
Have you ever seen someone make a mistake?
Have you ever seen someone be embarrassed?

1. Yes I have.....
2. Everybody does, but that doesn't explains this.....
3. A common emotion that is embedded in the human psyche.


No, I see no similarity in those pics, other than they're grainy.
I don't see how posting a picture of a person in a car contridicts me not believing it's a "ghost" in a car.

They have posted the same thing that you have posted on the TruTv show. You just stated that the picture is grainy, but yet TruTV showed the shot almost clearly. That shot you've made plus the shot from the paranormal site look similar, so yes it is contridicting.

The reason the video was played on national TV is because it's public property.

I do not believe in "ghosts", and if I did, I'd hope they'd have better taste in cars. :laugh:

Not knockinig your beliefs. That is fine, but it is YOUR BELIEF. That doesn't make it a FACT!!!

You can say that you don't believe in trees, but does that concludes that it is a fact? Especially one can just go outside and see that they are TREES around him/her? The same goes here. I CAN not believe in most things in life. Many have chosen what lifestyle that will benefit them in their lives. Most go in, head first, and not know what they're getting themselves into. But in the end, it is out there, whether you believe it, or not.

[Nu Jin]

what do you mean? What are the facts? Why is multiple people coming up with a logical conclusion detrimental to the argument?

A car running over a fence would be a pretty mundane car chase, but a "ghost car" makes for good TV. I haven't seen the fence, and the so called supernatural aspect conveniently happened when the camera was pointed away. There is no evidence to examine.


I have provided links, statements, and analysis on what I stated. It is up to you to figure out what I said. It is all there.

And if a "ghost car" makes for good TV, then you should check out "Ghost Hunters" and even meet Jason Hawes at Dragoncon and tell him the same thing you have told me.

You can go to this site here (http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/) and tell them yourself. ;)

[Amadarwin]

You can say that you don't believe in trees, but does that concludes that it is a fact? Especially one can just go outside and see that they are TREES around him/her? The same goes here.
uh..not exactly. Anyone (believer or non) can go outside and see a tree. Hardly the same as not believing in ghosts...

[bluelinesmoke]

I have provided links, statements, and analysis on what I stated. It is up to you to figure out what I said. It is all there.

That's a fairly cop out answer. Your link was a definition of paranormal. I know what paranormal means. What does that have to do with whether or not this car was paranormal. Your statements are mostly from people that support my position that this was an ordinary car chase. I suppose if it is up to me to figure out what you're saying- I'm failing miserably.

And if a "ghost car" makes for good TV, then you should check out "Ghost Hunters" and even meet Jason Hawes at Dragoncon and tell him the same thing you have told me.

I would, but to what effect. I'm sure many many people have told them the same thing, some people believe because they want to believe. No amount of logic will change the minds of people who don't want to have their minds changed.

[Jon Dahl]

Not knockinig your beliefs. That is fine, but it is YOUR BELIEF. That doesn't make it a FACT!!!

You can say that you don't believe in trees, but does that concludes that it is a fact? Especially one can just go outside and see that they are TREES around him/her? The same goes here. I CAN not believe in most things in life. Many have chosen what lifestyle that will benefit them in their lives. Most go in, head first, and not know what they're getting themselves into. But in the end, it is out there, whether you believe it, or not.

I never once said my beliefs were facts. By very definition it's quite clear that I've stated my opinion and nothing more.

.... Trees? :huh:

Never heard of them. I went outside but couldn't find any.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z188/jhdahl/SANY0023.jpg

I went back inside and caught this little guy, is it a "tree"? :huh:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z188/jhdahl/Ghost.jpg

I refuse to accept the existence of these "trees" you speak of! :nyah:

[Nu Jin]

uh..not exactly. Anyone (believer or non) can go outside and see a tree. Hardly the same as not believing in ghosts...


It is the same because I was approached not to long ago by a person who wasn't a believer in LIFE (trees, water, air that we breathe). Weird things are out there, and weird things can come from us humans in general. The same holds true to Ghost, and the paranormal activities, but the average human being will cast someone who have studied this phemenon for years crazy, or weird. Judging doesn't make it right. It just makes you partially ignorant to the subject at hand. Many will say "oh that's not true, there's no such thing as ghost" because maybe they haven't experienced this activity before. maybe they have came up with their own conclusion that it doesn't exist.......a common thing for a human to conclude amongst themselves, but does it make it right? If so, how? By opinion versus facts about the paranormal? Can many find their own conclusions to a common problem versus a paranormal activity? This extends to common activities (video games, sports, life) to unexplained activities (again life, paranormal, the human psyche, UFOs). One is based on opinionated research, but both are based on FACTS.

[Nu Jin]

That's a fairly cop out answer. Your link was a definition of paranormal. I know what paranormal means. What does that have to do with whether or not this car was paranormal. Your statements are mostly from people that support my position that this was an ordinary car chase. I suppose if it is up to me to figure out what you're saying- I'm failing miserably.

Not a cop out answer. Which leads to...........



I would, but to what effect. I'm sure many many people have told them the same thing, some people believe because they want to believe. No amount of logic will change the minds of people who don't want to have their minds changed.

You just made my point. :thumbs:

[Jon Dahl]

(trees, water, air that we breathe).

Water, air!?

Now you're just making things up. :rolleyes:

[Nu Jin]

I never once said my beliefs were facts. By very definition it's quite clear that I've stated my opinion and nothing more.

But you tried to contest my studies by saying that the video is a fake. Otherwise, this whole conversation wouldn't happen.


.... Trees? :huh:

Never heard of them. I went outside but couldn't find any.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z188/jhdahl/SANY0023.jpg

I went back inside and caught this little guy, is it a "tree"? :huh:
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z188/jhdahl/Ghost.jpg

I refuse to accept the existence of these "trees" you speak of! :nyah:


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Nu Jin]

Water, air!?

Now you're just making things up. :rolleyes:

Then why drink and breathe, then??

Are......you some type of phenemon that is walking this earth? :huh: :confused:

[Jon Dahl]

But you tried to contest my studies by saying that the video is a fake. Otherwise, this whole conversation wouldn't happen.


Really? Because my very first post said:

It's not fake.


What I don't belive is that it is a ghost driving a ghost car. Perhaps it was one of those "trees" you mentioned driving the car?
:eek:

Honestly, I watched the video and gave my opinion to what I thought was a logical answer to how the car got on the other side of the fence.
Nothing more.

[Nu Jin]

The driver hit the fence, it layed down, and then popped back up.
The officer should have kept going, the fence would have fallen for him too.


I was contesting that. That appeared to me you was saying that even though it isn't a fake, it's not real at all. Which lead to me stating......

But you tried to contest my studies by saying that the video is a fake. Otherwise, this whole conversation wouldn't happen.


What I don't belive is that it is a ghost driving a ghost car. Perhaps it was one of those "trees" you mentioned driving the car?

Or was it YOU as a zombie who was driving that night? :huh: :eek:

[Jon Dahl]

Or was it YOU as a zombie who was driving that night? :huh: :eek:

That I'd be more apt to believe. :thumbs:

[Nu Jin]

That I'd be more apt to believe. :thumbs:


:laugh: :laugh:

[Calloway]

Jon, trees do in fact exist as proven by this photo:

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/take5/slideshow/realornot/img_5.jpg

[Toyandgadgetguy]

Everyone knows that ghosts drive horsedrawn carriages.

I believe that the fence gave way to the car. If we had links, all we could prove is that it really was a fence. Fence? Links? Get it? Nah, me either.

The car went under the chain link. It gave enough that it looked like it went right through. That's my guess. Yes, it's only a guess. It's the same guess I had when Stacey Keach first told us the story.

[Nu Jin]

That Jon IS a zombie............

Can this be Jon? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Wz1W_omigwg&feature=related)


Isn't he pretty?

[Calloway]

Everyone knows that ghosts drive horsedrawn carriages.

I believe that the fence gave way to the car. If we had links, all we could prove is that it really was a fence. Fence? Links? Get it? Nah, me either.

The car went under the chain link. It gave enough that it looked like it went right through. That's my guess. Yes, it's only a guess. It's the same guess I had when Stacey Keach first told us the story.


I saw the video last year. It was a loose fence to begin with and it was tilted in.

[Gav Heryng]

Police have released this photofit of the suspect...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2007/10/cosby.jpg

Dis

[Newt]

Crap! They've got me!


What, y'all didn't know I was the ghost of the Cos? What with the hauntin' and the spectral drivin'.

I was also the captain of the Flyin' Dutchman.

[Nu Jin]

Police have released this photofit of the suspect...

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2007/10/cosby.jpg

Dis

Dude.............

Crap! They've got me!


What, y'all didn't know I was the ghost of the Cos? What with the hauntin' and the spectral drivin'.

I was also the captain of the Flyin' Dutchman.

You was a ghost? :huh:

You said you was a Newt.....

What are you now, Geico's new spokesperson?


-LIARRRRRRRRRR-

[Newt]

There's no reason I can't be a newt AND the ghost of Bill Cosby AND the captain of a ghost ship at the same time. You're so closed-minded.

I am not, however, a CGI anthropomorphic Phelsuma grandis with an English accent. That's just silly.

[Nu Jin]

There's no reason I can't be a newt AND the ghost of Bill Cosby AND the captain of a ghost ship at the same time. You're so closed-minded.

I am not, however, a CGI anthropomorphic Phelsuma grandis with an English accent. That's just silly.


So.....

Was THIS you messing with this poor guy?

Newt? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MBlqFncDhlQ)

Newt messing around? (http://youtube.com/watch?v=APNjc9FGFXE)

Newt's identity REVEALED!!! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=yI9870nM0hs&feature=related)

[Newt]

Yes, I am also Linda Blair, a video editing effect, and a guy in black socks and boxers with a sheet over his head.

Do I contradict mysef? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.

[Nu Jin]

Then explain......

THIS (http://youtube.com/watch?v=J27jkkDXVwc) to me.

That poor little boy..... :cry:

Why, OH why did you take that little boy out?

So full of life.............


You........MEANIE!!!!!!!


*Tosses a balded-up piece of paper at Newt* :man:

*Runs away*

[Newt]

Why did you bald up that piece of paper? That sort of thing will come back to *haunt* you, you know!

:cool: I slay me.

[Jasen Smith]

It's funny, I read the thread it sounds interesting I take a peak and read your guys' posts. Good ideas, funny stuff, then usually by the end of the first page the argument starts.

Page 2 comes up and the argument is escalating and getting funny.

Page 3 everyone licks their wounds and come to the conclusion...

...Wonder what page 4 will be like. :w00t:

[Newt]

Page 4 is for make-up sex.

[Nu Jin]

Yeah....

Newt will be having make-up sex with his caretaker..........

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l149/Nu_Jin/Frankie.jpg


Was seen at the Clam with this chica.

[Newt]

Whoa, whoa, whoa!

Did you just call me a pedophile? :mad:

[Nu Jin]

Frankie is 22 years old. :blink:

How is THATcalling you a pedophile? :laugh: :laugh:

[Biofungus]

More like a toonophile. Not that some aren't hot, but you know, have to draw the line somewhere :whistlin:

[Calloway]

Yes, I am also Linda Blair, a video editing effect, and a guy in black socks and boxers with a sheet over his head.

Do I contradict mysef? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.

you are me and they haven't caught on yet either. :har:

[Nu Jin]

you are me and they haven't caught on yet either. :har:
Wait a minute...

He pretends to be a douchebag??

......AWESOME!! :w00t: :thumbs: :nyah: