Tom Cruise video... scary?!?!?

[rummblestrips]

http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress

what the -bleep- is he talking about??!?!

[Knuckles]

Scientology and How Scientologist are the best ever. :yawn:

[spider]

Basically humans are hosts for an aincent race of aliens and only by touching children inappropiately can we be on the path to salvation.

[W. Smith]

If any of you could achieve his state of enlightenement, you could understand better that to be a scientologist is a privedge that has to be earned, and that through the earning of it youe begin to realize that you can in fact shape not only your reality but the reality of others as well...

(this would lead me to believe that the Scarlet Witch and Quiksilver are both scientologists in mutant costume...)

[The-Spirit]

What's so scary about it?

[spider]

That he is so boyishly handsome yet also mentally hilarious? :blink:

[BIGROD]

Hey, you're either "on board, or you're not on board".

[sevans]

Not on board thanks.

[Lovecraft13]

Hey, you're either "on board, or you're not on board".

Does he mean on board the Mothership?

[Newt]

Granted, Scientology is obviously (to non-Scientologists) a contemporary fraud, but its tenets are no more ridiculous than those of any other belief system- they simply lack the hoary respectability of centuries. And Tom's profession of belief, and confidence in his beliefs, is no odder than similar professions by followers of other religions.

I just don't see why people gang up on old Tom and give, say, President Bush (who claims to believe he receives direct communication and advice from God) a free pass on the same sort of thing, especially considering the fact that Tom Cruise, unlike George Bush, is not in a position to do much damage by following his convictions.

[rummblestrips]

What I thought was scary about the whole interview was the fact that he barely blinked and he made little sense most of the time.

[The-Spirit]

I just don't see why people gang up on old Tom and give, say, President Bush (who claims to believe he receives direct communication and advice from God) a free pass on the same sort of thing, especially considering the fact that Tom Cruise, unlike George Bush, is not in a position to do much damage by following his convictions.
Where did Bush ever say he received direct communication and advice from God?
Also, nobody ever ganged up on Bush for his beliefs? :huh:
Not that it's a big deal anyway Bush is a universalist not a Christian but I've never heard him claim Direct communication from God.

[spider]

George wouldn't hand over his hard earned money because he believes in something, he's smart enough to use tax payers money for that. :laugh:

The thing with scientology is you have to pay to be a member, no real religion would require that of you.

[Biofungus]

What I thought was scary about the whole interview was the fact that he barely blinked and he made little sense most of the time.
You haven't seen many of his movies, have you?

[Newt]

Where did Bush ever say he received direct communication and advice from God?
Also, nobody ever ganged up on Bush for his beliefs? :huh:
Not that it's a big deal anyway Bush is a universalist not a Christian but I've never heard him claim Direct communication from God.

It was from an interview early in his first term, I'll have to look it up. He said he prayed for guidance and God told him what to do. And yeah, there was a very little bit of sniping at Bush, but not near what it would have been if he had been, say, a Scientologist or a Muslim or Hindu and claimed his chosen deity had been giving him spoken guidance on matters of policy.

I had never heard Bush referred to as a Universalist or as a non-Christian; is this based on things he has said, or your definitions of those terms?

[Jon Dahl]

Where did Bush ever say he received direct communication and advice from God?
Also, nobody ever ganged up on Bush for his beliefs? :huh:
Not that it's a big deal anyway Bush is a universalist not a Christian but I've never heard him claim Direct communication from God.

Are you serious?
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm

I thought he was a Fundalmentalist, and I'm pretty sure a good percentege of this forum (and country) has ganged up on Bush for his beliefs.

There are many websites that discuss GWB's "communication with God", you just have to look.

[Knuckles]

I had never heard Bush referred to as a Universalist or as a non-Christian; is this based on things he has said, or your definitions of those terms?

It is what people are saying now, because has made some statements that the god he believes in is the same god that world all prays and believes.

I think it is just people trying to distance themselves from him since he is not very popular now.

Bush has also said that he believed Jesus Christ was the Son of God and all of his teachings, that pretty much makes you a Christian.

[Newt]

I was raised Methodist, and I remember being taught in church that at least Jews, Muslims, and all the Christian sects were worshipping the same God; we certainly did not consider ourselves Universalists. I think the crucial distinction is that we thought all the others were doing it wrong! :laugh:

[BIGROD]

Does he mean on board the Mothership?

I honestly believe that's what he was alluding to.

[Troy Wall]

What a retarded fuck wad! :thumbs:

[DoctorWHO]

What the hell was he laughing about at the end? Sweeeeet crap that man is totally gone.

[Biofungus]

What a retarded fuck wad! :thumbs:
How dare you insult retarded fuck wads! :man:

[Moonrider]

I myself almost convert to the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster ;)

[GIGAFATTIMON]

I love all the parodies of this

Especially this one (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/3f716ffebe)

[The-Spirit]

It is what people are saying now, because has made some statements that the god he believes in is the same god that world all prays and believes.Yes that's universalism, furthermore he believes there's many ways to God rather than the Christian view that it's through faith in Jesus alone.

I think it is just people trying to distance themselves from him since he is not very popular now.

Bush has also said that he believed Jesus Christ was the Son of God and all of his teachings, that pretty much makes you a Christian.
Obviously not believing Jesus said he was the only way to the Father John 14:6 would not be following Christs teachings.

But who cares, really? He isn't popular now and his term will be over soon.

[darkwriter]

its a shame as I like some of his films...but I think insanity has finally reached him

[Luke de Sade]

Damn... he's creepy.

Me? I'd rather worship Prince. :har:

http://www.hotelchatter.com/files/admin/prince_roosevelt.jpg

[The-Spirit]

Prince is a Jehovahs Witness.

[Scott James]

It's brilliant entertainment but a little mortifying all the same.

I must be one of the few men on this planet who actually rates Tom Cruise as an actor but I have found his behaviour over the last two or three years to be somewhat disturbing.

Incidentally, I read that this video was not filmed recently but is from sometime early last year.

[sevans]

... Tom Cruise is an Actor?!

[Phatman]

Before opening one page in this thread I knew it would devolve into another bashing of religion and/or Christianity in general. For the bunch of you who love to preach tolerance, how about putting some into practice?

If Tom Cruise wants to believe this stuff, who cares? If it makes him happy and he's not hurting anybody else, why waste your time mocking his beliefs and ideas? If you want to attack his behavior and actions that's one thing, but how this gets twisted into another thread of bashing religion in general has become too predictable around here. There is a group of you who attack anybody with any religious beliefs, regardless of what they are. You are guilty of the same intolerance and hatred that you accuse them of, and have offically become a broken record.

[Newt]

Wait, what? Who bashed Christianity?

[spider]

Scientology isn't a religion though, so let the bashing continue. :)

[Scott James]

Scientology isn't a religion though, so let the bashing continue. :)Well, not in Germany it isn't. But the Germans are wary of anything that even remotely resembles an ideology. That's why Cruise's performance has been likened to Goebbels by the German academics.

[bluelinesmoke]

Leave Brittany... I mean religion Alone!!!

[T.J. May]

So is Battlefield Earth a real prophecy of what's too come? :whistlin:

[Troy Wall]

When an accomplished and talented SciFi writer pens the doctrines for a new church and religion, much laughing and pointing must ensue.

Hail, Xenu!

[The-Spirit]

I don't get what's so "scary" about this. If you want to be scared be scared of politicians who have the ability to change the nature of your lives.

[Angel]

Not scary at all. That all sounded pretty familiar to me. It must be pretty intense to live in the zone all the time. I wonder how he describes what he had for breakfast to someone...I bet its pretty dramatic.

[Mowgli]

I don't get what's so "scary" about this. If you want to be scared be scared of politicians who have the ability to change the nature of your lives.

I think his statements being so absolute are scary. He "sounds as if" he really believes that scientologists are literally "the only ones" who can do these things, or are qualified to do these things for the betterment of others.

Add to that the fact that the creator of this "religion" was a science fiction writer who openly stated that creating a religion was a great way to get rich (not a statement of belief or faith)...


I can see it as somewhat scary. Not terrifying, but scary in the way any fanatic or zealot can be.

[Luke de Sade]

Prince is a Jehovahs Witness.

I know. Since 2001. My brother is a Jehovah's Witness and he told me that.

Oh, and by the way, the scary thing about it is Cruise laughing, not his beliefs. :laugh:

[Moonrider]

It's not scary until he babbles about the apocalypse and order a mass suicide.