Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins

[Mwynn]

News from the future. Seems that John Connor is not the featured character of this film. The star is a character named Marcus. Who is being describe as "Riddick" like. This is planned Trilogy which is suppose to feature a cameo by Arnold.

[DoctorWHO]

Terminator ended after 2.....there is nothing else beyond that but meaningless hack "Fan films" hollywood style.

[Mwynn]

Yep it had a nice neat ending with a bow on top. Yet someone just had to open the box.

[Moonrider]

Riddick-like? Does that have anything to do with the rumored Vin Diesel involvement?

[Mwynn]

I see Vin Diesel being typecast into the "Riddick" type character for the foreseeable future. He is play that type in Babylon A.D.

There are still plans for a smaller budget Riddick movie also.

[galmando]

terminator 1 and 2 rock the mutha fookin house. number 3 was horse shit and felt like a poor version of T2.

i always thought that if they made the third film, if they really had to, they should have made the war. seems they finally are, but as you say, it just feels like they're milking the cow now.

meh

[Gav Heryng]

T3 should just been made up of the stuff they left out of T2 from the original screenplay. Interestingly, lots of the stuff left out of the film made it into the T2: Arcade game, such as the shitty Silverfish Terminators (can't win 'em all).

But the concept sketches of the Terminator storage facility with the Ahnulds all lined up in pods looked great.

Dis

[Eliseu Gouveia]

The first Terminator was awesome but the second was too "kiddie grade" for me (swear to god, the only thing missing was a talking animal! and/or a musical sequence)

i much prefer the ending of T3 which restored the "doom´n´gloom" of the first one.

[Paul Sanderson]

T3 was fine. Yes, not as good as 1 or 2, but it was fine. They should have left it at that though. Anything further is just more signs of Hollywood desperation.

[Moonrider]

I see Vin Diesel being typecast into the "Riddick" type character for the foreseeable future. He is play that type in Babylon A.D.


With a name like 'diesel' it's hard not to be typecast in any muscle-bound role.

I think if Terminator 3 didn't come out as late as it did, there's a good potential to make another three movie set in the future that explains all the decisions John Connor made and how it will ultimately bring down the machine invasion. I'm still curious about how he sent his own dad to the past so that he can be conceived. It's weird and disturbing, asking one of your buddy to screw your mom.

[spider]

T3 was fine. Yes, not as good as 1 or 2, but it was fine. They should have left it at that though. Anything further is just more signs of Hollywood desperation.

No, if they weren't planning to do more then T3 shouldn't have happened.
T2 wrapped everything up nicely, only for someone to open it all up again and leave a bunch of loose plot threads.

[galmando]

[QUOTE=Moonrider] I'm still curious about how he sent his own dad to the past so that he can be conceived. QUOTE]

what's completely wrong with that is technically speaking, he would never have been conceived if he had never had sent his dad back. so how could there be a john connor at all?!

if i sent someone back 23 years to be my dad, who was my dad originally? and would that have drastic changes on my person?

i love paradox's, but i aint dissing the movies though, just sayin. i like T1 and T2!
woo!

[Moonrider]

Well that's possible if time itself is a loop, but that would mean another problem: if tampering with time can only bring about the inevitable then there's no point in Skynet keep sending terminators to the past in an attempt to change history because the future is a self-fulfiling prophecy.

[Paul Sanderson]

Well that's possible if time itself is a loop, but that would mean another problem: if tampering with time can only bring about the inevitable then there's no point in Skynet keep sending terminators to the past in an attempt to change history because the future is a self-fulfiling prophecy.

Yes, but the beauty of that is, nobody knows for sure. All these theories about the space/time continuum are just that - theories. None can be proven, not even by Skynet, so it's best to err on the side of caution, so to speak.

[DoctorWHO]

Yes, but the beauty of that is, nobody knows for sure. All these theories about the space/time continuum are just that - theories. None can be proven, not even by Skynet, so it's best to err on the side of caution, so to speak.

It's turning into Star Trek...the old "Space/Time continuum loop hole!" that's when you know it's running out of steam.

[compton]

If you want to argue that then it's safe to say.
if it's possible to create time travel than anything that is going to happen has already happened. so infact you can't actualy do anything to mess up the time continuam

[Scott James]

Batman?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/

[Biofungus]

Actually, what I find funny (if you think about it), as soon as Skynet sends a terminator back, and nothing changes immediately, it must be like, "aw crap. Again?"

[Mwynn]

[QUOTE=Moonrider] I'm still curious about how he sent his own dad to the past so that he can be conceived. QUOTE]

what's completely wrong with that is technically speaking, he would never have been conceived if he had never had sent his dad back. so how could there be a john connor at all?!

if i sent someone back 23 years to be my dad, who was my dad originally? and would that have drastic changes on my person?

i love paradox's, but i aint dissing the movies though, just sayin. i like T1 and T2!
woo!
I would say the theory is that before Reese went back his father was someone else. Since John was not raised by Reese his personality would be the same. Technically the Terminator was the only real father figure for him.

[Mwynn]

Anton Yelchin is Kyle Reese.

[Mwynn]

This movie will be Pg-13.

[The Spirit]

I think they should make Terminator movies and Tv shows until Terminators finally destroy the earth.

[Deadfish07]

I would say the theory is that before Reese went back his father was someone else. Since John was not raised by Reese his personality would be the same. Technically the Terminator was the only real father figure for him.

That's my thought too. That there are two John Conners.

The bad ass John Conner that saved humanity, who sent Reese back to save his mother, not knowing the horny soldier would knock her up as well, completely preventing him from being born. Thus bringing forth this alternate John Conner, a weasely tech-geek, who is really nothing more than a legend in everyone's minds.

[secret-identity]

Hey, I liked T3.
And it kinda all made sense to revamp the story back up after 2 in order to start the war. Because if the war never started, then John wouldn't had sent Klye Reese back in time to screw his mom, and he wouldn't have never been born to send him back in time in the first place.. The war had to happen in order for the guy to be born... & in order to see Arnold in a 3rd Terminator..

T3 was good. 4 sounds like garbage.

[sevans]

T3 was average, not as good as the first 2 and not really needed.

Please stop making Terminator movies, they'll suck as much as AVP does.

[DoctorWHO]

T3 was average, not as good as the first 2 and not really needed.

Please stop making Terminator movies, they'll suck as much as AVP does.

Too late...T3 did the damage. Should have just left it at T2.

[HaphazardJoy]

Yep it had a nice neat ending with a bow on top. Yet someone just had to open the box.

I wouldn't say with a bow on top.
The second is clearly the best of the series thus far. I really didn't care for the third one except for how it ended, especially since I'd hoped we'd get a machine wars movie at that point. Now it looks like we'll get the post-apocalyptic fun I've wanted for years, but I'm holding off my excitement.

Anyway, back to T2. So yes, they destroyed the original chip and arm, story over? Not Quite.
First off, that's assuming the only data and records of those devices were in that building and in Dyson's head, which is pretty ridiculous when you think about it.
Secondly, yes, they went back and destroyed the original arm and chip; however, Arnie left ANOTHER arm in the gears at the factory in the end if you'll remember.

[ShinyTop]

I always thought that the Terminator and Matrix movies should combine. SOmeone should write a story about how Skynet succeeds and turns itself into the matrix. That would be killer!

[PC812]

The first Terminator was awesome but the second was too "kiddie grade" for me (swear to god, the only thing missing was a talking animal! and/or a musical sequence)

i much prefer the ending of T3 which restored the "doom´n´gloom" of the first one.I wouldn't say the second was too "kiddie grade," but I definitely think it was a lesser film than The Terminator. The first one was more in the thriller vein whereas T2 was straight-up action. And I always hated how the central concept of The Terminator was man vs machine and then T2 it becomes machine vs machine and man is left to being completely dependent on the machines. I always felt it cheapened the human element that was so well done in the first film.

[Mwynn]

Christian Bale has signed on to portray franchise hero John Connor in ALL THREE films.

[DoctorWHO]

They're hoping for the same "magic" he's brought to Batman. I've lost all interest in the Terminator franchise now, they've screwed it up so bad that it's become a farce onto itself.

[Gav Heryng]

I thought the recent TV series was pretty good. Took itself a bit more seriously that T3 did and explored some interesting concepts with the machines becoming more human-like.

Dis

[galmando]

I always thought that the Terminator and Matrix movies should combine. SOmeone should write a story about how Skynet succeeds and turns itself into the matrix. That would be killer!

they kinda did this 'mixing different stories together' with that Robocop Terminater coinc.

Robocop was basically what made it possible for Skynet to exist, being that Robocop can make human decisions whilst essentially still being a machine.

so it aint that much of a stretch.

personally i'd like to see the more realistic approach where machines take over by taking our jobs in petrol stations and supermarkets like they are now and then just not letting people get money outta cash machines. y'kno, generally just pissing us off til we're all poor!! ha!

[Mwynn]

Bryce Dallas Howard is Kate Connor.

[Paul Sanderson]

Bruce Wayne and Gwen Stacy...interesting combo.