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can do it here. Keep it out of the evolution thread.
So what do people think of the use of artificial selection in the domestication of plants and animals?
The-Spirit
10-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Can't do it Newt, the people who've been here longest have to destroy the threads they don't like first.
The Scribe
10-09-2007, 04:19 PM
Can't do it Newt, the people who've been here longest have to destroy the threads they don't like first.
Troublemakers. ;)
Mike225
10-09-2007, 04:21 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/a/a0/180px-Spit-take.jpg
The-Spirit
10-09-2007, 04:27 PM
Troublemakers. ;)
with Seniority.
The Scribe
10-09-2007, 04:28 PM
with Seniority.
They think. ;)
The-Spirit
10-09-2007, 04:30 PM
They think. ;)
No, they know, most of them have been on here about 6-7 years.
The Scribe
10-09-2007, 04:32 PM
No, they know, most of them have been on here about 6-7 years.
If that's what they want to believe. Duke has the power. I wonder why that is? :D
Mike225
10-09-2007, 04:41 PM
Irony kills.
Be careful.
The-Spirit
10-09-2007, 05:00 PM
If that's what they want to believe. Duke has the power. I wonder why that is? :D
I think we're misunderstanding each other, these people have been on here for 6-7 years that's seniority. Of course Ed has the trump power but he isn't going to ban all the faithful members because they start trouble.
Amadarwin
10-09-2007, 05:07 PM
Seniority breeds senility.
spider
10-09-2007, 05:15 PM
Says the guy whose been banned more times than Jon waxes his chest, why would anyone expect intelligent conversation from chit-chat anyways?
You post a thread then you get what you're given and like it.
Mike225
10-09-2007, 05:17 PM
Didn't catch that last part, spider.
spider
10-09-2007, 05:51 PM
You will like it.
http://www.pleasedancewithme.com/ClipArtHairSprayHomeLg.gif
Psssh, without Rikki it's nothing.
Scaleyinx
10-09-2007, 06:36 PM
So what do people think of the use of artificial selection in the domestication of plants and animals?
I use to own a Whippet - and though they were bred from various terriers and English and Italian greyhounds, it might appear that I'm in support of artifical selection for some critters, but truth be told, I'm only in support of those animals that stay within their own species.
Well...mainly because...
...creatures like the lion/spider/rabbit frighten me greatly... :(
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/scaleyinx/LionSpiderRabbit.jpg
Cross-breeding is not selection. Anyhow, you picture is coming up as a red X, at least for me.
Mike225
10-09-2007, 06:38 PM
...creatures like the lion/spider/rabbit frighten me greatly... :( Apparently, you've never seen the human pig lamprey!
http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116022&highlight=human+lamprey
*Edit* Check that, I guess you have seen it, Ramona.
Buckyrig
10-09-2007, 06:39 PM
Apparently, you've never seen the human pig lamprey!
You're thinking of Manbearpig.
Mike225
10-09-2007, 06:40 PM
Forgot to add the link.
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 06:40 PM
So what do people think of the use of artificial selection in the domestication of plants and animals?
the artifical selection kind of forces the natural evolution of the species involved. any life form put into an alien environment must either adapt, or die. if the environment is extreme enough and it adapts, then there is a forced evolution taking place via the artifical selection.
im not even going to work the whole domestication thing in here as i'm just annoying newt by discussing evolution :nyah:
You ARE annoying me. Do you even know what artificial selection means?
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 06:44 PM
intentionally picking and choosing?
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 06:46 PM
species?
Mike225
10-09-2007, 06:46 PM
Chicks?
Scott James
10-09-2007, 06:46 PM
Brian Fantana: I think I was in love once.
Ron Burgundy: Really? What was her name?
Brian Fantana: I don't remember.
Ron Burgundy: That's not a good start, but keep going...
Brian Fantana: She was Brazilian, or Chinese, or something weird. I met her in the bathroom of a K-Mart and we made out for hours. Then we parted ways, never to see each other again.
Ron Burgundy: I'm pretty sure that's not love.
Brian Fantana: Damn it.
species?
WRONG! Individuals with desired traits.
Chicks?
Are you claiming that DarkMind's choosy?
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 06:48 PM
WRONG! Individuals with desired traits.
you sure about that? i thought that was selective breeding.
Brian Fantana: I think I was in love once.
Ron Burgundy: Really? What was her name?
Brian Fantana: I don't remember.
Ron Burgundy: That's not a good start, but keep going...
Brian Fantana: She was Brazilian, or Chinese, or something weird. I met her in the bathroom of a K-Mart and we made out for hours. Then we parted ways, never to see each other again.
Ron Burgundy: I'm pretty sure that's not love.
Brian Fantana: Damn it.
Scott- Shut up. :mad:
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 06:49 PM
Are you claiming that DarkMind's choosy?
are you implying i'll get freaky with anything that shakes its ass in my general direction?
Buckyrig
10-09-2007, 06:49 PM
I think Newt needs to rub one out before he posts again.
Mike225
10-09-2007, 06:50 PM
I think Newt needs to rub one out before he posts again.Good advice, Newt.
you sure about that? i thought that was selective breeding.
What makes selective breeding 'selective' is the practice of artificial selection. Natural selection was named directly after artificial selection, as it, too, acts on individuals with differing traits.
Scott James
10-09-2007, 06:50 PM
Brick Tamland: I love... carpet.
[pause]
Brick Tamland: I love... desk.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, are you just looking at things in the office and saying that you love them?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp.
Ron Burgundy: Do you really love the lamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?
Brick Tamland: I love lamp. I love lamp.
are you implying i'll get freaky with anything that shakes its ass in my general direction?
Not ANYTHING, no. But close!
Scaleyinx
10-09-2007, 06:52 PM
Cross-breeding is not selection.
Do you even know what artificial selection means?
:blink:
I thought it meant this:
Medical Dictionary
Human intervention in animal or plant reproduction to ensure that certain desirable traits are represented in successive generations.
Science Dictionary
The breeding of plants and animals to produce desirable traits. Organisms with the desired traits, such as size or taste, are artificially mated or cross-pollinated with organisms with similar desired traits.
Whippets were bred purposely for specific desirable traits in the terriers and greyhounds.....my pup was a mutant dog I tell ya!
I think Newt needs to rub one out before he posts again.
What makes you think I'm not doing it right now?
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 06:54 PM
wait... if cross breeding is not selection... but artificial selection is picking and choosing desirable traits, the how the hell is cross breeding to get disarable traits NOT artificial selection? :huh: :blink: :huh:
:blink:
I thought it meant this:
Medical Dictionary
Human intervention in animal or plant reproduction to ensure that certain desirable traits are represented in successive generations.
Science Dictionary
The breeding of plants and animals to produce desirable traits. Organisms with the desired traits, such as size or taste, are artificially mated or cross-pollinated with organisms with similar desired traits.
Whippets were bred purposely for specific desirable traits in the terriers and greyhounds.....my pup was a mutant dog I tell ya!
Your Science Dictionary is using confusing terminology. Artificial selection occurs within a stock- individuals with desirable traits are bred with other individuals with similar traits, or if none are available, with their own close relatives. Cross-breeding is done to enlarge the pool of traits and trait-combinations in a stock; it allows artificial selection, but is not itself artificial selection. Mutation involves the appearance of novel traits not present in the parents- they are the root source of the variation in traits which is acted upon by both artificial and natural selection.
kdmelrose
10-09-2007, 06:56 PM
What makes you think I'm not doing it right now?
The lack of typos?
wybh wouldg ther b typoss/?
Mike225
10-09-2007, 06:57 PM
Maybe Newt evolved a third hand?
Scaleyinx
10-09-2007, 06:57 PM
wait... if cross breeding is not selection... but artificial selection is picking and choosing desirable traits, the how the hell is cross breeding to get disarable traits NOT artificial selection? :huh: :blink: :huh:
Exactly! I'm with you on this one!
Scott James
10-09-2007, 07:01 PM
Ron Burgundy: Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina.
Veronica Corningstone: No, there's no way that's correct.
Ron Burgundy: I'm sorry, I was trying to impress you. I don't know what it means. I'll be honest, I don't think anyone knows what it means anymore. Scholars maintain that the translation was lost hundreds of years ago.
Veronica Corningstone: Doesn't it mean Saint Diego?
Ron Burgundy: No. No.
Veronica Corningstone: No, that's - that's what it means. Really.
Ron Burgundy: Agree to disagree.
Exactly! I'm with you on this one!
Okay, let me try again. The point of artificial selection is to fix a particular trait in a breeding stock; so let's say you want curly-haired greyhounds.
By pure happenstance, one of your greyhounds has curly hair; from here, you can either try to find another curly-haired greyhound of the opposite sex and breed them; failing that, you can breed your curly-haired dog with its own parent, working on the likelihood that the parent carries 'curly' genes but does not express them. You do not allow any of your plain greyhounds to breed with this curly-haired stock.
Either way, you now have a litter of puppies. Most likely some will be curly-haired and some will not; you keep only the curlies in your breeding stock.
This is artificial selection. You are trying to narrow the variation in this trait to zero.
Case B.
You have a plain old greyhound, but you want a greyhound with curly hair. So, you breed your greyhound to a Maltese. This is not artificial selection; you are not breeding dogs with the same traits together in order to fix the traits. What you are doing is increasing the variation in many traits. You can begin the process of artificial selection with the puppies produced by this pairing, but the initial pairing does not itself constitute selection.
Does that help?
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 07:13 PM
no... breeding an animal with its own parent is just sick man...SICK. it depletes the genetic variety and over time of interbreeding causes many undesirable traits. DIDNT YOU WATCH WATERWORLD????? YOU NEED VARIETY IN A GENEPOOL TO KEEP A SPECIES ALIVE AND THRIVING!
Scott James
10-09-2007, 07:16 PM
Veronica Corningstone: Mr. Burgundy, I'm a professional, and I would like to be able to do my job.
Ron Burgundy: Big deal. I am very professional.
Veronica Corningstone: Mr. Burgundy, you are acting like a baby.
Ron Burgundy: I'm not a baby, I am a man. I am an anchorman.
Veronica Corningstone: You are not a man. You are a big fat joke.
Ron Burgundy: I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science.
Veronica Corningstone: I will have you know that I have more talent and more intelligence in my little finger than you do in your entire body, sir.
Ron Burgundy: You are a smelly pirate hooker.
Veronica Corningstone: You look like a blueberry.
Ron Burgundy: Why don't you go back to your home on Whore Island?
Veronica Corningstone: Well, you have bad hair.
You're wrong, newt.
Artificial selection is when I go to the store to buy those shoes that I have so cruelly been denied and I select pair A instead of the more aesthetically pleasing pair B because I saw Beyonce Knowles/The Queen Mother/Brad Pitt wearing Pair A on the front cover of Cosmopolitan.
no... breeding an animal with its own parent is just sick man...SICK. it depletes the genetic variety and over time of interbreeding causes many undesirable traits. DIDNT YOU WATCH WATERWORLD????? YOU NEED VARIETY IN A GENEPOOL TO KEEP A SPECIES ALIVE AND THRIVING!
I hate to tell you this, but that's how pretty much every 'pure' breed of domestic animal has come about. Even the breeds with long histories can usually be traced back to a single sire a few centuries back. That's why mutts are great!
Did you really learn about genetics from Waterworld? That's sad. :nyah:
You're wrong, newt.
Artificial selection is when I go to the store to buy those shoes that I have so cruelly been denied and I select pair A instead of the more aesthetically pleasing pair B because I saw Beyonce Knowles/The Queen Mother/Brad Pitt wearing Pair A on the front cover of Cosmopolitan.
No, that's called successful product placement!
Scott James
10-09-2007, 07:18 PM
You're wrong, newt.
Artificial selection is when I go to the store to buy those shoes that I have so cruelly been denied and I select pair A instead of the more aesthetically pleasing pair B because I saw Beyonce Knowles/The Queen Mother/Brad Pitt wearing Pair A on the front cover of Cosmopolitan.The Queen Mother???
How out of date are your Cosmopolitans?
Mike225
10-09-2007, 07:19 PM
You're wrong, newt.
Artificial selection is when I go to the store to buy those shoes that I have so cruelly been denied and I select pair A instead of the more aesthetically pleasing pair B because I saw Beyonce Knowles/The Queen Mother/Brad Pitt wearing Pair A on the front cover of Cosmopolitan.People thought I was crazy when I talked about putting shirtless Brad Pitt on the cover of a comic book, but who's crazy now? FA will buy it!
Mike225
10-09-2007, 07:19 PM
The Queen Mother???
How out of date are your Cosmopolitans?Did you already go through the whole movie? :laugh:
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 07:19 PM
I hate to tell you this, but that's how pretty much every 'pure' breed of domestic animal has come about. Even the breeds with long histories can usually be traced back to a single sire a few centuries back. That's why mutts are great!
Did you really learn about genetics from Waterworld? That's sad. :nyah:
first referance that came to mind :laugh:
and yeah, i know about purebreeds. i had one and it was the stupidest f'n dog i ever owned.
No, that's called successful product placement!
But aren't we all just products placed in the supermarket of evolutionary life, newt?
Aren't we?
Didn't I?
Hmmm? Didn't I?
Scott James
10-09-2007, 07:21 PM
But aren't we all just products placed in the supermarket of evolutionary life, newt?
Aren't we?
Didn't I?
Hmmm? Didn't I?I'm the only one who is going to understand that reference. :laugh:
FA- You confuse and intrigue me. Please continue.
Buckyrig
10-09-2007, 07:22 PM
People thought I was crazy when I talked about putting shirtless Brad Pitt on the cover of a comic book, but who's crazy now? FA will buy it!
YOU!?!? :sure:
Mike225
10-09-2007, 07:23 PM
I disagree.
Buckyrig
10-09-2007, 07:24 PM
I disagree.
Fuck you in the neck with a petrified whale cock!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I'm the only one who is going to understand that reference. :laugh:
Not so. Newt is a real scientist. He can formulate a hypothesis and they conduct a series of tests which will support or disprove that hypothesis, thus bringing him closer to the knowledge that it is of which we speak. So to speak. Of which. That is.
Newt?
Fuck you in the neck with a petrified whale cock!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I was putting on eyeliner when that comment appeared on my screen, with disasterous results.
Scott James
10-09-2007, 07:26 PM
Not so. Newt is a real scientist. He can formulate a hypothesis and they conduct a series of tests which will support or disprove that hypothesis, thus bringing him closer to the knowledge that it is of which we speak. So to speak. Of which. That is.
Newt?Are you channeling Colonel Sanders from The Matrix Reloaded?
My hypothesis is: it is a reference to some ridiculous piece of British popular entertainment.
I am working on experimental design as we speak.
Are you channeling Colonel Sanders from The Matrix Reloaded?
I didn't pay too much attention to that movie, but I'm pretty sure I would have noticed Col. Harlan Sanders.
My hypothesis is: it is a reference to some ridiculous piece of British popular entertainment.
I am working on experimental design as we speak.
See, scott? He's on the case. Like a bloodhound. Of science! Sniffing out petri dishes and bunsen burners to the betterment of humanity! Like a noble steed, whinnying knowledge fore and aft as he leases the manure of societal advancement!
You Angles are so poetical. Brava!
Lord Fejj
10-09-2007, 07:31 PM
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a198/scaleyinx/LionSpiderRabbit.jpg
Genetic engineering is the wave of the future! They put spider genes in a goat and get silk in the milk :yuk:
*adjusts monacle* We do what we can, old chap. We do what we can.
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 07:32 PM
weren't we discussing something about newts desire to breed with his mother to continue the trait of curly hair or something? :huh:
weren't we discussing something about newts desire to breed with his mother to continue the trait of curly hair or something? :huh:
That's fucking disgraceful! Why would anyone want curly hair??
I think we were talking about how you like to poke purebreds with your severed pinky toe.
Scott James
10-09-2007, 07:34 PM
I didn't pay too much attention to that movie, but I'm pretty sure I would have noticed Col. Harlan Sanders.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/6/69/200px-Matrix_architectsittingandchatting.gif
It's him! I swear!
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 07:34 PM
I think we were talking about how you like to poke purebreds with your severed pinky toe.
you're mixing threads now. FOCUS!
Buckyrig
10-09-2007, 07:35 PM
You Angles are so poetical. Brava!
On the other hand...they let guys like this out of the house.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northyorkshire/sport/2005/ascot/pictures/celebs/images/john_mccririck.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/03/03/nhorse03.jpg
:confused:
Don't we make enough fun of you guys?
The Colonel wouldn't be caught dead in a long tie! He was a bowtie man, all the way!
There's nothing wrong with a little muttonchop action!
*strokes sideburns soothingly*
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 07:51 PM
hang on, i think im getting this... so would me and the ex-wife having children with each other because we wanted good looking kids be artifical selection?
Assuming you're both 'good-looking' and that 'good-looking' is a selectable trait, then yes.
Mike225
10-09-2007, 08:02 PM
hang on, i think im getting this... so would me and the ex-wife having children with each other because we wanted good looking kids be artifical selection?Cut off your toe and see if that changes the results!
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 08:06 PM
Cut off your toe and see if that changes the results!
cut off your own damn toe! :laugh:
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 08:10 PM
Assuming you're both 'good-looking' and that 'good-looking' is a selectable trait, then yes.
I dunno (http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1280415&postcount=1)... but it worked.
cut off your own damn toe! :laugh:
Were you not aware that Mike had already cut off one of his toes? That's how his kind propagate. The original Mike, Mike0, produced 10 little toe clones, then each of those produced 10 toe clones, etc. Mike 225 is third-generation: he grew from the fifth toe of Mike22, who came from the second toe of Mike2, who came from the second toe of Mike0. Clear?
I dunno (http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1280415&postcount=1)... but it worked.
How can we judge whether it worked without seeing your offspring?
The DarkMind
10-09-2007, 08:14 PM
hmmm... have to find some pics of them.
edit:oops...
hmmm... have to find some pieces of them.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?
Scaleyinx
10-09-2007, 08:18 PM
Cut off your toe and see if that changes the results!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Dang, that was funny!
Justice41
10-09-2007, 08:31 PM
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Biofungus
10-09-2007, 08:32 PM
Not so. Newt is a real scientist. He can formulate a hypothesis and they conduct a series of tests which will support or disprove that hypothesis, thus bringing him closer to the knowledge that it is of which we speak. So to speak. Of which. That is.
Newt?
Great taste? Less filling? :huh:
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Keep it down back there.
Justice41
10-10-2007, 10:01 AM
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secret-identity
10-10-2007, 12:11 PM
Neo (from the Matrix)... can beat EVERYBODY!!!
Toyandgadgetguy
10-10-2007, 03:50 PM
That's fucking disgraceful! Why would anyone want curly hair??
Women. Never happy. Curly hair wants straight, blondes wanna be redheads, short wants to be tall... etc. Always something. Why is that?
Buckyrig
10-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Marketing.
Phatman
10-10-2007, 06:18 PM
I want to bitch and fuss about the fact that there has been a Clinton or Bush as President for the last 19 years and there are bunch a dumbasses in this country that will elect another Clinton. :mad:
WTF is your problem?
(I'll go away now)
Buckyrig
10-10-2007, 06:22 PM
^completely agree^
Biofungus
10-10-2007, 08:23 PM
Neo (from the Matrix)... can beat EVERYBODY!!!
that's because the Architect was smart enough to not try to simulate Chuck Norris in the matrix...
Wayne Drake
10-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Why isn't anything real beyond our human senses? RIP OFF!
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