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Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 03:54 PM
You're just having trouble accepting that I am God.
It's hard. You'll get past it.
If by "God" you mean "a dweeb", then I accepted it long ago.
Knuckles
10-24-2007, 04:02 PM
Who says dweeb any more?
It is the most appropriate term for Buckyrig, whether currently fashionable or not.
You oaf.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 04:04 PM
Who says dweeb any more?
Dweebs.
Yeah, nice comeback. What a dweeb.
MattWaterman
10-24-2007, 04:24 PM
This thread isn't "wow"-ing me quite like it used to...
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 04:32 PM
This thread isn't "wow"-ing me quite like it used to...
Almost as if this degeneration of discourse into nonsense is somehow...what's the word I'm looking for...inferior?
Lacking significant substance, point, or validity?
Huh?
Huh?
:slap:
MattWaterman
10-24-2007, 04:44 PM
I feel bad about that.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 05:42 PM
Criminey. :sure:
Knuckles
10-24-2007, 06:39 PM
It is the most appropriate term for Buckyrig, whether currently fashionable or not.
You oaf.
Now you're just being mean.
It's okay, internet people aren't real and therefore have no feelings.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 06:42 PM
Is that a joke about diabetic neuropathy, you jerk? :mad:
Way to judge me before I answer, crapcicle. The answer is no, it was not a joke about diabetic neuropathy.
An englishman, an irishman and diabetic neuropathy walk into a bar....
Knuckles
10-24-2007, 06:48 PM
It's okay, internet people aren't real and therefore have no feelings.
Did you just say that I'm not real?
Knuckles
10-24-2007, 06:53 PM
Yes! Cause I'm most definitely keeping it real.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 06:57 PM
An englishman, an irishman and diabetic neuropathy walk into a bar....
Well that just doesn't make any sense.
Stricken!
I'm sure you're programmed to say that.
Knuckles
10-24-2007, 06:59 PM
So, are you not real?
I'm the only one here who's real. I have no evidence that any of the rest of you exist outside of the web.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 07:06 PM
I'm the only one here who's real. I have no evidence that any of the rest of you exist outside of the web.
I've done this routine already.
3'LL too.
:)
Knuckles
10-24-2007, 07:08 PM
Since its halloween soon, can I be a ghost? I can haunt this board.
Boo!
Nick Kerklaan
10-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Since its halloween soon, can I be a ghost? I can haunt this board.
You can only be a ghost if it's in a positive, life-affirming way. None of this "I failed to complete some important task in life so now I'm all tortured and angst-filled" bullshit.
Bucky, I know you want how you feel about integrity and meaningfulness in art to be the objective standard of integrity and meaningfulness in art, but it isn't. I don't know how anyone could possibly argue that their opinion was anything more than just that - one person's opinion, unless they were insane. Are you insane, Bucky?
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 10:23 PM
Are you insane, Bucky?
If you're not insane...you're wasting your time.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 10:27 PM
In fact let's stop this "life-affirming" shit that I never said myself...but works as an easily mockable label.
Constructive or Thoughtful vs Reporting from The Muck
Works better for me. :thumbs:
Nick Kerklaan
10-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Yeah, and I still say that "The Muck" is all in your perspective. One man's sad sack nihilistic bullshit is another man's touching, life-changing read. Who am I/you to judge?
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Who are you to say that I am not the best arbiter on Earth?
Ok...now I'm being a shit...but that is the degradation of the thread...at points at least.
Nick Kerklaan
10-24-2007, 10:36 PM
Well, what did you expect, really? A structured, scholarly discussion? This is a comic book forum, not a philosophy class.
I respect what you tried to do with this thread, and I think you achieved what you set out to - you presented an issue, a bunch of people gave their opinions, the thread is now 19 pages long. I don't know what else you're looking for, really.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 10:38 PM
A blow job.
Nick Kerklaan
10-24-2007, 10:40 PM
Okay... but my cocaine cartel only has so many open spots, y'know.
Buckyrig
10-24-2007, 10:48 PM
Well, what did you expect, really? A structured, scholarly discussion? This is a comic book forum, not a philosophy class.
I'm not sure there is a such thing as a "structured, scholarly discussion". :laugh: I think that's just a conceit some people comfort themselves with.
I'm just alluding to the inherent flaw in the argument that it is just my opinion...and that other people's opinions are valid...but amongst those opinions are the opinions that other specific group's or individual's opinions are patently wrong. See the problem? :D (I'm breaking your shoes at this point...don't get too hot over it.)
I respect what you tried to do with this thread, and I think you achieved what you set out to - you presented an issue, a bunch of people gave their opinions, the thread is now 19 pages long. I don't know what else you're looking for, really.
I don't know...just cracks me up. Lots of talk about improving the industry and all that good stuff...Jal's story would seem to be a fuel to push onward. (Your name is also now imprinted in my head after reading what you've said.)
But, unfortunately, I don't have a kick-ass Wolverine drawing from him to post.
Every once in a while, I try (http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=100596) to treat this place like something besides a bulletin board for odd jobs.
I've been told before I'm an idiot for it.
Maybe I should give up. :har:
I do have an idea for a kick-ass Wolverine story though...
Nick Kerklaan
10-24-2007, 11:23 PM
I'm not sure there is a such thing as a "structured, scholarly discussion". I think that's just a conceit some people comfort themselves with.
I'm just alluding to the inherent flaw in the argument that it is just my opinion...and that other people's opinions are valid...but amongst those opinions are the opinions that other specific group's or individual's opinions are patently wrong. See the problem? (I'm breaking your shoes at this point...don't get too hot over it.)
Yeah, I really try to avoid the "That's just, like, your opinon, man" arguing technique, but sometimes I can't help it. I realize it's a flawed argument, but in this case it's a reaction to the idea of an objective standard of... really, anything, but in this case, "deepness"... which is kind of a sticking point for me. I certainly appreciate debates like this, but in the end I really just think everyone should be groovy and like what they like and, like, be excellent to each other and some other hippie bullshit like that. But, no really, I am a hippie at heart probably so that's where I'm coming from.
I don't know...just cracks me up. Lots of talk about improving the industry and all that good stuff...Jal's story would seem to be a fuel to push onward. (Your name is also now imprinted in my head after reading what you've said.)
Thanks, though it's quite undeserved. Everyone involved in this thread has had interesting things to say, most of it far smarter than anything I've pulled out. I'm in no way qualified to debate things like the nature of art or whatever because I just haven't experienced nearly as much as I'd like. Nor am I qualified by virtue of being a successful, or even working-hard-on-my-way-to-being-successful, artist. I'm 21 with a high school education, I work at a supermarket and I've never finished a complete comic script because I get distracted too easily. I don't know what this entire paragraph is if not a sympathy grab other than a longwinded way of saying, uh, I don't necesarily know what I'm talking about at all.
Every once in a while, I try to treat this place like something besides a bulletin board for odd jobs.
I've been told before I'm an idiot for it.
Maybe I should give up.
Nah, it's cool. I'm really glad you started this thread, and I like I said, appreciate what you've tried to do with it. It's threads like this that usually pull me away from lurking a forum (I've been lurking DW for years, though to be fair the thread that pulled me in here was the "Best Comic Artist in the world" one, but trust me when I say this is the kind of thing that would get to me to de-lurk also).
I do have an idea for a kick-ass Wolverine story though...
Me too. It's called "Ultimate Wolverine", and basically it reboots the character to help him connect better with a younger generation and pull in new readers and there's not really very much action mostly just talking over pages and pages and
oh wait. Never mind.
I'm curious to see what everyone makes of this: Obsessive Consumption exhibition (http://jenbekman.com/artists/kate_bingaman-burt/statement.php)
I'd give you my take on it but I fear I would wear out my 'F' key.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 09:11 AM
Insufficient data.
Lady's site is down. :sure:
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 09:30 AM
Well, what did you expect, really? A structured, scholarly discussion? This is a comic book forum, not a philosophy class.
I respect what you tried to do with this thread, and I think you achieved what you set out to - you presented an issue, a bunch of people gave their opinions, the thread is now 19 pages long. I don't know what else you're looking for, really.
He's looking for us to break down and agree that life is all flowers and sausages. Which it is not.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 09:39 AM
If anything, I'm looking for some kind of aspiration that art should be an important part of the social structure which explores the frontier edges of human knowledge...or rather, that it at least attempts to.
The rest is distraction.
Jesus! I know I don't often explain myself well...but come on! :p
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 09:44 AM
I'm curious to see what everyone makes of this: Obsessive Consumption exhibition (http://jenbekman.com/artists/kate_bingaman-burt/statement.php)
I'd give you my take on it but I fear I would wear out my 'F' key.
Ohboyohboyohboy!!! Now we get to break out the...masturbation...word again!
:thumbs:
Seriously though, while I have negative interest in something like this I will give her a sliver of credit insofar as it's original, at least. Say what you want about Chris Crocker but at least he had the idea first...
If anything, I'm looking for some kind of aspiration that art should be an important part of the social structure which explores the frontier edges of human knowledge...or rather, that it at least attempts to.
The rest is distraction.
Jesus! I know I don't often explain myself well...but come on! :p
I think what you're describing DOES exist but like practically everything else in life is not the norm held by the majority. If it were it would automatically fall into the mediocrity class.
Wolverine?!?!? Stop being average and raise the level of Art, you hack!
Go read some Brian Vaughn :D
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 09:51 AM
If anything, I'm looking for some kind of aspiration that art should be an important part of the social structure which explores the frontier edges of human knowledge...or rather, that it at least attempts to.
Heh. I think we already have. :eek: :laugh: And the test results say: 50% chance existential nihilism and 50% chance eternal enlightenment.
How am I not myself?
:har:
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 12:40 PM
I don't even know what's going on anymore. :huh:
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 12:47 PM
You've never seen I (heart) Huckabees?
:cry:
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 01:02 PM
If anything, I'm looking for some kind of aspiration that art should be an important part of the social structure which explores the frontier edges of human knowledge...or rather, that it at least attempts to.
Why can't some art just be about a sad dude who's sad? Or, to put it another way, where the fuck is the aspiration to explore the frontier edges of humanity in X3?
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 01:05 PM
X3 is throwaway entertainment.
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 01:19 PM
X3 is throwaway entertainment.
Okay, explain how you differentiate throwaway entertainment from "meaningful art", for lack of a better word.
Because that is what is at the very heart of the X-Men property. The fgact that they are different and discriminated against yet have to live with who they are in a hostile world. Of ALL the properties to raise the bar, it should've been X3. 1 & 2 were decent with that.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 01:26 PM
Because that is what is at the very heart of the X-Men property. The fgact that they are different and discriminated against yet have to live with who they are in a hostile world. Of ALL the properties to raise the bar, it should've been X3. 1 & 2 were decent with that.
Well, the did try to adress - however badly - the question of whether or not one would change something that is an intrinsic part of him or her in order to find acceptance.
But, it was just a popcorn movie.
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 01:34 PM
So first you're insisting that art should be an important part of the social structure which explores the frontier edges of human knowledge, and next you're defending X3 because it was "just a popcorn movie".
So... what are you saying, exactly?
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 01:37 PM
So... what are you saying, exactly?
I'm compartmentalizing.
I could really start to break things down further (high art vs lower art)...but I'm low on gas here.
X3 completely bombed on their message. At the end Rogue got cured form mutantism for a boy who accepted her and then they were both happy! Meanwhile, Kitty probably got dumped via email right after the high of saving the mutant kid from Juggernaut.
Thats a complete 180 on the message. Not only did it lack higher thinking it actually harpooned it.
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 01:42 PM
I'm compartmentalizing.
I could really start to break things down further (high art vs lower art)...but I'm low on gas here.
High art vs. low art distinctions are just some pretentious bullshit, and a way for you defend liking things you can't justify as "high art", i.e. "It was great, for low art."
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 01:43 PM
X3 completely bombed on their message. At the end Rogue got cured form mutantism for a boy who accepted her and then they were both happy! Meanwhile, Kitty probably got dumped via email right after the high of saving the mutant kid from Juggernaut.
Thats a complete 180 on the message. Not only did it lack higher thinking it actually harpooned it.
Oh, definitely. But it had all the summer movie nonsense one looks for.
By the way...has anyone ever seen The Contender with Joan Allen. Talk about harpooning your own message. :blink:
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 01:45 PM
High art vs. low art distinctions are just some pretentious bullshit, and a way for you defend liking things you can't justify as "high art", i.e. "It was great, for low art."
Aristotle started it! :nyah:
He also described the distinctions. So did George Bernard Shaw and I'm sure a slew of others. Those just happen to be the ones I'm familiar with.
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 01:47 PM
Well, fuck Aristotle, I guess.
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 02:20 PM
Nick, I get you in that those subjective judgements, usually by those such as the "learn-ed", usually reek of classism and that makes the terms very unpalatable. But on another level they are helpful, even just on a functional level of "what do I want to watch tonight?" If it's the weekend and my girlfriend and I want to see something that makes us think and something we might discuss afterward then we might see a "high art" movie, as we're using the term here. Something like, well, I (heart) Huckabees or Children of Men. On the other hand, if I'm just freakin beat from work, don't want to think, and have a free hour or two, I might throw in Dawn of the Dead or an X-men movie. That's in no way saying Dawn or the X-movies are not good. Just that the viewer goes in with a differernt expectation is all...
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 02:23 PM
Were you like a grip on I (heart) Huckabees or something? :confused:
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Nick, I get you in that those subjective judgements, usually by those such as the "learn-ed", usually reek of classism and that makes the terms very unpalatable. But on another level they are helpful, even just on a functional level of "what do I want to watch tonight?" If it's the weekend and my girlfriend and I want to see something that makes us think and something we might discuss afterward then we might see a "high art" movie, as we're using the term here. Something like, well, I (heart) Huckabees or Children of Men. On the other hand, if I'm just freakin beat from work, don't want to think, and have a free hour or two, I might throw in Dawn of the Dead or an X-men movie. That's in no way saying Dawn or the X-movies are not good. Just that the viewer goes in with a differernt expectation is all...
Okay, that's a good point.
It just seems to me that for someone who prides themself on being "intelligent", or "deep" or whatever, something called "low art" would have a sort of stigma about it. Even just generally, "low" compared to "high" seems to suggest a... I don't know... lesser value, as a work of art. And while Children of Men is one of my absolute favourite movies that I've seen in the last year or so, so is Grindhouse. They both made me go, "Wow", for different reasons, and to draw distinctions between the two of "high" or "low"... it just seems to trivialize what I got from them. Is that crazy?
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 02:29 PM
Were you like a grip on I (heart) Huckabees or something? :confused:
No.
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 02:40 PM
Okay, that's a good point.
It just seems to me that for someone who prides themself on being "intelligent", or "deep" or whatever, something called "low art" would have a sort of stigma about it. Even just generally, "low" compared to "high" seems to suggest a... I don't know... lesser value, as a work of art. And while Children of Men is one of my absolute favourite movies that I've seen in the last year or so, so is Grindhouse. They both made me go, "Wow", for different reasons, and to draw distinctions between the two of "high" or "low"... it just seems to trivialize what I got from them. Is that crazy?
No I completely agree. "High" and "low" are loaded terms. If you want to get me going on the injustice that's been done to the horror genre we could fill a good 10 pages there too (...if a movie's "good" horror then it's suddenly suspense; how the hell does that work???) And yes, I've been around the university types and their sneering and that can can get quite vulgar too.
Example! And one thing that turned the tide of my opinion about Stephan King. There was this guy in one of my classes back in college and he was just the epitomy of the "knowledge bully", this angry, nerdy, socially inept twerp who had been so beaten down by life that he was retaliating against anyone and everyone. Clearly he had bought into the university system and, in this one instance, he was railing against Stephan King, how he was nothing, how history would forget him, etc. It was like the author had murdered the kid's dog or something. And it made me realize that there were a lot people out there, A LOT, that found it "cool" to degrade King in a misguided way of propping up the "high art" authors. And worse, many of those people were the opinion-makers in college. And it sorta pissed me off. I've since gone back and read some King and, y'know what? Surprise, surprise, the best selling author and face of an entire genre actually wrote some decent books. :rolleyes: :yawn:
Now...Like I said, I didn't go in expecting James Joyce. If I got that I would have been pissed! Instead I got a good, fun read that made me hesitate before flipping off the lights at night. And that's fine!!!!!! The unfortunate part, like you say, is the implications that "low" and "high" present in relation to the respective forms of art....
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 02:43 PM
Okay, that's a good point.
It just seems to me that for someone who prides themself on being "intelligent", or "deep" or whatever, something called "low art" would have a sort of stigma about it. Even just generally, "low" compared to "high" seems to suggest a... I don't know... lesser value, as a work of art. And while Children of Men is one of my absolute favourite movies that I've seen in the last year or so, so is Grindhouse. They both made me go, "Wow", for different reasons, and to draw distinctions between the two of "high" or "low"... it just seems to trivialize what I got from them. Is that crazy?
Can I get you to make a judgement by invoking porn? :laugh:
Is porn art the same way as Kurosawa is in this overly-egalitarian assessment.
Good Lord! You're worse than me. :laugh:
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Can I get you to make a judgement by invoking porn?
Is porn art the same way as Kurosawa is in this overly-egalitarian assessment.
Good Lord! You're worse than me.
Have you never watched artful porn? Have you never read good erotica? Porn can be beautiful and even emotionally affecting, not just wanking material.
How's that?
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Example! And one thing that turned the tide of my opinion about Stephan King. There was this guy in one of my classes back in college and he was just the epitomy of the "knowledge bully", this angry, nerdy, socially inept twerp who had been so beaten down by life that he was retaliating against anyone and everyone. Clearly he had bought into the university system and, in this one instance, he was railing against Stephan King, how he was nothing, how history would forget him, etc. It was like the author had murdered the kid's dog or something.
And was this "knowledge bully's" name, Matt?
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 02:50 PM
Can I get you to make a judgement by invoking porn? :laugh:
Is porn art the same way as Kurosawa is in this overly-egalitarian assessment.
Good Lord! You're worse than me. :laugh:
HA! Porn actually works in the reverse! That supposed "high art" porn on Skinemax is crap! The music is stupid, the feeling is so staged, and, worst of all, the positions make zero sense! My girlfriend gets downright pissed ("Oh come on, he f*cking her belly button!")
On the other hand, the down and dirty stuff actually keeps it real. :laugh:
Myself....well, I might be more of an "Ilsa, Tigress of Siberia" guy but we shant go into that now... :har:
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 02:51 PM
And was this "knowledge bully's" name, Matt?
That's deep, Bucky.
:laugh:
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 02:51 PM
No I completely agree. "High" and "low" are loaded terms. If you want to get me going on the injustice that's been done to the horror genre we could fill a good 10 pages there too (...if a movie's "good" horror then it's suddenly suspense; how the hell does that work???) And yes, I've been around the university types and their sneering and that can can get quite vulgar too.
Example! And one thing that turned the tide of my opinion about Stephan King. There was this guy in one of my classes back in college and he was just the epitomy of the "knowledge bully", this angry, nerdy, socially inept twerp who had been so beaten down by life that he was retaliating against anyone and everyone. Clearly he had bought into the university system and, in this one instance, he was railing against Stephan King, how he was nothing, how history would forget him, etc. It was like the author had murdered the kid's dog or something. And it made me realize that there were a lot people out there, A LOT, that found it "cool" to degrade King in a misguided way of propping up the "high art" authors. And worse, many of those people were the opinion-makers in college. And it sorta pissed me off. I've since gone back and read some King and, y'know what? Surprise, surprise, the best selling author and face of an entire genre actually wrote some decent books.
Now...Like I said, I didn't go in expecting James Joyce. If I got that I would have been pissed! Instead I got a good, fun read that made me hesitate before flipping off the lights at night. And that's fine!!!!!! The unfortunate part, like you say, is the implications that "low" and "high" present in relation to the respective forms of art..
Yeah okay, it seems like we're on the same page. I agree with you pretty much a hundred percent. I must also add that some of my favourite novels ever have been Stephen King novels, and the most of a James Joyce book I ever got through was, maybe, 10 pages.
Mike225
10-25-2007, 02:52 PM
Porn can be beautiful and even emotionally affecting, not just wanking material. :laugh:
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Agree. THat's signature material right there...
Mike225
10-25-2007, 02:57 PM
Thanks, Matt.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:01 PM
Yeah okay, it seems like we're on the same page. I agree with you pretty much a hundred percent. I must also add that some of my favourite novels ever have been Stephen King novels, and the most of a James Joyce book I ever got through was, maybe, 10 pages.
Didn't Matt already mention Ullyses in here somewhere? I can't see the house anymore.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:02 PM
HA! Porn actually works in the reverse! That supposed "high art" porn on Skinemax is crap! The music is stupid, the feeling is so staged, and, worst of all, the positions make zero sense! My girlfriend gets downright pissed ("Oh come on, he f*cking her belly button!")
On the other hand, the down and dirty stuff actually keeps it real. :laugh:
Myself....well, I might be more of an "Ilsa, Tigress of Siberia" guy but we shant go into that now... :har:
I fucking know better. I fucking know better. :(
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 03:19 PM
Didn't Matt already mention Ullyses in here somewhere? I can't see the house anymore.
It's okay. If we head in any direction long enough we're bound to come across a majore road or something.
But to that point: Reading Joyce isn't necessarily enjoyable in the classic sense. Certainly not like reading King or watching X-Men. It's a mental excercise, in a way. You enjoy it, in a sense, in the same way you enjoy putting a puzzle together or enjoy learning something new. Ulysses.....hell, you barely read that thing at all, it's more like a work of art. I've only read it in its entirity once (though I've picked it up several times to go back to things and have been currently doing so with The Dubliners). Again we run into the connotations of the terms, "High" and "low", but whereas one watches X-men as a diversion, one reads Joyce for enrichment.
Yeah. I know: :yawn: .
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:25 PM
It's okay. If we head in any direction long enough we're bound to come across a majore road or something.
But to that point: Reading Joyce isn't necessarily enjoyable in the classic sense. Certainly not like reading King or watching X-Men. It's a mental excercise, in a way. You enjoy it, in a sense, in the same way you enjoy putting a puzzle together or enjoy learning something new. Ulysses.....hell, you barely read that thing at all, it's more like a work of art. I've only read it in its entirity once (though I've picked it up several times to go back to things and have been currently doing so with The Dubliners). Again we run into the connotations of the terms, "High" and "low", but whereas one watches X-men as a diversion, one reads Joyce for enrichment.
Yeah. I know: :yawn: .
That's righ, mofo! You said that long ago.
The Dead was mentioned on Bionic Woman last night...how's that fit for you? :laugh:
IMPLOSION!
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 03:28 PM
Agree. THat's signature material right there...
I'm... flattered?
It's okay. If we head in any direction long enough we're bound to come across a majore road or something.
But to that point: Reading Joyce isn't necessarily enjoyable in the classic sense. Certainly not like reading King or watching X-Men. It's a mental excercise, in a way. You enjoy it, in a sense, in the same way you enjoy putting a puzzle together or enjoy learning something new. Ulysses.....hell, you barely read that thing at all, it's more like a work of art. I've only read it in its entirity once (though I've picked it up several times to go back to things and have been currently doing so with The Dubliners). Again we run into the connotations of the terms, "High" and "low", but whereas one watches X-men as a diversion, one reads Joyce for enrichment.
Yeah. I know: .
Well, one of my other favourite novels is Naked Lunch so I get what you're saying. That said, I still don't like labelling things as high or low, even though, like you said, it's useful as a label. My relationship to any one work of art and to art in general is a personal one, as, I expect, is everyone's. It's cool to trade opinions and ideas, but I think it's a shame if anyone actually gives a shit what anyone else thinks about anything. Just like what you like, no need to justify. Anything's groovy if it works for you.
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 03:34 PM
That's righ, mofo! You said that long ago.
The Dead was mentioned on Bionic Woman last night...how's that fit for you? :laugh:
IMPLOSION!
ANNND Battlestar Galactica was referenced on South Park! It all comes full circle!!!
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:34 PM
I'm... flattered?
Well, one of my other favourite novels is Naked Lunch so I get what you're saying. That said, I still don't like labelling things as high or low, even though, like you said, it's useful as a label. My relationship to any one work of art and to art in general is a personal one, as, I expect, is everyone's. It's cool to trade opinions and ideas, but I think it's a shame if anyone actually gives a shit what anyone else thinks about anything. Just like what you like, no need to justify. Anything's groovy if it works for you.
Friggin' hippie. :laugh:
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:35 PM
ANNND Battlestar Galactica was referenced on South Park! It all comes full circle!!!
It was Buck Rogers you ignorant slut!
All your opinions are hereby rendered null and void!
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 03:40 PM
Friggin' hippie.
Hey man, if you've, like, got something against, like, universal peace and understanding, man, then you can just, like, put it in your pipe and, like, smoke it, dude.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:40 PM
Well, one of my other favourite novels is Naked Lunch so I get what you're saying.
That book sucked.
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 03:41 PM
That book sucked.
Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 03:41 PM
It was Buck Rogers you ignorant slut!
All your opinions are hereby rendered null and void!
Heh. You sure? Cause, I mean, when Cartman said, "Last Week: On Battlestar Gallactica..." I kinda figured, y'know...that he was talking about Battlestar Galactica...
:laugh: :nyah:
(...Heh. I do know the one you're talking about though. The one I'm talking about was last night's, the new one...)
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:43 PM
I don't have cable anymore.
Cuz I'm all edgy and shit...back to the anti-murder manifesto.
Phatman
10-25-2007, 03:43 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/techchron/2006/06/19/tool.jpg
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:44 PM
Did you find a new toy, Phats? :laugh:
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:46 PM
Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
The state of Massachusetts agrees with me. :nyah:
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 03:51 PM
The state of Massachusetts agrees with me.
Not according to their Supreme Court they don't.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:53 PM
Not according to their Supreme Court they don't.
Activist judges subverting the will of the people. :mad:
BONFIRE!
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 03:53 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/techchron/2006/06/19/tool.jpg
You tread a dangerous path, young Phatman...
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4527/bunnymanqa7.jpg
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Activist judges subverting the will of the people.
BONFIRE!
Settle down there, pinko.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 03:58 PM
Bro, you don't even wanna know how hard I'll rage all over this place!
Seriously, bro.
Nick Kerklaan
10-25-2007, 03:59 PM
You couldn't rage your way out of a paper bag.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 04:00 PM
BUDDY!
You don't even know, buddy.
Budaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 04:02 PM
I rage at odd moments....
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/117/47b7ce00b3127cce98548b8jx6.jpg
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 04:59 PM
Quiet, hick.
I'm gettin' all Strong Island up in here.
Screeny
10-25-2007, 05:08 PM
I rage at odd moments....
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/117/47b7ce00b3127cce98548b8jx6.jpg
Are you drinking tea? And why are you eating a giant cauliflower?
No no, he's the one lurking in the background. Although I believe he is about to create a 'blue angel' using the tea candles situated behind him.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 05:13 PM
Greg Land Rulez!
See? That's dumber than anything I've ever posted.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 05:18 PM
See? That's dumber than anything I've ever posted.
You're dumber than anything I've ever posted.
Or spider for that matter.
Yeah, you got me there. I'm no match for that witty riposte.
You nitwit.
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 05:21 PM
You're your own stillborn twin, you left-handed bowler! :mad:
MattWaterman
10-25-2007, 05:23 PM
No no, he's the one lurking in the background. Although I believe he is about to create a 'blue angel' using the tea candles situated behind him.
Dammit!
I motherfucking raging! Any fool can see that I'm raging!!! Look at me rage!
Dammit!
I motherfucking raging! Any fool can see that I'm raging!!! Look at me rage!
No, dude, that's gas.
You're your own stillborn twin, you left-handed bowler! :mad:
I am not left-handed! :mad:
Phatman
10-25-2007, 05:27 PM
Greg Land Rulez!
LIEFELD IS GOD
Buckyrig
10-25-2007, 05:28 PM
Liefeld is Eric Clapton??? :huh:
Screeny
10-25-2007, 05:32 PM
Dumbledore's Gay? Well I never!
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it!
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 02:17 AM
http://www.geocities.com/skavinter/lifefeldisgod.bmp
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 12:45 PM
Discuss. :happy:
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 01:56 PM
Hm, you raise a very good point. I'd respond in depth, but I've gotta bust my ass today if I want to reach my agricultural quotas.
Mike225
10-26-2007, 02:00 PM
You're a farmer?
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 02:02 PM
Everyone's a farmer under communism.
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 02:04 PM
You're a farmer?
He's a sucker for low pitches.
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:03 PM
I don't know what that means, but will assume it's slang for "He's awesome". So thanks!
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:05 PM
It means you swing at shit in the dirt....in baseball!
But you're obviously not American, so... :sure:
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:09 PM
Obviously not American!!!??
Just what in the hell is that supposed to mean!!!!!!!???
I'lll have you know I'm as American as cold tomato soup and socialist reform!
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:12 PM
It's the spelling. :p
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:15 PM
Okay, you got me. I use the King's English because I occupy one of Britain's illustrious colonies.
Aka Canada.
Mike225
10-26-2007, 03:16 PM
Dude, you're from America Jr?! :laugh:
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:17 PM
We prefer to think of ourselves as a larger, emptier America.
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:17 PM
Dude, you're from America Jr?! :laugh:
We're calling it North Wisconsin now.
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:18 PM
We're calling it North Wisconsin now.
Wait a minute, I don't recall this being run by me...
Mike225
10-26-2007, 03:19 PM
:laugh:
MattWaterman
10-26-2007, 03:24 PM
Dude, you're from America Jr?! :laugh:
The laugh sign at the end is what makes this. :laugh: :rolleyes: Laughing at someone because they're fucking Canadian...
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:25 PM
Your name is Matt Waterman?! :laugh:
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:25 PM
New thread topic...Which Canadian would you most like to fuck? :laugh:
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:26 PM
Well for all the ladies out there, I think the answer is obvious...
Mike225
10-26-2007, 03:27 PM
New thread topic...Which Canadian would you most like to fuck? :laugh:Pre-Crisis Pamela Anderson!
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:28 PM
Pre-Crisis Pamela Anderson!
:laugh:
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:32 PM
What about Pre-Crisis Sasquatch? He was in Alpha Flight, right?
MattWaterman
10-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Ottowa.
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:34 PM
Ottowa.
Ambitious, ain'tcha?
Nick Kerklaan
10-26-2007, 03:34 PM
Ottowa.
Pssst. That's a city, Matt.
MattWaterman
10-26-2007, 03:35 PM
I don't like Frenchies.
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:37 PM
I don't like Frenchies.
So many many inappropriate jokes...system meltdown. :confused:
Mike225
10-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Screeny's French.
Buckyrig
10-26-2007, 03:42 PM
Archie The Pig Man's French.
You don't say.
MattWaterman
10-26-2007, 03:46 PM
Well, if he's going to pick a nickname like that he must be....
Mike225
10-29-2007, 03:06 PM
Since we're talking about inspirational stories: http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1300434#post1300434
I thought this would fit.
Nick Kerklaan
10-29-2007, 04:40 PM
You're right, it does.
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