Dumbledore Is Out!

[Raven]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071020/ap_en_ot/books_harry_potter;_ylt=AlZQb9ny2zthlxvY7NXUJWQnHL 8C

[deanne]

ohkay...

[Mike225]

I bet he gets his own TV show now.

[Spacious Interior]

:blink:

[C. Wallace]

Is there anything in ANY of the books ANYWHERE that alludes to this? Does the nature of his sexuality in ANY way have a bearing on the character or his role in the books?

If not, I think she is just saying it to say it just to be controversial.

[Multisync143]

Dumbledore died of a broken heart. :cry:

[Mr.Musgrave]

She's only saying it to fuck with the Christian groups, which is fine by me.

[Nick Kerklaan]

I dunno, from what I understand she has insane amounts of notes on all kinds of things related to the world and characters of the novels that didn't actually make it into the novels themselves. Maybe she's just taking the piss, or maybe she really did write Dumbledore as gay. Who knows?

[HaphazardJoy]

My initial response was similar when I read the headline, and the books don't clearly point it out in any way. However, in reference to his relation to Grindelwald, it kinda makes sense. Again, it doesn't directly imply that, but... I think it works for the characters.

[The-Spirit]

I never saw this coming, the show tune albums was kind of strange but otherwise you could've knocked me over with a feather boa.

[Paul Sanderson]

Why didn't she mention it in the books if this was the case?

[hardinart]

It was hinted to a little in book 7 with rita sketta's biography the life and lies of Albus Dumbledore.

[hardinart]

Why didn't she mention it in the books if this was the case?

probably because she writing it for kids and young adults.

[Paul Sanderson]

Just seems a bit strange to bring it up now.

[jedipencil]

Does the nature of his sexuality in ANY way have a bearing on the character or his role in the books?

If not, I think she is just saying it to say it just to be controversial.

I agree.

[kdmelrose]

What does Rowling have to gain from being controversial? She's already written some of the best selling books of all time, and she's a millionaire many times over.

Authors should always know more about their characters than the readers do. Perhaps she felt Dumbledore's sexuality was an integral part of his character, and had an affect on his actions. Or maybe she'd planned, at one point, to reveal that information in the story, but changed her mind, or couldn't find a place for it.

If Rowling did, indeed, send a note to David Yates on the subject -- I can't see why she'd make that up -- it would prove that she's not simply dropping a "bomb" for controversy's sake.

[JAQ]

Just seems a bit strange to bring it up now.Someone asked. It's very common for writers to have volumes of background material that never makes it to the pages of the books, and Ford knows that fans have a tendency to chronically pick the creators' brains for it. So unless she felt strongly that this was something she shouldn't share, it was probably bound to come out eventually.

[Raven]

What does Rowling have to gain from being controversial? She's already written some of the best selling books of all time, and she's a millionaire many times over.

Authors should always know more about their characters than the readers do. Perhaps she felt Dumbledore's sexuality was an integral part of his character, and had an affect on his actions. Or maybe she'd planned, at one point, to reveal that information in the story, but changed her mind, or couldn't find a place for it.

If Rowling did, indeed, send a note to David Yates on the subject -- I can't see why she'd make that up -- it would prove that she's not simply dropping a "bomb" for controversy's sake.

There is the possibility she is trying to appeal to the gay market. There aren't a lot of minorities represented in the books.

[wisper]

the hook...as basic as any part of a quality piece of art..

http://www.writersstore.com/article.php?articles_id=24

[kdmelrose]

There is the possibility she is trying to appeal to the gay market. There aren't a lot of minorities represented in the books.

By revealing a tidbit that doesn't actually appear in the text of any of the books?

The more logical explanation is simply that she always thought of Dumbledore as gay, and is now revealing that in response to a fan's question about the character finding "true love."

Why assign an ulterior motive?

[L Jamal]

There is the possibility she is trying to appeal to the gay market. There aren't a lot of minorities represented in the books.
Have you read the books?
The books are all about minorities and oppression. It was major theme from the house elves to the squibs. Although most of the main characters are white, lots of the secondary characters are non-white (Lee Jordan, Cho, the Patils sisters, Kingsley).

[rummblestrips]

The more logical explanation is simply that she always thought of Dumbledore as gay, and is now revealing that in response to a fan's question about the character finding "true love."

Why assign an ulterior motive?

I'm agreeing with you there. She obviously has a close relationship with her characters and he's probably known since the beginning that he was gay. She probably knows TONES of things about her characters that were never mentioned in the books.

[Mike225]

According to the article, there's already fan fiction portraying Dumbledore as gay.. :confused:

[kdmelrose]

There's slashfic for pretty much any Potter scenario you can imagine.

[Raven]

By revealing a tidbit that doesn't actually appear in the text of any of the books?

The more logical explanation is simply that she always thought of Dumbledore as gay, and is now revealing that in response to a fan's question about the character finding "true love."


Yeah and people already suggested that on the thread. I suggested another motive. I have no idea which possibility is true.

You are probably correct about the reason, but I doubt she wanted to go through the whole book burning nonsense in the Bible belt again. It would have overshadowed the last book and turned it into an issue when it really isn't.

If anything, my complaint is that Dumbledores boyfriend was a murdering scumbag, one more stupid mistake in the long list of stupid choices Dumbledore made.

[kdmelrose]

Eh, who hasn't fallen for someone who turned out to be a scumbag -- murdering or otherwise?

[jedipencil]

Eh, who hasn't fallen for someone who turned out to be a scumbag -- murdering or otherwise?

:laugh: :laugh:

[Buckyrig]

Who did what now and why do I care? :huh:

[kdmelrose]

You don't, Bucky. Go back to sleep.

[Buckyrig]

But I need someone to tell me how to feel.

[Kep!]

This reminds me of a trick I used to perform at all the right parties where I'd strip naked and make a magic wand disappear.

[Buckyrig]

Can you post it on youtube and give us a link?

[hardinart]

It doesn't really change anything in my mind. I still love the books and it doesn't change the fact that Dumbledore is one of my favorite characters. So who cares?

[Buckyrig]

So who cares?

I count 20 so far. :laugh:

[hardinart]

touche.

[jedipencil]

Tell me, if Dumbledor was straight, would she have mentioned it? Probably not. Maybe it's true, she just wanted to give more info on the characters she created - and knows best. I'm just hoping it's not to have a token gay character, or keep interest happening in a finished series or something.... But hey, what do I know, everybody made fun of my Spock comparisons...... :laugh:

[hardinart]

Who knows?

[wisper]

But I need someone to tell me how to feel.


:laugh:

[Scott James]

Funny how this made the headlines when nobody has pointed out the fact that Albus's brother, Aberforth, was shamed for "meddling" with goats.

Beastiality is evidently more acceptable than homosexuality. Being from Wales I already knew this but I had not realised the rest of the world was so enlightened.

[BEN DENNIS]

Okay, granted, I've never read any of the books and have only watched 2 of the movies (...and this was basically because my wife demanded it), but... what's the point?
Seriously. If it had no bearing on the story, why bother? The books are over,... let them go away now.

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[Multisync143]

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i saw it coming.

[Lovecraft13]

And somewhere in England, Michael Gambon read the AP article and was like, "I play a wizard, not a fucking faerie!"

[Biofungus]

She's going to be writing a Simillaron type "World of Potter" encyclopedia, so I'm sure she's been really thinking about character backgrounds. In a sense, it humanizes Dumbledore a bit, in that he didn't beat Grindelwald (the 'Voldemort' of Dumbledore's time) just to make a name for himself. But it does also add a bit of depth, in that there are allegations in the 7th book that he did dabble in the dark arts. To me, it just kind of smacks of a lack of creativity. Not that I care that he's gay, but moreso because Rowlings couldn't think of a better way to link the facts surrounding Dumbledore's youth other than "he's gay".

[Lovecraft13]

Not that I care that he's gay, but moreso because Rowlings couldn't think of a better way to link the facts surrounding Dumbledore's youth other than "he's gay".

"Daddy, can I grow up to be gay just like Dumbledore?"

[The-Spirit]

Harry Potter Author Reveals Books' Christian Allegory, Her Struggling Faith (http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071018/29749_Harry_Potter_Author_Reveals_Books%92_Christi an_Allegory%2C_Her_Struggling_Faith.htm)
Seems like she's covering all the bases.

[Mwynn]

What the hell is a Dumbledore?

[Phatman]

Who cares?

[The Dag]

Who the fuck cares?


the millions of people who read the book and seen the movie..

[spider]

All the Harry Potter fans are gay too?

[The Dag]

All the Harry Potter fans are gay too?

what?

[kdmelrose]

Yes, Harry Potter makes you gay.

[spider]

Unless they are I don't see why anyone would care about a characters sexuality.

[kdmelrose]

:huh:

[spider]

Unless I plan to have sex with them I don't care who is gay.

[kdmelrose]

That's ... good to know?

[kdmelrose]

(Beware paper cuts.)

[Phatman]

the millions of people who read the book and seen the movie..

...not really.

[spider]

I don't see why someones sexuality would be an issue, fictitous or otherwise,
so why the millions of Harry Potter fans care as Dag would put it, I can only assume they're either gay or have a problem with homosexuals.

If he was a real person and attractive to the opposite sex I can understand the dissapointment, however he is just words on a page.

[Phatman]

(Beware paper cuts.)

http://kqeda.com/comics/papercut.jpg

[kdmelrose]

so why the millions of Harry Potter fans care as Dag would put it, I can only assume they're either gay or have a problem with homosexuals.

That's a bit of a false dilemma, isn't it? Surely, there are plenty of people who are neither gay nor homophobic who could be interested in this information. Countless readers comb the pages, looking for the smallest detail about a character's history, and buy all of those ancillary "guidebooks."

Rowling's "revelation" recasts the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald: The two weren't just childhood friends and adult enemies; Grindelwald was the object of Dumbledore's affections.

In that light, I can see how a lot of fans -- and not necessarily just the gay ones, or the homophobic ones -- would care.

[The-Spirit]

All the Harry Potter fans are gay too?
Harry Potter is all things to all people.
It's Christian and if Rowling can make them Jewish, Black, and Muslim I bet she will.

[spider]

Unless it's in print it's not canonical, logical perhaps but it could just as simply be revealed they are brothers.
Though I can't presume much more not having read the books.

[kdmelrose]

Unless it's in print it's not canonical, logical perhaps but it could just as simply be revealed they are brothers.

If the author of the work says it's so, I think it's safe to call it "canon."

And I have no idea what you're talking about with that second part.

[spider]

Me neither.

[Buckyrig]

Bitchin', Mofos!

Peace out...

ya dig?

[Biofungus]

Yes, Harry Potter makes you gay.
I thought that was Spider-Man?

[Buckyrig]

According to Jon Stewart it's the purple-haired homosexuals on the 7 train.






Wow...I reached back for that one. :blink:

[Nick Kerklaan]

I don't see why someones sexuality would be an issue, fictitous or otherwise,
so why the millions of Harry Potter fans care as Dag would put it, I can only assume they're either gay or have a problem with homosexuals.

If he was a real person and attractive to the opposite sex I can understand the dissapointment, however he is just words on a page.

You're right. You have convinced me to never care about fiction again. Thanks for taking away the joy of reading.

[Buckyrig]

Get a job, hippie!

[albone]

She waited til after the books were over to reveal this. Seems to me like it's a bit of a non-issue as far as the story goes. It also seems kind of cheap to George Lucas it, after the fact. If it was a big deal, why wait til now to bring it up? Really, has the possiblity of him being gay only thought of after the books were over?

But we have 5 pages proving that it is indeed, a big deal.

[spider]

You're right. You have convinced me to never care about fiction again. Thanks for taking away the joy of reading.

You're welcome, I'm glad my half baked and passive comments on an internet message board could be of service. :thumbs:

Next topic...

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/characters/bizarro.jpg

Bizzaro: Gay?

[The Dag]

You're welcome, I'm glad my half baked and passive comments on an internet message board could be of service. :thumbs:

Next topic...

http://captain.custard.org/league/graphics/characters/bizarro.jpg

Bizzaro: Gay?

you're a fucking dumb ass.

[JAQ]

Who cares?It's obvious that this is significant to a lot of people. If you care enough about your apathy to keep stressing the fact that you don't care, that's fine, but insisting that no one would care... is just bizarre.
It also seems kind of cheap to George Lucas it, after the fact.She didn't go back to press with a new edition that changed the facts, or anything like that. A reader asked her to elaborate about one of the characters, and she answered the question, clarifying her conception of the character. If she'd given a different answer - even one with no hint of it on the pages - (e.g. Dumbledore had a relationship with a girl he grew up with, but she died tragically when they were young) I don't think anyone would be particularly excited about it. People are getting worked up simply because of what the answer was.

[Newt]

But now it's going to turn the kids into gay satanists! That's pretty important.

[Screeny]

According to Jon Stewart it's the purple-haired homosexuals on the 7 train.






Wow...I reached back for that one. :blink:

It's never advisable to use the words 'homosexual' and 'reach back' in the same sentence....unless you are Dumbledore of course. :p

[FA]

I'm kinda suprised people are suprised about this. I thought his latent homosexuality was made pretty clear.

[Buckyrig]

Yeah, but weren't the books set in Iran?

[Mike225]

:laugh:

[Raven]

I'm kinda suprised people are suprised about this. I thought his latent homosexuality was made pretty clear.

Right, you must be an expert, because millions of other people didn't see it coming.

[Mike225]

oh no..

[Knuckles]

Shouldn't there be an "oh snap" there?

[Nick Kerklaan]

I like how the same kind of people who will discuss, in-depth, the lives, loves, political views and fashion sense of imaginary spandex-clad musclemen, are the same ones going "Dude, who cares if Dumbledore is gay?" The assertion that he's just a fictional character so we shouldn't even be talking about him this much is absolutely fucking absurd, especially given where we are.

[kdmelrose]

:laugh:

[FA]

Right, you must be an expert, because millions of other people didn't see it coming.

Spoken like a latent homosexual.

[Raven]

Spoken like a latent homosexual.

Once I get accepted to Xavier's school, they'll help me develop my latent abilities to the fullest.

Not as cool as your ability to see the future and find invisible clues.

[spider]

I like how the same kind of people who will discuss, in-depth, the lives, loves, political views and fashion sense of imaginary spandex-clad musclemen, are the same ones going "Dude, who cares if Dumbledore is gay?" The assertion that he's just a fictional character so we shouldn't even be talking about him this much is absolutely fucking absurd, especially given where we are.

When Superman comes out you're welcome to call my bluff.
Besides, discussing someones sexuality and their lives, loves, political views and fashion sense are two different things.
Discussing a characters relationship with another is fine, discussing their sexuality, well, there is only so much you can say.

[Phatman]

Once I get accepted to Xavier's school, they'll help me develop my latent abilities to the fullest.

Is one of those abilities the power to become a pompous ass on command or to be on the completely wrong side of every arguement?

Not as cool as your ability to see the future and find invisible clues.

She also has an infallible dumbass detector that you're setting off right now.

[FA]

Not as cool as your ability to see the future and find invisible clues.

Which is itself in turn not as cool as my ability to go back in time and erase every stereotype of an old man who never married and has weird tension with his childhood best friend from popular culture.

[Raven]

Which is itself in turn not as cool as my ability to go back in time and erase every stereotype of an old man who never married and has weird tension with his childhood best friend from popular culture.

Your basing your theory on stereotypes, yet I'm the dumbass?

Okay.

I'm not even going to bother.

[Nick Kerklaan]

When Superman comes out you're welcome to call my bluff.
Besides, discussing someones sexuality and their lives, loves, political views and fashion sense are two different things.
Discussing a characters relationship with another is fine, discussing their sexuality, well, there is only so much you can say.

Actually, you can say a lot, judging by this thread. Not to mention, this discussion is as much about the motivation/honesty of J.K. Rowling making this statement at this time as it is Dumbledore's sexuality.

And about people calling each other names I guess.

[kdmelrose]

When Superman comes out you're welcome to call my bluff.

What bluff?

Besides, discussing someones sexuality and their lives, loves, political views and fashion sense are two different things.
Discussing a characters relationship with another is fine, discussing their sexuality, well, there is only so much you can say.

Man, you're all over the place. Rowling said that Dumbledore was gay and in love with Grindelwald, which falls under the categories of "lives," "loves" and "characters' relationship."

You just keep getting hung up on the "gay" thing.

[FA]

Your basing your theory on stereotypes, yet I'm the dumbass?

Okay.

I'm not even going to bother.

Archetypes? In literature? NONSENSE! :rolleyes:

[spider]

Because it's not up for discussion, he is gay, what else is there to discuss?

If it explains his relationship with Gringlegore or whoever, okay then, but discussing that isn't discussing his sexuality.

[Nick Kerklaan]

ecause it's not up for discussion, he is gay, what else is there to discuss?

If it explains his relationship with Gringlegore or whoever, okay then, but discussing that isn't discussing his sexuality.

Um... I could say THE EXACT SAME THING I JUST SAID, but I'm lazy so I'll quote myself:

Not to mention, this discussion is as much about the motivation/honesty of J.K. Rowling making this statement at this time as it is Dumbledore's sexuality.

[Buckyrig]

Archetypes? In literature? NONSENSE! :rolleyes:

Harry Potter is literature? :huh:



*dives under the bed*

[The-Spirit]

http://forums.filefront.com/attachments/spam-forum/55918d1178573604-dark-pink-thread-thread-gay-disturbing-copy.jpg

[jedipencil]

Good grief, what's Mr Muggles doing here?

[Buckyrig]

This is my most favoritist thread of the week.

Kudos all around!

:thumbs:

[Buckyrig]

That's a bit of a false dilemma, isn't it? Surely, there are plenty of people who are neither gay nor homophobic who could be interested in this information. Countless readers comb the pages, looking for the smallest detail about a character's history, and buy all of those ancillary "guidebooks."

Rowling's "revelation" recasts the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald: The two weren't just childhood friends and adult enemies; Grindelwald was the object of Dumbledore's affections.

In that light, I can see how a lot of fans -- and not necessarily just the gay ones, or the homophobic ones -- would care.

I understand this phenomenon, I just don't understand it personally. I've never been horribly interested in the things that happen outside of the framework of a story itself.

Isn't there risk whenever these pieces of literary negative space are filled in of losing something intangible from the piece.

See Star Wars prequels for example. ;)

[Knuckles]

See Star Wars prequels for example. ;)

I will not!

[Buckyrig]

Hey, I like them personally. But either way...they altered the originals by mere virtue of their existence.

[Newt]

I understand this phenomenon, I just don't understand it personally. I've never been horribly interested in the things that happen outside of the framework of a story itself.

Isn't there risk whenever these pieces of literary negative space are filled in of losing something intangible from the piece.

See Star Wars prequels for example. ;)

It all depends on what you're trying to get from the work; for some people it's the story, for others it's the immersion in another life/ perspective/ setting. People who gravitate to fantasy and sci-fi are almost by definition people who enjoy immersion- otherwise why bother?

[kdmelrose]

I understand this phenomenon, I just don't understand it personally. I've never been horribly interested in the things that happen outside of the framework of a story itself.

I don't particularly get it, either, but it obviously happens with some frequency.

[Knuckles]

Hell that happens in real life.

[kdmelrose]

It all depends on what you're trying to get from the work; for some people it's the story, for others it's the immersion in another life/ perspective/ setting. People who gravitate to fantasy and sci-fi are almost by definition people who enjoy immersion- otherwise why bother?

Yeah, I think that's true. Some people view the works as shared and interactive experiences, spawning fan fiction, conventions and cosplay, among other things.

[Buckyrig]

That's how they getcha!

[Scott James]

Hmmmm, let's look at the franchise and extract a few facts we know about Dumbledore:

1. He is not - nor has ever apparently been - involved with a woman of any kind throughout his life.

2. He minces around in his long, brightly coloured robes (i.e. a dress) and seems to spend most of his time hanging out with pubescent boys. (Steady on!!)

3. He has style to spare and the ladies love him. (McGonagall practically fawns over him like an errant little brother)

If these three signs were not enough to alert even the most redundant gaydar then I don't know what were.

[kdmelrose]

4.) He's a Brit.

[Buckyrig]

:laugh:

[Scott James]

4.) He's a Brit.

5) And he speaks and acts like Sir Ian McKellen, even when played by Richard Harris and Michael Gambon.

[Phatman]

:laugh: :laugh:

[The-Spirit]

This is a great way of making sure people continue to buy these books that are coming to and end, it's the Madonna marketing system come up with some shocking thing that makes people buy the material again without producing new material.
I read one article that she says that a long time character is secretly gay and now people will go back and read it again and then that it's a Christian allegory (http://www.christianpost.com/article/20071018/29749_Harry_Potter_Author_Reveals_Books%92_Christi an_Allegory%2C_Her_Struggling_Faith.htm) which might make some Christians who wouldn't have read it before read it now. Shes very smart, a super book pimptress.

[Raven]

Archetypes? In literature? NONSENSE! :rolleyes:

The very old, slightly befuddled but very powerful wizard in an archtype. See Merlin, Fizban, Gandalf and Dumbledore.

The unmarried old man who spends his time around children and MUST be gay is a negative stereotype, not an archetype.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/FamilyGuyHerbert.jpg/210px-FamilyGuyHerbert.jpg

[Scott James]

The unmarried old man who spends his time around children and MUST be gay is a negative stereotype, not an archetype.Why?

[Buckyrig]

http://www.praguepost.com/galleries/dali-lama/images/DalaiLama_5362-rj.jpg

[Scott James]

http://www.praguepost.com/galleries/dali-lama/images/DalaiLama_5362-rj.jpgCareful, you don't want to upset China.

[kdmelrose]

http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes510/paperchase14.jpeg

[kdmelrose]

http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-uploads/drummond.jpg

[Biofungus]

I'm just waiting for the inevitable "Dumbledore Buttsecks" pics to start making the rounds...

[kdmelrose]

http://www.dumbledorepride.com/wizards-are-tshirt.gif

[FA]

The very old, slightly befuddled but very powerful wizard in an archtype. See Merlin, Fizban, Gandalf and Dumbledore.

The unmarried old man who spends his time around children and MUST be gay is a negative stereotype, not an archetype.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/FamilyGuyHerbert.jpg/210px-FamilyGuyHerbert.jpg

I thought you weren't even going to bother? SUCKED BACK IN! SUCKED BACK IN! :w00t:

[kdmelrose]

That's what she sai--

Oh, never mind.

[wisper]

man I didnt even know who he was...Ive GOT long gray hair and a beard!
oh nooooooooooo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p61y0crkZfA

[Mike225]

Kevin: :kewl:

[The-Spirit]

http://www.dumbledorepride.com/wizards-are-tshirt.gif
That should say : Want to touch my magic wand?

[Screeny]

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/images/homepage/2010dumbledore.jpg

[Gonzogoose]

She's only saying it to fuck with the Christian groups, which is fine by me.

Classy. :yawn:


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[Gonzogoose]

But now it's going to turn the kids into gay satanists! That's pretty important.

:laugh: That made me laugh and I'm not sure why.


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[Mr.Musgrave]

Classy. :yawn:


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Oh, but all the gay jokes and comparisons to child molesters are? Get over yourself.

[Gonzogoose]

Oh, but all the gay jokes and comparisons to child molesters are? Get over yourself.

No, I disagree with those as well. I found the sarcasm in the jokes funny. I think it's preposterous to assume that an elderly gay man would molest children, and I find it ridiculous that SOME Christians think a book that has sorcery in it teaches kids to worship Satan. But just like it's not right to promote intolerance towards homosexuals it's just as much in poor taste to promote intolerance towards Christians. So get over yourself, Steve. :p


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[Mr.Musgrave]

Oh, yes, the poor downtrodden christians. How hard they have it. Puh-lease. Maybe if the church didn't promote intolerance, bigotry, and hatred on top of being one of the most archaic and corrupt institutions on the PLANET I wouldn't be so hard on it.

But it is. And it doesn't even have enough sense to be embarrassed about it.

[Gonzogoose]

Oh, yes, the poor downtrodden christians. How hard they have it. Puh-lease. Maybe if the church didn't promote intolerance, bigotry, and hatred on top of being one of the most archaic and corrupt institutions on the PLANET I wouldn't be so hard on it.

But it is. And it doesn't even have enough sense to be embarrassed about it.

Dude, talk about stereotyping. You are lumping ALL Christians into one category, and somehow referring to a universal church. So I guess in your eyes all White guys are uncoordinated and boring, all African-Americans are great athletes, and all Muslims are suicide bombers? Get a grip, man, seriously.

[wisper]

Dude, talk about stereotyping. You are lumping ALL Christians into one category, and somehow referring to a universal church. So I guess in your eyes all White guys are uncoordinated and boring, all African-Americans are great athletes, and all Muslims are suicide bombers? Get a grip, man, seriously.


Dumbledore is a white-African-American-Muslim ? ohhhhh..... a wizard....


I c...

[Gonzogoose]

Dumbledore is a white-African-American-Muslim ? ohhhhh..... a wizard....


I c...

Heh, thanks for lightening the mood again, we needed it. :)


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[Buckyrig]

Lighten what?

This thread is AWESOME!

[Mr.Musgrave]

Dude, talk about stereotyping. You are lumping ALL Christians into one category, and somehow referring to a universal church. So I guess in your eyes all White guys are uncoordinated and boring, all African-Americans are great athletes, and all Muslims are suicide bombers? Get a grip, man, seriously.


I lumped the christian church into one category, not all christians. And the idea that christians are a downtrodden minority is laughable at best.

[Lovecraft13]

I heard Dumbledore originally auditioned for Magneto but lost to Sir Ian McKellen.

[Raven]

Oh, yes, the poor downtrodden christians. How hard they have it. Puh-lease. Maybe if the church didn't promote intolerance, bigotry, and hatred on top of being one of the most archaic and corrupt institutions on the PLANET I wouldn't be so hard on it.

But it is. And it doesn't even have enough sense to be embarrassed about it.

Holy crap, I agree with you!

[Buckyrig]

I'm just afraid that, with this new information, Mike might feel the need to read all the Harry Potter books before he gets to American Gods. :cry:

[Mike225]

What are you trying to say?

[Gonzogoose]

I lumped the christian church into one category, not all christians. And the idea that christians are a downtrodden minority is laughable at best.

I didn't call Christians a downtrodden minority, nor did I imply it, those are your words. I stated it was unfair of you to discriminate against Christians while spouting it's unfair of SOME Christians to discriminate against other groups as that is hypocritical.

As far as referring to the Christian church, which church would that be exactly? Because to lump the church into a category lumps those who attend "it" into the category as well. There's not one governing power that rules over all the Christian churches in the world unless, of course, you are referring to the Catholic church. And since I'm not Catholic that doesn't apply to me.

In any case, you and I will disagree until the end of time on this issue it seems, so there's no point in belaboring the topic.

Carry on, people.


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[Buckyrig]

What are you trying to say?

http://mooreslore.corante.com/archives/images/fumble.jpg

:sure:

[Gabriel Solis]

How did McNabb infiltrate this thread?? Get him out of here!

[Mr.Musgrave]

I didn't call Christians a downtrodden minority, nor did I imply it, those are your words. I stated it was unfair of you to discriminate against Christians while spouting it's unfair of SOME Christians to discriminate against other groups as that is hypocritical.

Christians are not a oppressed minority. Christians aren't denied rights and freedoms guaranteed by our constitution. Christians aren't murdered or beaten for who they are. As soon as Christians are ANY of these things, I'll worry about the so-called discrimination against a massively vile organization.


As far as referring to the Christian church, which church would that be exactly? Because to lump the church into a category lumps those who attend "it" into the category as well. There's not one governing power that rules over all the Christian churches in the world unless, of course, you are referring to the Catholic church. And since I'm not Catholic that doesn't apply to me.


Each sect has a governing body and each governing body is corrupt. And that is a well documented fact. You want to talk about hypocrisy? Take a look at your poor "discriminated" christian churches.

What a joke.

[Gonzogoose]

Again, I NEVER said they were a minority or downtrodden. But history does prove that at one time they were both, and they were persecuted, beaten, maimed and killed for their beliefs. It's still beyond the point I'm making. You're just not listening, or you're hearing what you want to hear because you have something personal against Christians. So I have nothing more to say because that means you have a problem with me, a non-violent, loving and caring, non-racist, non-bigot Christian. And for the record, my church was not part of any organization, so there was no governing body. God bless you, Steve.

So, Dumbledore's gay. Personally I thought if anyone would be outed it would have been one of the Luvgoods. Goes to show what I know.


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[The-Spirit]

It always ends up like this.

J K Rowling should keep her mouth shut. :)

[Buckyrig]

Books is trouble.

[Newt]

Books is trouble.

BURN 'EM!

[Buckyrig]

hehe

Burning shit's cool.

[Newt]

No, it's hot. And smelly. Dumbass.

[Screeny]

No, it's hot. And smelly. Dumbass.

Not so. The flaming turd parcel on the doorstep never fails to raise a titter.

[Newt]

Funny is not cool. In fact, the main method by which you can tell that you are cool is that no one ever laughs at you.

[Buckyrig]

If we burn Harry Potter...which has a gay character inside it...is it a hate crime?

[Newt]

Shut up, Bucky.

[Mr.Musgrave]

But history does prove that at one time they were both, and they were persecuted, beaten, maimed and killed for their beliefs.


Yeah. TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. And what have they been doing ever since? Persecuted, beaten, maimed and killed! And you talk of hypocrisy!

And my problem with christianinty stems from those who conveniently ignore history or feign ignorance when it comes to the NUMEROUS crimes of the NUMEROUS branches of the christian faith.

What. A. Joke.

[Screeny]

If we burn Harry Potter...which has a gay character inside it...is it a hate crime?

But how would you know that the person in the Harry Potter suit was gay (other than the fact that they are dressed up in a Harry Potter suit of course)?...and why would you burn him? Why? :confused:

[FA]

...and why would you burn him? Why? :confused:

Because he's wrapped in the american flag?

:huh:

[Knuckles]

Because he's wrapped in the american flag?

:huh:

:confused:

Why do you hate freedom?

[Buckyrig]

Harry Potter = book

NOT person dressed as nubile wizard-boy-king

[FA]

:confused:

Why do you hate freedom?

How DARE you sir.

I don't hate freedom. I just love servitude. :thumbs:

[Screeny]

Mike is a nubile wizard-boy-king

Egads! Steady on old boy! :eek:

[Knuckles]

You want to burn Mike? :huh:

[Lovecraft13]

Dumbledore just wanted to grab Harry's potter.

[Gonzogoose]

Yeah. TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. And what have they been doing ever since? Persecuted, beaten, maimed and killed! And you talk of hypocrisy!

And my problem with christianinty stems from those who conveniently ignore history or feign ignorance when it comes to the NUMEROUS crimes of the NUMEROUS branches of the christian faith.

What. A. Joke.

Just when you think you're out they pull you back in...

Thanks to someone pointing this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207868/posts

It still happens today, man. But that's still not my point. So you're telling me because a bunch of yahoos through history did some really bad things that all of Christians should pay for it? So I guess all white people should pay for the crimes against African Americans forever? Or all Egyptians should pay for the crimes against the Hebrew? Nobody's feigning ignorance on the matter, and nobody is denying that there are zealots out there that do crazy things in the name of religion. What I'm saying, again, is that you are stereotyping thousands of people by the crimes of a percentage of them. You might as well judge the entire human race based on the percentage that commit horrible crimes. It's the same thing, man, don't you see that? :yawn:

[Screeny]

Are you suggesting that Bucky is Dumbledore?

[Buckyrig]

Egads! Steady on old boy! :eek:

Are we headed into a fruit-bowling reference? :eek:

[Screeny]

3 sheets to the wind, cap'n!

[Buckyrig]

Being drunk helps, I'm sure.

[Newt]

You've been in the foc's'le too long, Screeny; come down to the poop deck.

[Screeny]

Why? Is it your turn in the barrel?

[Newt]

I learned a lesson from Tommy Loy.

[Screeny]

Jazz hands in the powder magazine!

[Mr.Musgrave]

Just when you think you're out they pull you back in...

Thanks to someone pointing this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207868/posts

It still happens today, man. But that's still not my point. So you're telling me because a bunch of yahoos through history did some really bad things that all of Christians should pay for it? So I guess all white people should pay for the crimes against African Americans forever? Or all Egyptians should pay for the crimes against the Hebrew? Nobody's feigning ignorance on the matter, and nobody is denying that there are zealots out there that do crazy things in the name of religion. What I'm saying, again, is that you are stereotyping thousands of people by the crimes of a percentage of them. You might as well judge the entire human race based on the percentage that commit horrible crimes. It's the same thing, man, don't you see that? :yawn:


A very small percentage? Hah. That's funny. Tell you what, as soon as the main branches of christianity stop being bigoted hate factories and stop interfering with the lives of other people I'll stop ragging on them. So leave the homosexuals alone, leave the abortion clinics and patients alone, stay out of politics, and out of people's lives who don't ask for your help. And so you aren't confused, I don't mean you specifically since you're one of the "good ones" (of course, you all claim to be the good ones.)

I just read the other day that the archaic practices and teachings of the christian sects are causing a massive AIDS increase in africa. Now that's some good loving of mankind there!

[FA]

Thanks to someone pointing this out:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207868/posts

Who pointed that out?

I just want to know who regularly reads this bilge so I can avoid them.

Free Republic has been rallying in support of our President and the war effort since shortly after the terrorist attack on America on September 11, 2001. Later, as the inevitable war against Iraq drew closer, more and more of the "useful idiots" of the left began crawling out of the woodwork organizing so-called "anti-war" protests. FReepers are working to ensure that these communist organized (See: INTERNATIONAL A.N.S.W.E.R.) demonstrations do not go unanswered. Patriotic Americans are countering these misguided terrorist supporting leftist groups wherever and whenever they show up. Join or form a Free Republic Chapter, grab your signs, unfurl the flag, and prepare to support your country!

[The-Spirit]

That J K Rowling really likes to stir stuff up doesn't she?

[Gonzogoose]

A very small percentage? Hah. That's funny. Tell you what, as soon as the main branches of christianity stop being bigoted hate factories and stop interfering with the lives of other people I'll stop ragging on them. So leave the homosexuals alone, leave the abortion clinics and patients alone, stay out of politics, and out of people's lives who don't ask for your help. And so you aren't confused, I don't mean you specifically since you're one of the "good ones" (of course, you all claim to be the good ones.)

I just read the other day that the archaic practices and teachings of the christian sects are causing a massive AIDS increase in africa. Now that's some good loving of mankind there!

Sigh. Where did I say "a very small percentage"? I said a percentage, though I did not specify what percentage that was. All I was inferring is that it doesn't apply to ALL Christians as you inferred it did.

As for Christians not telling other people how to live their lives, I get your point there. However, we should be able to voice our opinions on those issues and stand up for what we believe in as much as anyone else as that is the freedom of speech and religion. I'm not advocating forcing our beliefs on others, so don't put those words in my mouth. But also don't take our kids' rights to pray or say "in God we trust" out of the schools either. And stay out of politics? So our opinions aren't supposed to be heard there either?

We're supposed to allow all other religions their beliefs, but Christianity is very slowly being taken away as a freedom in this country. And whether anyone likes it or not, this country was founded on Christian principles. It's becoming a very hard double standard here, man.

But I digress. Sigh. How in the world did I get into this?

[Screeny]

That J K Rowling really likes to stir stuff up doesn't she?

I hear she makes a fine Caesar Salad!

[Newt]

Your kind will eat anything so long as it's got anchovies in it, eh?

[Screeny]

That's 'sardines' to you!

[FA]

Sardines on toast with a bit of ketchup :thumbs:

[Buckyrig]

Sardines on toast with a bit of ketchup :thumbs:

That's 'Irish gravy' to you!












Wait...what? :huh:

[Newt]

That's 'sardines' to you!

They're not the same thing.

[FA]

They both come from the supermarket. What more do you want. :man:

[Newt]

Sardines on toast with a bit of ketchup :thumbs:

I wasn't referring to Brits in general, but specifically to Mr. Scenery, who is after all from the home of Worcestershire sauce, which contains anchovies. As does Caesar dressing. Now is it all clear?

[FA]

Anchovies....in caesar dressing..... :huh:

Nope. Doesn't compute.

[Newt]

You didn't know?

CAESAR SALAD DRESSING AND SALAD
(See also: New Caesar Style Salad; Caesar Salad History; Romaine)

Servings: 8
Dressing
6 Cloves Garlic
1/2 Teaspoon Fresh Ground Black Pepper
1 Ounce Parmesan Cheese -- cubed

3 Whole Eggs
1 Tablespoon Dijon Mustard
1 Tablespoon Key Lime Juice
5 Anchovy Fillets
1 Teaspoon Worcestershire Sauce

1 Cup Extra Virgin Olive Oil
1 Cup Canola Oil

Croutons
3 Cups White Bread -- 1/2" cubes
3 Cloves Garlic -- peeled and crushed
1 Teaspoon Mixed Herbs (thyme, basil & oregano)
1/4 Cup Extra Virgin Olive Oil

Salad
4 Heads Romaine Lettuce
1/2 Cup Parmesan Cheese -- grated


DRESSING
Place garlic cloves, pepper, and Parmesan Cheese in food processor, and process 1 minute.

Add remaining ingredients except oils and process 30 seconds.

Add oil slowly while processing. (You can use all olive oil if desired for stronger flavor).
Use within 48 ours.

CROUTONS
Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Mix garlic, herbs and olive oil in a small bowl. Let sit for 15-30 minutes. Drizzle oil over bread cubes through fine mesh strainer, and toss to coat the bread evenly.
Place on baking sheet and bake until golden brown, 10-15 minutes. Cool.

SALAD
Tear washed and dried Romaine (Cos) lettuce into large pieces.
Place in large bowl, drizzle with dressing and toss to coat lightly, add croutons and grated cheese and toss to coat evenly. Serve immediately.

NOTES : VARIATIONS
USE PLAIN LIME JUICE if Key Limes are unavailable.
FOR AN EGGLESS DRESSING, substitute 6 ounces TOFU drained, instead of eggs. Proceed as in step 1) above, but process for 1 minute, scrape sides of bowl then process until mixture is smooth. Proceed with remainder of recipe as above.
FOR VEGETARIAN DRESSING, use Tofu, leave out Parmesan cheese and anchovies, increase lime juice to 1 1/2 TB and add 1/4 tsp salt.
CROUTONS may be made with dried herbs and powdered garlic, straining oil is not necessary.
Try using Red Wine Vinegar instead of Key Lime Juice.
Try using 1-2 tsp dry mustard instead of Dijon mustard.
Coddle eggs for 45 seconds to 1 minute.

[Buckyrig]

Paste, Newt. Paste.

[The-Spirit]

I guess this is a good example of why Chit Chat has no points.

[Newt]

Have you recanted your earlier position, Spirit?

[Screeny]

I wasn't referring to Brits in general, but specifically to Mr. Scenery, who is after all from the home of Worcestershire sauce, which contains anchovies. As does Caesar dressing. Now is it all clear?

Technically, Caesar dressing contains Worcestershire Sauce which, I'll grant you contains anchovies. What were we talking about again?

Anyone for a game of sardines?...I'll bring the sauce!

OK, I'll retract my first paragraph after your blatant cut & pastery. But I am still right.

[FA]

:confused:

[Newt]

Technically, Caesar dressing contains Worcestershire Sauce which, I'll grant you contains anchovies. What were we talking about again?

Anyone for a game of sardines?...I'll bring the sauce!

Caesar dressing contains both Worcestershire sauce and anchovy; it's a double helping.

[Screeny]

You appear to be covered in white sauce, FA - you started without me!

[The-Spirit]

Have you recanted your earlier position, Spirit?
No but I understand why it shouldn't be done.

[Nick Kerklaan]

I can't believe an innocent thread about an elderly gay wizard morphed into this.

[Mike225]

:laugh: Your post count is 69!

[Nick Kerklaan]

Your post count is 69!

Oh man, I should never post again! That way it'll always be 69!

[Mike225]

You're confined to Chit Chat from here on out!

[Nick Kerklaan]

Fuck that! I'm 69ing all over this place! You can't stop me!

[Mike225]

No, I'm saying that posts don't count in chit chat. They do everywhere else.

[Nick Kerklaan]

What... 70??

Oh no!!!!!

I didn't know posts didn't count in Chit Chat. I just thought the system was taking its time registering my last few posts.

[ponyrl]

*Heh-hah*

http://www.rightblueeye.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/Harry%20Potter%20Simpsons.jpg

:laugh:

[Nick Kerklaan]

Mr. Burns is gay?

[FA]

Mr. Burns is gay?

You didn't know? I thought it was obvious.

;)

[Buckyrig]

What's that a picture of?

[Scott James]

Where is the harm in Dumbledore hanging out with kids, exactly?

Would it not make sense that he would rather mix it with a group of people too young to have formed their own prejudices?

[Buckyrig]

Where is the harm in Dumbledore hanging out with kids, exactly?

Would it not make sense that he would rather mix it with a group of people too young to have formed their own prejudices?

Where the Hell did you grow up! :huh:

[Phatman]

An interesting follow up opinion piece on this topic:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/ent/stories/DN-rowlingcolumn_1024gl.State.Edition1.2292bdc.html

[Buckyrig]

Oh Jesus Christ, why? :yawn:

[magiktori]

What's that a picture of?
its from one of the tree houses of horror eps i cant recall whitch nimber off hand but bart and lisa go to this hog warts knock off

[Buckyrig]

shit

[Newt]

On the topic of sensitivity:

My freshman year at high school, art class. My friend Jeremy and I spend most of the class cutting up and insulting each other, because we're 15. I refer to him as a 'Nazi', on account of him being 6 feet tall and blonde; some random girl in class overhears me, stands up, looking rather upset, and says, "You better not be making fun of Nazis, 'cause I am one."

I really didn't know how to respond to that.

[Buckyrig]

On the topic of sensitivity:

My freshman year at high school, art class. My friend Jeremy and I spend most of the class cutting up and insulting each other, because we're 15. I refer to him as a 'Nazi', on account of him being 6 feet tall and blonde; some random girl in class overhears me, stands up, looking rather upset, and says, "You better not be making fun of Nazis, 'cause I am one."

I really didn't know how to respond to that.

By laughing in her face until you pass out!




















And when you recover, showing up at her house and knocking to laugh in her face until you pass out again.



Of course, she could have been making a joke.

[Nick Kerklaan]

An interesting follow up opinion piece on this topic:

This vibes with what I said in another thread about how I don't really give a shit what an author thinks or feels about his work, just what I took from it. So in a way the "Leave your world alone, it's our world now" argument is pretty valid, though certainly unfair to the author who has invested themselves so heavily in that world. J.K. Rowling probably feels she has every right to dispense background information on her characters because, well, they're her characters.

So I guess I can see both sides.

Oh Jesus Christ, why?

Just because you don't give a shit about Harry Potter doesn't mean you have to keep reminding us that you don't give a shit about Harry Potter.

[Buckyrig]

Just because you don't give a shit about Harry Potter doesn't mean you have to keep reminding us that you don't give a shit about Harry Potter.

That wasn't my point.


I actually find this entire phenomenon engrossing. Just not for the same reasons as most people.

[Nick Kerklaan]

Hey man, if this thread was about whether or not Wolverine is gay, you'd be as into it as everyone else. C'mon, admit it.

[Buckyrig]

If Marvel announced Wolverine was gay, I'd throw a friggin' party in honor of the event.

And I'd laugh for a whole year.

[Phatman]

Hey man, if this thread was about whether or not Wolverine is gay, you'd be as into it as everyone else. C'mon, admit it.

Wait a minute...are you saying Wolverine isn't gay? Now there's some news.

[Phatman]

The entire Justice League is being cast in next season's Project Runway (my money's on J'onn "Santino" J'onzz).

[Nick Kerklaan]

:eek:

You did NOT just call Martian Manhunter gay.

[Buckyrig]

He has a wife and kids. :slap:


















Crunchy, lifeless wife and kids.

[Phatman]

:eek:

You did NOT just call Martian Manhunter gay.

Dude, do you know any straight guy (Martian or human) who would where something like this?:

http://captain.custard.org/geo_old/pictures/mm-3.jpg

C'mon!

[Newt]

Dude, do you know any straight guy (Martian or human) who would where something like this?:

http://captain.custard.org/geo_old/pictures/mm-3.jpg

C'mon!

Hell, if I were built like that I'd wear silk panties and fruit roll-up suspenders too!

[Nick Kerklaan]

Hell, if I were built like that I'd wear silk panties and fruit roll-up suspenders too!

Here here!

[Mecha]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/dumbledore-is-gay-lolcat.jpg

[Buckyrig]

Doesn't Tom Cruise have a movie coming out soon?

[Phatman]

Tom Cruise is gay. Katie Holmes is a beard.

[Buckyrig]

Thank you, Kreskin.

[Phatman]

Kreskin's gay and will give you a check for 1 million dollars if you can prove otherwise.

[The-Spirit]

Dude, do you know any straight guy (Martian or human) who would where something like this?:

http://captain.custard.org/geo_old/pictures/mm-3.jpg

C'mon!
All the Martians I know dress like that.

[spider]

Hey man, if this thread was about whether or not Wolverine is gay, you'd be as into it as everyone else. C'mon, admit it.

I don't know about gay but he did have a boner for his cousin once, plus anyone he ever got it on with could be accused of beastiality if you think about it.

[Lovecraft13]

Wizards are a myth, and so is homosexuality!

[Biofungus]

Your face is a myth!


Oops, sorry. I confused you with Bucky there for a moment...

[Buckyrig]

You're confused you with Bucky! :mad:

[Biofungus]

Your face is confused!

[DemolitionSamurai]

your mom is a face

[kdmelrose]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/genericone/faceman.jpg

[Biofungus]

What know you of my mom?!

[Buckyrig]

Kevin's face is Bio's face!

Feel George Peppard's vengeance!

[kdmelrose]

I love it when a plan comes together.

[Biofungus]

Kevin's face is Bio's face!

Feel George Peppard's vengeance!
Mr. T pities your face!

[Mike225]

dun duh duh duh duhduhduh da da da da Da DA duh duh duhduhduh duh

[Buckyrig]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/82/250px-Reginaldbarclay001.jpg

Wait...what just happened? :huh:

[The-Spirit]

DoctorWHO
Dumbledoor is gay?

JK is saying...yeah. Wow. I can just see those militant Christian groups getting the torches ready and heading out to beat the living crap out of any book store that carries the title.

The-Spirit
No you can't.
I retract this statement, it seems Pat Robertson has opened the book banning door again.
link (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5890.html)

[Buckyrig]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You know, I once had a fundamentalist lecture me on the evils of The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe.

I nearly died of laughter.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[The-Spirit]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You know, I once had a fundamentalist lecture me on the evils of The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe.

I nearly died of laughter.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:I would've too.

[Buckyrig]

He also had a problem with The Transformers. :D

[Raven]

He also had a problem with The Transformers. :D

Why? Simply because they are souless machines created by the Dark Engineers of Satan?

[JAQ]

You know, I once had a fundamentalist lecture me on the evils of The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe.This doesn't actually surprise me. C.S. Lewis was hardly a radical theologian, but his approach to Christianity was pretty ecumenical, and some of the ideas he expressed in the Narnia books (such as the notion that Persians Calormenes who were faithful to Allah Tash were really worshiping Jesus Aslan, in a way) are contrary to fundamentalist theology.