View Full Version : British Court cites inaccuracies in "An Inconvenient Truth"
Mwynn
10-11-2007, 11:33 AM
Gore climate film's 'nine errors'
A High Court judge who ruled on whether climate change film, An Inconvenient Truth, could be shown in schools said it contains "nine scientific errors".
Mr Justice Burton said the government could still send the film to schools - if accompanied by guidance giving the other side of the argument.
He was ruling on an attempt by a Kent school governor to ban the film from secondary schools.
The Oscar-winning film was made by former US Vice-President Al Gore.
The judge said nine statements in the film were not supported by mainstream scientific consensus.
In his final verdict, the judge said the film could be shown as long as updated guidelines were followed.
These say teachers should point out controversial or disputed sections.
Without the guidance, updated after the case was launched, the government would have been breaking the law, the judge said.
The government has sent the film to all secondary schools in England, and the administrations in Wales and Scotland have done the same.
'Landmark victory'
Mr Justice Burton told London's High Court that distributing the film without the guidance to counter its "one-sided" views would breach education laws.
The Department for Children, Schools and Families was not under a duty to forbid the film, provided it was accompanied by the guidance, he said.
"I conclude that the claimant substantially won this case by virtue of my finding that, but for the new guidance note, the film would have been distributed in breach of sections 406 and 407 of the 1996 Education Act", he said.
The nine errors stated by the judge included:
Mr Gore's assertion that a sea-level rise of up to 20 feet would be caused by melting of ice in either West Antarctica or Greenland "in the near future". The judge said this was "distinctly alarmist" and it was common ground that if Greenland's ice melted it would release this amount of water - "but only after, and over, millennia".
Mr Gore's assertion that the disappearance of snow on Mount Kilimanjaro in East Africa was expressly attributable to global warming - the court heard the scientific consensus was that it cannot be established the snow recession is mainly attributable to human-induced climate change.
Mr Gore's reference to a new scientific study showing that, for the first time, polar bears had actually drowned "swimming long distances - up to 60 miles - to find the ice". The judge said: "The only scientific study that either side before me can find is one which indicates that four polar bears have recently been found drowned because of a storm."
The case was brought by school governor Stewart Dimmock, from Dover, a father of two.
His lawyers described the ruling as a "landmark victory".
Mr Dimmock said: "I am elated with today's result, but still disappointed that the film is able to be shown in schools.
"If it was not for the case brought by myself, our young people would still be being indoctrinated with this political spin."
The judge awarded Mr Dimmock two-thirds of his estimated legal costs of more than £200,000, against the government.
BBC environment analyst Roger Harrabin said the ruling would be "embarrassing for Mr Gore" but would not affect the government, which said it is happy that the judge did not dismiss the film's mainstream argument.
But, he added, this controversy could encourage the public to think there was scientific doubt about the facts of climate change.
Children's Minister Kevin Brennan had earlier said: "It is important to be clear that the central arguments put forward in An Inconvenient Truth, that climate change is mainly caused by man-made emissions of greenhouse gases and will have serious adverse consequences, are supported by the vast weight of scientific opinion.
"Nothing in the judge's comments today detract from that."
http://newparty.co.uk/articles/inaccuracies-gore.html
Heh! Who proved it would take no sooner than a millenia to melt the ice??? The North Pole has shrunk significantly in, what, the past 20 years.
And those pesky polar bear; they didn't drown looking for ice. They drown because of a storm that caught them as they floated around the ocean looking for ice. :D
Justice41
10-11-2007, 12:42 PM
It's all lies anyways. Any idiot like Gore can cobble together video to make things look dire. But the idiots that believe this bullshit without question are the true issue. Gotta wonder why people want to believe this shit. What in their lives makes them so negative and willing to believe all the negative shit thrown at them?
Wise words from Mr. Positivity. Keep reaching for that rainbow, Justice. :thumbs:
Buckyrig
10-11-2007, 12:52 PM
I'm buying a horse!
Mike225
10-11-2007, 12:54 PM
It's all lies anyways. Any idiot like Gore can cobble together video to make things look dire. But the idiots that believe this bullshit without question are the true issue. Gotta wonder why people want to believe this shit. What in their lives makes them so negative and willing to believe all the negative shit thrown at them?If people didn't, Nostradamus would be out of work.
C. Wallace
10-11-2007, 02:19 PM
Heh! Who proved it would take no sooner than a millenia to melt the ice??? The North Pole has shrunk significantly in, what, the past 20 years. :D
First. Nobody even mentioned the North pole. The North pole is (geographically) located in the middle of the Artic Ocean. Greenland is an entirely separate area. Point being, West Antartica and Greenland were the geographic locatons referred to.
Second. Do you have any idea the catostrophic amounts of ice that would have to melt to raise the sea levels TWENTY feet?
Literally all of Greenland's ice would have to melt...ALL OF IT. It is quite doubtful thay is going to happen in the NEAR future.
So there, meh! :nyah: :bounce:
C. Wallace
10-11-2007, 02:21 PM
It's all lies anyways. Any idiot like Gore can cobble together video to make things look dire. But the idiots that believe this bullshit without question are the true issue. Gotta wonder why people want to believe this shit. What in their lives makes them so negative and willing to believe all the negative shit thrown at them?
People believe what is fed to them, to lazy to think for themselves.
Knuckles
10-11-2007, 02:25 PM
Why are people so angry about if global warming is happening or not?
We produce tons of pollution that affect millions of children everyday. If the global warming scare will help cap pollution, why not let it happen. It might even be better for you and your children.
You know, I watched An Inconvenient Truth the other day. After all the hype and praise and "ooh, it's so powerful" I was pretty suprised to be sat in front of a movie length advert for Al Gore.
Al Gore looking pensively out a train window. Al Gore pensively using a laptop. Al Gore Pensively flying business class.
The implication that global warming is responsible for SARS, AIDS and so on was the point where I switched it off.
Not impressed in the slightest.
Mr.P.Phlegming
10-11-2007, 03:30 PM
Ha take that Earth! Score one for the assholes. That'll show you to not make plastic and have to rely on the human race for the greatest element since fire!
knockedoutpanzer
10-11-2007, 03:57 PM
You've probably never seen a British Judge.I have. They're all morons who if not pissed out of their heads are looking up obscure laws from 1300 AD on why criminals have more rights than tax payers.
If global warming is happening then it's now too late to do anything.
Either the car goes or the human race does but alot of rich twats want a new Mercedes... :laugh:
Justice41
10-11-2007, 03:58 PM
Why are people so angry about if global warming is happening or not?
We produce tons of pollution that affect millions of children everyday. If the global warming scare will help cap pollution, why not let it happen. It might even be better for you and your children.
Because it always comes down to Taxes when Libs start declaring crisis here and there. I say we shove AlGore into or under an Ice sheet so he can pretend to be Superman. He can hold it all up.
It's all about taxing the witless wonders who fall for this shit. AlGores coffers have gotten fat of late with donations.
The Scribe
10-11-2007, 04:03 PM
Gore just wants attention. His movie is a comedy, full of false "facts." He burns more electric than you, still drives his SUV, flies in his jets, etc.
I'm glad he didn't become president. :p
http://www.morethings.com/fan/south_park/photo_gallery/al-gore-is-manbearpig.jpg
Buckyrig
10-11-2007, 04:05 PM
If he were President...we'd be further from The Brink...but whatever.
First. Nobody even mentioned the North pole. The North pole is (geographically) located in the middle of the Artic Ocean. Greenland is an entirely separate area. Point being, West Antartica and Greenland were the geographic locatons referred to.
Second. Do you have any idea the catostrophic amounts of ice that would have to melt to raise the sea levels TWENTY feet?
Literally all of Greenland's ice would have to melt...ALL OF IT. It is quite doubtful thay is going to happen in the NEAR future.
So there, meh! :nyah: :bounce:
I just think it's funny that a judge is pooping on GOre's evidence, in effect lawfully ruling his own opinion is correct. My point about the arctic circle and the antarctic peninsula is that if those areas can lose that much mass in a short time why is it scientifically unfeasible that greenland, closer to equator than either pole, can only lose it's mass over a millenia?
It's no more or less far fetched than Gore's statement, thus silly to lawfully rule on it. No one ever defined what "near Future" even meant! a day, a year, 15 years, 50 years....
The Scribe
10-11-2007, 04:07 PM
If he were President...we'd be further from The Brink...but whatever.
Sure. :rolleyes:
http://www.wildongifts.com/Gore_Bill.jpg
Gore just wants attention. His movie is a comedy, full of false "facts." He burns more electric than you, still drives his SUV, flies in his jets, etc.
I'm glad he didn't become president. :p
I bet you never saw it
Sure. :rolleyes:
http://www.wildongifts.com/Gore_Bill.jpg
Oh for goodness sake. You don't even know what socialism is.
Mike225
10-11-2007, 04:12 PM
:laugh:
The Scribe
10-11-2007, 04:32 PM
Oh for goodness sake. You don't even know what socialism is.
:rolleyes:
Don't make me call the INS orI.C.E. (http://www.tshirtheat.com/immigration_customs_enforcement/immigration_Featured/immigration_FEATURED_ICE-118b.gif) :p
Buckyrig
10-11-2007, 04:32 PM
Oh for goodness sake. You don't even know what socialism is.
Socialism is the natural extension of Christ's values when applied to economic theory.
I will never understand why Christians hate the concept so much. Somehow the greed-based system is more Godly than the bread-for-everyone concept. :blink:
I think it really comes down to the whole "Opiate of the Masses" comment...of course, Jesus wasn't a big fan of religion...you know what...screw it... :yawn:
Stop speaking the Truth! This is the really real world, dammit!
Justice41
10-11-2007, 05:10 PM
All religions are wacky and it's followers nuts. But back to this assclown, AlGore. I believe the Nobel foundation has continued it's spiral down to irrelevancy, with the possible awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to AlGore.
Buckyrig
10-11-2007, 05:15 PM
Arafat got the Peace Prize, dude!
You're just now getting that they're a little off their nut sometimes?
Justice41
10-11-2007, 05:32 PM
I did say the continued spiral down. What did that mean to you? Hell they Gave one to Jimaahh Caahhter
Buckyrig
10-12-2007, 05:50 PM
So, were we done here?
Mike225
10-12-2007, 05:51 PM
Unless you want to mention Gore won the Peace Prize, yeah.
Justice41
10-12-2007, 06:58 PM
Yeah we are done here unless you want to mention Gore is a complete and absolute rancid, yeast infected and hemorrhoidal asshole.
Buckyrig
10-12-2007, 07:08 PM
No. But I was hoping someone could point out the scripture that mentions being good stewards of the earth.
Screeny
10-12-2007, 07:11 PM
I could invent something if you like - it would be just as valid/invalid.
Justice41
10-12-2007, 10:53 PM
No. But I was hoping someone could point out the scripture that mentions being good stewards of the earth.
Religion again? Geez man get off it. If man said it it isn't the word of god.
The Scribe
10-12-2007, 10:57 PM
Religion again? Geez man get off it. If man said it it isn't the word of god.
:rolleyes:
Buckyrig
10-12-2007, 10:59 PM
I could invent something if you like - it would be just as valid/invalid.
You don't have to make it up. It's in there...I've just blocked out a lot of indoctrination. I can't recall chapter and verse. :)
ShanE
10-13-2007, 12:49 AM
HAL 9000: "Nothing can possibly go wrong ... go wrong ... go wrong. ..."
Scott James
10-13-2007, 08:03 AM
An Oscar. The Nobel Peace Prize. Now, can Al Gore win the presidency? (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article3055769.ece)
Scott James
10-13-2007, 08:07 AM
I will never understand why Christians hate the concept so much. Somehow the greed-based system is more Godly than the bread-for-everyone concept. :blink: Funny that you should mention that near the fiftieth anniversary of the release of Atlas Shrugged
Guru of greed: The cult of selfishness (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3052382.ece)
Buckyrig
10-13-2007, 12:38 PM
There was a yearly essay competition (can't remember if there was scholarship money involved) for writing about The Fountainhead back when I was in high school. Kept trying to get me to do it. :blink:
Seems creepy in retrospect.
Of course, Ayne Rand hated religion. That was probably the only thing keeping her from becoming the new GOP mascot.
Justice41
10-13-2007, 05:42 PM
Of course, Ayne Rand hated religion. That was probably the only thing keeping her from becoming the new GOP mascot.
C-Span just had a mix of Republicans and Libs Blabbering on about Rand.
Buckyrig
10-13-2007, 05:45 PM
The most recognizable objectivist to people on DW...
http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/~editor/matt/joshjohns/rorschach.gif
Enjoy...
Did they have anything interesting to say? I don't watch the TV, so I miss out on this stuff.
Justice41
10-13-2007, 06:09 PM
Did they have anything interesting to say? I don't watch the TV, so I miss out on this stuff.
Just caught John Fund yapping about how AlGore is teaching defeatism and then I flipped off. I like to catch these types of shows late at night when they repeat.
knockedoutpanzer
10-14-2007, 05:53 AM
Rand's dreary, vision (if thats the right word) seems horribly like Alastair Crowleys "Do as thou will shall be all of the law." She ain't even terribly original... :blink:
Al Gore's wife Tippa(did her parents not like her?)tried to destroy "The Dead Kennedys" one of my fave bands. :confused:
Mike225
10-14-2007, 09:01 AM
The most recognizable objectivist to people on DW...
http://www.silverbulletcomics.com/~editor/matt/joshjohns/rorschach.gif
Enjoy...That's only because pictures of Steve Ditko don't exist.
Buckyrig
10-14-2007, 11:14 AM
Al Gore's wife Tippa(did her parents not like her?)tried to destroy "The Dead Kennedys" one of my fave bands. :confused:
I'm not sure why this is in here...but is the the Frankenchrist debacle?
knockedoutpanzer
10-14-2007, 12:55 PM
I'm not sure why this is in here...but is the the Frankenchrist debacle?
yes it was along time ago in a galaxy alas not too far away... :laugh: it is a bit odd that I added it I guess I just really despise bloody Tippa Gore !
Buckyrig
10-14-2007, 01:03 PM
Didn't Jello leave after all that?
And if so...well...then Tipper did destroy your band...or am I missing something here? :huh:
knockedoutpanzer
10-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Didn't Jello leave after all that?
And if so...well...then Tipper did destroy your band...or am I missing something here? :huh:
i deny that i was ever in the Dead Kennedys, even though I can play "Too drunk to fuck."- the DK's got professionally done over by the state at the behest of Tippa and co -they had the IRS and the local "law enforcement" agencies go over them and I think they pretty much split after that.(1986 I think)
They re-formed but without Jello who got done for fraud by his own ex-band members.Beat that Oasis. :p :har:
The DK's attacked Ronnie Reagan and supposedly "left-wingers" in the democratic party like Governer Jerry Brown.
Gabriel Solis
10-17-2007, 01:29 AM
Man, f***k Gore!
They shoulda given the Peace Prize to Dubya! Terrorists attacks on U.S. soil since 2001? That's right, ZERO. It’s only gonna cost us a trillion dollars too! And only 3800 soldiers so far! (Don't count the mental ones, they'll starve on a street corner soon enough). 75,000 - 800,000 pesky Iraqi civilians. Is that all? No problem! Mission accomplished, motherf***ers.
F***k Gore and his little green flag.
All hail King W and the Private Army!
DemolitionSamurai
10-17-2007, 01:38 AM
My sass detector reading is off the charts!
Mike225
10-17-2007, 01:42 AM
Ha, you have a sass detector? :laugh:
DemolitionSamurai
10-17-2007, 01:43 AM
This forum usually breaks it. :<
Mike225
10-17-2007, 02:10 AM
It didn't break when you said you drink cock?
Biofungus
10-17-2007, 02:17 AM
It didn't break when you said you drink cock?
Maybe that wasn't sass :blink:
Mike225
10-17-2007, 02:21 AM
:eek:
DemolitionSamurai
10-17-2007, 09:02 AM
oh god when did i say that D:
Mike225
10-17-2007, 09:49 AM
I was trying to find it. It was a Coke vs Pepsi thread. I guess it got deleted.
Gabriel Solis
10-17-2007, 11:41 AM
9 errors? You mean they only found 9 errors so far? Give them time, there are like hundreds of facts to sort through. Don’t give up guys!
And what is so great about receiving a terrorist medal anyways?
It’s not like he was a civil rights leader. Or a human rights activist. Is he out trying to spread peace in the middle east? F*** peace! All he’s doing is brainwashing the masses. Pshh, Global Warming. What a p*ssy! If you wanna catapult the propaganda, do it with guns. You can’t just repeat it over and over and over for the truth to sink in. Give it to the decider! Like Rush Limbaugh says, there’s no peace without war.
9 errors? You mean they only found 9 errors so far? Give them time, there are like hundreds of facts to sort through. Don’t give up guys!
And what is so great about receiving a terrorist medal anyways?
It’s not like he was a civil rights leader. Or a human rights activist. Is he out trying to spread peace in the middle east? F*** peace! All he’s doing is brainwashing the masses. Pshh, Global Warming. What a p*ssy! If you wanna catapult the propaganda, do it with guns. You can’t just repeat it over and over and over for the truth to sink in. Give it to the decider! Like Rush Limbaugh says, there’s no peace without war.
:laugh:
Buckyrig
10-17-2007, 11:45 AM
9 errors? You mean they only found 9 errors so far? Give them time, there are like hundreds of facts to sort through. Don’t give up guys!
And what is so great about receiving a terrorist medal anyways?
It’s not like he was a civil rights leader. Or a human rights activist. Is he out trying to spread peace in the middle east? F*** peace! All he’s doing is brainwashing the masses. Pshh, Global Warming. What a p*ssy! If you wanna catapult the propaganda, do it with guns. You can’t just repeat it over and over and over for the truth to sink in. Give it to the decider! Like Rush Limbaugh says, there’s no peace without war.
Dude, I think you need to borrow some of knockedoutpanzer's Dead Kennedys records. :blink:
Mike225
10-17-2007, 11:48 AM
I propose that knockedoutpanzer has earned the right to a nickname, like my nickname is "Mike." I dub thee KOP. Or kop, if you prefer.
I propose that knockedoutpanzer has earned the right to a nickname, like my nickname is "Mike." I dub thee KOP. Or kop, if you prefer.
I was thinking 'Panzy', but whatever.
Mike225
10-17-2007, 11:50 AM
The Panz?
Mike225
10-17-2007, 11:52 AM
Outter?
Mike225
10-17-2007, 11:58 AM
Knockedoutpanzer is now K-panz.
Justice41
10-17-2007, 12:04 PM
9 errors? You mean they only found 9 errors so far? Give them time, there are like hundreds of facts to sort through. Don’t give up guys!
And what is so great about receiving a terrorist medal anyways?
It’s not like he was a civil rights leader. Or a human rights activist. Is he out trying to spread peace in the middle east? F*** peace! All he’s doing is brainwashing the masses. Pshh, Global Warming. What a p*ssy! If you wanna catapult the propaganda, do it with guns. You can’t just repeat it over and over and over for the truth to sink in. Give it to the decider! Like Rush Limbaugh says, there’s no peace without war.
Wrong!! It's, "There is no Peace without Victory".
Justice41
10-17-2007, 12:06 PM
Knockedoutpanzer is now K-panz.
How about D-Panz? He's a pissy sort.
How about D-Panz? He's a pissy sort.
:laugh: Always ready with the adult diaper reference!
Knuckles
10-17-2007, 12:23 PM
How about D-Panz? He's a pissy sort.
That's a crappy nickname. ;)
Justice41
10-17-2007, 12:27 PM
That's a crappy nickname. ;)
:laugh: Always ready with the adult diaper reference!
After two years of being elbow deep in baby poop that's all I think about.....mostly.
knockedoutpanzer
10-17-2007, 02:13 PM
No! this must stop. You will not shorten my hard earned name because it's long and you're too lazy to type it.
signed the DK-Panzer (oh fuck!) :)
Mike225
10-17-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm not typing that name anymore, kpanz.
DemolitionSamurai
10-17-2007, 02:16 PM
I was trying to find it. It was a Coke vs Pepsi thread. I guess it got deleted.
Ah yes, the Cockgate scandal.
Mike225
10-17-2007, 02:17 PM
Ah yes, the Cockgate scandal.Dubbed "Worst Freudian Slip Ever!"
knockedoutpanzer
10-17-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm not typing that name anymore, kpanz.
Er, which name . I've kind of lost track... :blink:
Buckyrig
10-17-2007, 02:18 PM
I'm not typing that name anymore, kpanz.
Quiet, Trey!
Mike225
10-17-2007, 02:18 PM
I won't be fooled! You want me to type out "knockedoutpanzer!"
knockedoutpanzer
10-17-2007, 02:23 PM
I won't be fooled! You want me to type out "knockedoutpanzer!"
No I don't ? Or do I ? Ah,tis the question that has be-devilled humankind since before Linsay Lohan was declared an "actress". (pffft...no she's not she's a spokeperson for Smirnov and columbia's chief export.)
Buckyrig
10-17-2007, 02:24 PM
Coffee? :huh:
knockedoutpanzer
10-17-2007, 02:26 PM
Coffee? :huh:
well it begins with "C"...
Buckyrig
10-17-2007, 02:28 PM
Cocoa?
DemolitionSamurai
10-17-2007, 02:30 PM
Cocoa?! I love drinking cocko OH GOD NOT AGAIN
Mike225
10-17-2007, 02:31 PM
Haha you drink cocko!
knockedoutpanzer
10-17-2007, 02:40 PM
yes it's cocoa.
signed erledigt sein panzerkampwagen
Biofungus
10-17-2007, 09:02 PM
I'm not typing that name anymore, kpanz.
I will call him what I call all of you when I speak of DW offline: Mallowmar.
He is Mallowmar-186
knockedoutpanzer
10-18-2007, 12:07 PM
I will call him what I call all of you when I speak of DW offline: Mallowmar.
He is Mallowmar-186
Oh , that's nice. Da PAnz.(oh shit I shortened it again)
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