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Scott James
09-20-2007, 08:05 AM
Courtesey of Popular Mechanics (http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/technology_news/4221635.html)

As Glenn Reynolds writes in his new PM column, traditional knowledge of how to build and fix ordinary things—around the house and in a jam—might be on the decline. With our lives becoming more driven by technology, blue-collar labor has been replaced with more white-collar employment, and teenagers are becoming better at programming Web sites than swinging hammers.

Here at PM, where we at least try to do everything, we spent weeks fine-tuning our list of "25 Skills Every Man Should Know," debating over whether certain items were too basic, too challenging or just too obscure. You can find a full how-to rundown of each one in the October issue of Popular Mechanics, which just hit newsstands. But for now, check out our carefully selected list below, then offer your own arguments and suggestions in the comments section below, or tell us how to perform your must-know skill by writing to us here...

The List: How to...

1. Patch a radiator hose
2. Protect your computer
3. Rescue a boater who has capsized
4. Frame a wall
5. Retouch digital photos
6. Back up a trailer
7. Build a campfire
8. Fix a dead outlet
9. Navigate with a map and compass
10. Use a torque wrench
11. Sharpen a knife
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid
15. Get a car unstuck
16. Back up data
17. Paint a room
18. Mix concrete
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle
20. Change oil and filter
21. Hook up an HDTV
22. Bleed brakes
23. Paddle a canoe
24. Fix a bike flat
25. Extend your wireless network
God bless those manly men at Popular Mechanics but this list seems a little archaic and technology-obsessed to to me, although I agree wholeheartedly with skills 7 and 12.

Here is my alternative 25:

1. Build a campfire
2. Learn to cook
3. Perform CPR
4. Change a nappy
5. Read bedtime stories with a variety of different voices
6. Paint a self-portrait
7. Build a tree house
8. Play a sport (golf does not count)
9. Learn a foreign language
10. Name all the constellations
11. Teach your old dog new tricks
12. Make a pinhole camera
13. Understand the laws of cricket, rugby and football
14. Build and race your own go-cart
15. Spend an evening down the pub without mentioning sports or cars
16. Identify the Seven Ancient Wonders of the World
17. Learn how to build bottle rockets
18. Write a novel
19. Volunteer for a charity or good cause
20. Identify the best quotations from Shakespeare
21. Change a tyre
22. Administer first aid
23. Skim stones
24. Learn a musical instrument
25. Understand the laws of chess and checkers.

Any other suggestions?

AthenaRose
09-20-2007, 08:14 AM
I can do some of those - does that make me a man?

spider
09-20-2007, 08:23 AM
Real men need to know how to fight too, it's a terratorial thing.
Plus hunting and building weapons, and teaching their young how to do manly things.
Material things like learning an instrument or holding an enjoyable conversation shouldn't have to matter in the grand scheme of things, manly and feminine things should come down to survival instincts.

Nitecrawlah2
09-20-2007, 09:11 AM
...Retouch digital photos?! :blink:

Mwynn
09-20-2007, 09:12 AM
Skim Stones?

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:19 AM
Real men need to know how to fight too, it's a terratorial thing.Just count your lucky stars you're not being surgically removed from a dustbin every other week like me. :sure:

Newt
09-20-2007, 09:53 AM
I'm about 4 for 5 on each list; do I have to return my man license? :cry:

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 09:57 AM
I'm about 4 for 5 on each list; do I have to return my man license? :cry:

It was fake, anyway.

dano
09-20-2007, 09:59 AM
I think the key here is not to do them, but to do them WEll. For example, any fool can buy a cheap store 'knife sharpener' and ruin his blade under the illusion of sharpening it.

Don't get me started on the fire thing.

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 10:00 AM
Fire bad?

Newt
09-20-2007, 10:01 AM
But I payed that guy with the metallic shades like $200 for it! He swore it was authentic! I'm gonna find that s.o.b. and kick his ass with my digital-photo-retouching skills.

Toyandgadgetguy
09-20-2007, 10:03 AM
Can and have done all on the first list with varying degrees of skill (or lack thereof). Nine things missing on the second list. (have no intention of writing a novel, either)

dano
09-20-2007, 10:04 AM
Fire bad?
Making fire isn't a skill, it's an ART! You breathe life into it literally adn then you have to love it and feed it to make it grow. And if you don't set it up properly it will have a short and crippled life while the other fires party on!

Mike225
09-20-2007, 10:05 AM
Making fire isn't a skill, it's an ART!That's why chicks love it when you burn stuff for them!

Newt
09-20-2007, 10:09 AM
Like incense?

Screeny
09-20-2007, 10:10 AM
That's why chicks love it when you burn stuff for them!

Does lighting your farts count?.....'Cos I'm good at that. I can light the candles on a birthday cake from 3 feet.....in one go! Put that one yer list, by god!

Newt
09-20-2007, 10:11 AM
Thanks for sharing, you filthy, filthy, slob.

Spacious Interior
09-20-2007, 10:13 AM
I'm shocked and disappointed that "Mate with Female" didn't make anyone's list.

Knuckles
09-20-2007, 10:18 AM
4. Change a nappy

What is a nappy?

Mike225
09-20-2007, 10:24 AM
Does lighting your farts count?.....'Cos I'm good at that. I can light the candles on a birthday cake from 3 feet.....in one go! Put that one yer list, by god!If this were a contest, it'd be over with this post.

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 10:31 AM
What is a nappy?

What you take when you're sleepy.

Screeny
09-20-2007, 11:10 AM
What is a nappy?

It's where a baby (or incontinent senior citizen) does a crappy.

AthenaRose
09-20-2007, 11:11 AM
What is a nappy?

Nappies are the things babies wear because they aren't old enough to go to the toilet, yet.

Newt
09-20-2007, 11:11 AM
Oh, it's a Briticism. Here in America, we call those craprags.

Mike225
09-20-2007, 11:14 AM
It's where a baby (or incontinent senior citizen) does a crappy.http://freshgear.net/gallery/sayings/thumbs/oops_i_crapped_my_pants.jpg

spider
09-20-2007, 11:15 AM
Well we sometimes call them shitbags or brownie wrappers if you want to go into slang.

Screeny
09-20-2007, 11:19 AM
Well we sometimes call them shitbags or brownie wrappers if you want to go into slang.

Do we?....I've always heard them called 'Infant Excrement Receptacles'...you know.....for short. :bounce:

Newt
09-20-2007, 11:20 AM
Slang?

That's just what they're called. You go to the store and pick up a 24-pack of Huggies or Pampers brand craprags, some ass-dust, and a few jars of sludgemeal for baby.

The DarkMind
09-20-2007, 11:36 AM
what the hell does cleaning a bolt-action rifle have to do with anything? real men kill with their bare hands damn it!

Lady_Raven
09-20-2007, 12:46 PM
I wish my man would read this lol. He needs to learn about craprags and ass powder since I am carrying his first child. As for the rest on the list I do myself anyway, don't need him for that.

Buckyrig
09-20-2007, 12:57 PM
I pay no heed to any list that does not have Hit A Curveball on it.

Buckyrig
09-20-2007, 12:59 PM
Real men need to know how to fight too, it's a terratorial thing.

I wouldn't say Fight so much as Take A Beating.

Nitecrawlah2
09-20-2007, 01:05 PM
And where's the hell's Fight A Bear?

Knuckles
09-20-2007, 01:24 PM
Nappies are the things babies wear because they aren't old enough to go to the toilet, yet.

Oh, a diaper.

Newt
09-20-2007, 01:27 PM
And where's the hell's Fight A Bear?
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/cartoonamerica/images/ca044-07921v.jpg

Eliseu Gouveia
09-20-2007, 01:59 PM
Where´s "Find good porn" on that list?

Screeny
09-20-2007, 02:05 PM
I would also add skin diving to the list - specifically diving for octopus/squid, bringing it to shore and biting it between the eyes in front of several hundred holiday makers....and you must also be able to tread on a live sea urchin without squealing like a little girl.

You must also be able to eat a whole chilli without crying like a baby.

Newt
09-20-2007, 02:18 PM
I would also add skin diving to the list - specifically diving for octopus/squid, bringing it to shore and biting it between the eyes in front of several hundred tourists....and you must also be able to step on a live sea urchin without squealing like a little girl.

You must also be able to eat a whole hot pepper without crying like a baby.

There, fixed your typos for you.

spider
09-20-2007, 02:20 PM
You're fixing typo's and you start with Screeny? :blink:

Screeny
09-20-2007, 02:21 PM
How does bollocks grab you, nappy head! :man: :p

Newt
09-20-2007, 02:22 PM
You're fixing typo's and you start with Screeny? :blink:

You help the ones who can be helped.

Newt
09-20-2007, 02:22 PM
How does bollocks grab you, nappy head! :man: :p

This is an American site, please post in American.

The DarkMind
09-20-2007, 02:26 PM
How does bollocks grab you, nappy head! :man: :p

Hey Imus, lets not get racial, ok?










:laugh:

Screeny
09-20-2007, 02:50 PM
This is an American site, please post in American.

My Cherokee is a bit rusty....how's yours Little Horn? :bounce:

Newt
09-20-2007, 03:01 PM
Are you mocking my ancestors? Would you like a scalping? Is there a penis joke buried in there? Are you aware that 'object' names such as 'Little Horn' are typical of Plains tribes such as the Sioux, rather than Eastern Woodland tribes such as the Cherokee? How old are you? Can you say ''Sally sells sea shells by the sea shore''?

Amadarwin
09-20-2007, 03:10 PM
Is there a penis joke buried in there?
yes, like an ostrich.

Buckyrig
09-20-2007, 03:11 PM
So's your face!

Mike225
09-20-2007, 07:21 PM
Hey, I won a hot dog eating contest today. Why isn't that on the list?

Buckyrig
09-20-2007, 07:23 PM
Is that a euphamism?

Nitecrawlah2
09-20-2007, 07:38 PM
Hey, I won a hot dog eating contest today. Why isn't that on the list?
It's not a contest if it's lunch and you're eating by yourself.

Buckyrig
09-20-2007, 07:40 PM
It's not a contest if it's lunch and you're eating by yourself.

What if he was in a forest and no one was around?

Jon Dahl
09-20-2007, 07:47 PM
I'll put and X next to the things I know or have done.

1. Patch a radiator hose X
2. Protect your computer X
3. Rescue a boater who has capsized
4. Frame a wall X
5. Retouch digital photos X
6. Back up a trailer X
7. Build a campfire X
8. Fix a dead outlet X
9. Navigate with a map and compass X (Amanda would disagree though)
10. Use a torque wrench X
11. Sharpen a knife X
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish X
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid X
15. Get a car unstuck X
16. Back up data X
17. Paint a room X
18. Mix concrete X
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle X
20. Change oil and filter X
21. Hook up an HDTV X
22. Bleed brakes X
23. Paddle a canoe X
24. Fix a bike flat X
25. Extend your wireless network X

Scott's list

1. Build a campfire X
2. Learn to cook X
3. Perform CPR
4. Change a nappy - Is this like cunnilingus? Either way, I'm sure I'm probably bad at it.
5. Read bedtime stories with a variety of different voices X
6. Paint a self-portrait
7. Build a tree house X
8. Play a sport (golf does not count) X
9. Learn a foreign language
10. Name all the constellations
11. Teach your old dog new tricks
12. Make a pinhole camera X
13. Understand the laws of cricket, rugby and football - Errr.. Does American Football count? If so, X
14. Build and race your own go-cart X
15. Spend an evening down the pub without mentioning sports or cars X
16. Identify the Seven Ancient Wonders of the World X 17. Learn how to build bottle rockets X
18. Write a novel X
19. Volunteer for a charity or good cause X
20. Identify the best quotations from Shakespeare
21. Change a tyre... Tire, yes. X
22. Administer first aid X
23. Skim stones X
24. Learn a musical instrument
25. Understand the laws of chess and checkers. X

Lovecraft13
09-20-2007, 08:14 PM
Real men need to know how to fight too, it's a terratorial thing.

I think "real men" need to learn how to make a proper fist before they know how to fight.

Nitecrawlah2
09-20-2007, 08:17 PM
I'll put and X next to the things I know or have done.

1. Patch a radiator hose X
2. Protect your computer X
3. Rescue a boater who has capsized
4. Frame a wall X
5. Retouch digital photos X
6. Back up a trailer X
7. Build a campfire X
8. Fix a dead outlet X
9. Navigate with a map and compass X (Amanda would disagree though)
10. Use a torque wrench X
11. Sharpen a knife X
12. Perform CPR
13. Fillet a fish X
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid X
15. Get a car unstuck X
16. Back up data X
17. Paint a room X
18. Mix concrete X
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle X
20. Change oil and filter X
21. Hook up an HDTV X
22. Bleed brakes X
23. Paddle a canoe X
24. Fix a bike flat X
25. Extend your wireless network X

Scott's list

1. Build a campfire X
2. Learn to cook X
3. Perform CPR
4. Change a nappy - Is this like cunnilingus? Either way, I'm sure I'm probably bad at it.
5. Read bedtime stories with a variety of different voices X
6. Paint a self-portrait
7. Build a tree house X
8. Play a sport (golf does not count) X
9. Learn a foreign language
10. Name all the constellations
11. Teach your old dog new tricks
12. Make a pinhole camera X
13. Understand the laws of cricket, rugby and football - Errr.. Does American Football count? If so, X
14. Build and race your own go-cart X
15. Spend an evening down the pub without mentioning sports or cars X
16. Identify the Seven Ancient Wonders of the World X 17. Learn how to build bottle rockets X
18. Write a novel X
19. Volunteer for a charity or good cause X
20. Identify the best quotations from Shakespeare
21. Change a tyre... Tire, yes. X
22. Administer first aid X
23. Skim stones X
24. Learn a musical instrument
25. Understand the laws of chess and checkers. X
Yes, but have you ever fought a bear or beat Mike in a hot dog eating contest?

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:13 PM
I think "real men" need to learn how to make a proper fist before they know how to fight.Real men fight with x point screwdrivers!

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:13 PM
Yes, but have you ever fought a bear or beat Mike in a hot dog eating contest? He has not.

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 09:15 PM
Nobody can eat 50 eggs!

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:16 PM
Nobody can eat 50 eggs!Don't push me. In a day, I bet I could eat 50 eggs and do little else!

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 09:17 PM
Nobody ever eat 50 eggs.

Newt
09-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Real men fight with x point screwdrivers!
'X point'?

They're called Phillips head screwdrivers.

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Nobody ever eat 50 eggs.Before you fix it. :whistlin:

Newt
09-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Nobody ever eat 50 eggs.

He meant fish eggs.

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Before you fix it. :whistlin:

It's a movie quote.

Dumbass.

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:19 PM
'X point'?

They're called Phillips head screwdrivers.Old joke, rookie.

Mike225
09-20-2007, 09:20 PM
It's a movie quote.

Dumbass.Stop trolling, Kevin!

kdmelrose
09-20-2007, 09:20 PM
You're just jealous of my threads.

compton
09-20-2007, 09:29 PM
"I think take down a wall with your bare hands "

to the list

Justice41
09-21-2007, 12:47 AM
I think "real men" need to learn how to make a proper fist before they know how to fight.
If you ball up your hand into a fist when fighting stand up you'll just tense yourself up. A slightly open hand just before connection allows you to swing and punch faster. You make a fist just before impact. Not only does the punch have more effect it really stuns the fuck out of the person being hit. Besides it's always a good idea to have options. A closed fist can't grab or twist or poke or claw. Why when I was a youngzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz :laugh:

Buckyrig
09-21-2007, 12:50 AM
Roy, in self defense classes they have to tell people not to put their thumbs inside the fists. :yawn:

Newt
09-21-2007, 12:58 AM
Everybody knows you grab the other guy's thumb in your fist, and then you punch him.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:01 AM
If you ball up your hand into a fist when fighting stand up you'll just tense yourself up. A slightly open hand just before connection allows you to swing and punch faster. You make a fist just before impact. Not only does the punch have more effect it really stuns the fuck out of the person being hit. Besides it's always a good idea to have options. A closed fist can't grab or twist or poke or claw. Why when I was a youngzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzz :laugh:Why would the Daywalker have to claw someone?

FA
09-21-2007, 01:02 AM
Everybody knows you grab the other guy's thumb in your fist, and then you punch him.

What if you're fighting a t-rex?

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:03 AM
Stick and move. Or just move.

FA
09-21-2007, 01:05 AM
Stick and move. Or just move.

Shhhh! I want to hear his long and involved explanation about the various hand bones of therapod dinosaurs.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:10 AM
Roy, in self defense classes they have to tell people not to put their thumbs inside the fists. :yawn:
Really ?.......so let me get this straight.........your sissy ass had to be taught how to defend yourself? Did your mommy have to go and hold your widdle hand as the big bad man showed you how not to run away like a girl?

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:12 AM
Roy's bored tonight!

FA
09-21-2007, 01:13 AM
Did your mommy have to go and hold your widdle hand as the big bad man showed you how not to run away like a girl?

Is it wrong to find that strangely arousing?

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:16 AM
Is it wrong to find that strangely arousing?No, that's normal.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:18 AM
Why would the Daywalker have to claw someone?
My intent when I got into most fights wasn't to win, it was to basically hurt the person. By any means. If I had to fishhook or gouge or use my elbows, knees break a wrist, snap an arm, I would. If for any reason I really didn't feel like busting up my knuckles a brick, a pipe, a tire iron, the butt of my gun, my Brass knuckles, would suffice. I went into it to do damage and I was never content to just draw blood. I wanted to hurt you. I have thrown people into traffic hoping they would get hit. Shot out some guys tires while we had a stupid chase on I-95 after a brawl at a local club. That was so much fun I'm surprised we didn't attract the attention of the cops.. Just stuff like that. But closing your hands into a fist just restricts the body way to much. Plus in a fight if you're afraid to take a shot in the face may as well run, or the fight turns into a bitch slap fest.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:19 AM
Is it wrong to find that strangely arousing?
No......... not at all....... why do you ask?

FA
09-21-2007, 01:22 AM
If I had to fishhook ... the butt of my gun, my Brass knuckles, ....I have thrown people into traffic hoping they would get hit. Plus in a fight if you're afraid to take a shot in the face may as well run

Justice41 isn't afraid to take a shot in the face! Pass it on!

:laugh:

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:23 AM
Roy's bored tonight!
Actually I was supposed to go down to the Hardrock tonight to watch The IFL championships. A bud of mine is doing audio for the IFL and I believe FOX sports. He was getting me some sort of pass that allowed me to go anywhere. I opted to stay home and play with the baby. I went to one MMA a long time ago and it sucked. Better view sitting on the couch.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:24 AM
Someday, I'll be able to say I've been in 200+ hot dog eating contests.

I'm not in there to eat the hot dogs, I just want to hurt them.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:24 AM
Justice41 isn't afraid to take a shot in the face! Pass it on!

:laugh:
I've been hit in the face 4 times. Believe me My babies flailing around has done more damage than the pansies that actually got a punch in.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:25 AM
Someday, I'll be able to say I've been in 200+ hot dog eating contests.

I'm not in there to eat the hot dogs, I just want to hurt them.
Well I am a Sadist. I like damaging people. It's fun. Real fun.......I mean real Fun......... :har: :har: :har: I mean dribbling precum Fun. :har:

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:27 AM
I was talking about hot dogs.

FA
09-21-2007, 01:27 AM
So was he.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:30 AM
Did I mention I almost died?

FA
09-21-2007, 01:30 AM
So did he.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:31 AM
:cry:

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:31 AM
So was he.
No... weiners..... Get it right There chickiee. ;)

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:32 AM
:cry:
I think Mike's bored. Attention hog. :p

FA
09-21-2007, 01:33 AM
:cry:

Look mike, you're just not a real man until you're prepared to take a shot in the face. I'm sorry but there it is.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:35 AM
Look mike, you're just not a real man until you're prepared to take a shot in the face. I'm sorry but there it is.Define "shot" and we'll talk about it.

FA
09-21-2007, 01:37 AM
Define "shot" and we'll talk about it.

You work in mililitres or fluid ounces?

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:38 AM
Egad!

Neither!

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:42 AM
You work in mililitres or fluid ounces?
Women can squirt did you know Mike? I'm Sure FA has oozed out some slimey fluids here and there on some guys mustache.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:44 AM
Oh wow.

FA
09-21-2007, 01:46 AM
It's a bit chilly out today, isn't it? Looks like it might rain.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 01:48 AM
I'm just gonna back out of this one, in case it somehow becomes more awkward..

Justice41
09-21-2007, 01:56 AM
If yuir gonna start a fight best to be ready to fight anyway you can to win or don't fight atall. Let that be a lesson to yer. Now back to this bollocks about what makes a real man.
I've not only changed two years worth of shit filled diapies I've also had my hands full of shit. It's a wonderful thing as your changing the wee one and he decides to empty out all that food you fed him into your hand that was wiping his arse with soft downey butt wipes. Such Gratitude. My wife almost puked but i just squished it in my hand and made gagging sounds which got her even closer to hurling.. Try that. Then again it wasn't as nasty as cleaning stalls at a farm.

Mike225
09-21-2007, 02:02 AM
What're you talking about, a fight? I won a hot dog eating contest, you can't stun me!

My son's four. He could probably still shit in my hand, but it'd be weird.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 02:06 AM
What're you talking about, a fight? I won a hot dog eating contest, you can't stun me!

My son's four. He could probably still shit in my hand, but it'd be weird.
Geez.... get over it. so what, your a glutton who swallowed 50 dogs..... Only a fat ass American could be proud of that accomplishment. :yawn: :laugh:

Mike225
09-21-2007, 02:10 AM
I'll get over it when it stops hurting. I've earned this moment, it will likely never be this good again.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 02:33 AM
Sad, so sad. This explains why you are still up at 2:30 in the morn.

Screeny
09-21-2007, 02:50 AM
Give me some good porn & a cup of ice cubes & I can quite easily shoot myself in the face if I'm not careful. :confused:

Scott James
09-21-2007, 09:22 AM
:laugh:

I'm pissing my pants at how ludicrious this thread has become. :whistlin:

For one thing, if so many of you Americans know so much about hand-to-hand combat then why do you always seem to resolve your problems with firearms? :p

Second, for a forum that caters to a fraternity of geeks and nerds there are a lot of so-called hard bastards trolling this site. :rolleyes:

We have all had a laugh at at Justice41's audacious claims in the past but so far he seems to be the only one talking any sense... which is scary enough in itself. :laugh:

(FYI: If you punch somebody with an entirely clenched fist then you are likely to fracture your own wrist)

The DarkMind
09-21-2007, 10:10 AM
My intent when I got into most fights wasn't to win, it was to basically hurt the person. By any means. If I had to fishhook or gouge or use my elbows, knees break a wrist, snap an arm, I would. If for any reason I really didn't feel like busting up my knuckles a brick, a pipe, a tire iron, the butt of my gun, my Brass knuckles, would suffice. I went into it to do damage and I was never content to just draw blood. I wanted to hurt you. I have thrown people into traffic hoping they would get hit. Shot out some guys tires while we had a stupid chase on I-95 after a brawl at a local club. That was so much fun I'm surprised we didn't attract the attention of the cops.. Just stuff like that. But closing your hands into a fist just restricts the body way to much. Plus in a fight if you're afraid to take a shot in the face may as well run, or the fight turns into a bitch slap fest.

i have got to hang out with this guy some time... soon as my probation is over :laugh:

Toyandgadgetguy
09-21-2007, 11:07 AM
My intent when I got into most fights wasn't to win, it was to basically hurt the person. By any means. If I had to fishhook or gouge or use my elbows, knees break a wrist, snap an arm, I would. If for any reason I really didn't feel like busting up my knuckles a brick, a pipe, a tire iron, the butt of my gun, my Brass knuckles, would suffice. I went into it to do damage and I was never content to just draw blood. I wanted to hurt you. I have thrown people into traffic hoping they would get hit. Shot out some guys tires while we had a stupid chase on I-95 after a brawl at a local club. That was so much fun I'm surprised we didn't attract the attention of the cops.. Just stuff like that. But closing your hands into a fist just restricts the body way to much. Plus in a fight if you're afraid to take a shot in the face may as well run, or the fight turns into a bitch slap fest.

So did you carry your brass knuckles and gun at the same time, or did you alternate? Perhaps you stepped up your game after awhile...

Newt
09-21-2007, 11:38 AM
Shhhh! I want to hear his long and involved explanation about the various hand bones of therapod dinosaurs.

Jeez, I'm gone for ten hours and look what I miss. All right, first of all it's spelled 'theropod', tyrannosaurids did have thumbs (the fingers retained were I and II, that is the thumb and index finger), however the arm was so short that you would be unable to punch the animal anywhere but its chest while grasping its thumb, unless you were able to tear the limb out, in which case you might just be able to win this hypothetical battle, only it would never occur because tyrannosaurs have been extinct since the end of the Cretaceous, and contra Jurassic Park such old bones do not yield anything like enough DNA to recreate an animal's genome, let alone clone new animals, which is hard enough with living vertebrates, for which appropriate gestational environments are available.

Long and involved enough for you?

Justice41
09-21-2007, 11:53 AM
So did you carry your brass knuckles and gun at the same time, or did you alternate? Perhaps you stepped up your game after awhile...
The Gun always went with me but the Knucks only came along when we knew we were going to a neighborhood club that wasn't safe. You see in a not so hot area they frisk you at the door. A beltbuckle Knuck won't be taken. But a gun, besides I never took it into places that sold liquor or my concealed permit would be null and void if I got caught just carrying it. Know the old saying about being judged by twelve instead of being carried by 6?

Justice41
09-21-2007, 11:54 AM
Jeez, I'm gone for ten hours and look what I miss. All right, first of all it's spelled 'theropod', tyrannosaurids did have thumbs (the fingers retained were I and II, that is the thumb and index finger), however the arm was so short that you would be unable to punch the animal anywhere but its chest while grasping its thumb, unless you were able to tear the limb out, in which case you might just be able to win this hypothetical battle, only it would never occur because tyrannosaurs have been extinct since the end of the Cretaceous, and contra Jurassic Park such old bones do not yield anything like enough DNA to recreate an animal's genome, let alone clone new animals, which is hard enough with living vertebrates, for which appropriate gestational environments are available.

Long and involved enough for you?
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Newt
09-21-2007, 11:56 AM
My work here is done.

Jon Dahl
09-21-2007, 12:30 PM
For one thing, if so many of you Americans know so much about hand-to-hand combat then why do you always seem to resolve your problems with firearms? :p

Because of guys like my friend Base who's trained himself to kill people with his hands.

http://a769.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/106/l_92832c12c7b0db280ebb5abef0b0c500.jpg

He won another cage fight last night. We need firearms to stop people like him. :laugh:

spider
09-21-2007, 12:34 PM
Best I got is a friend who went to prison, the rest of us are delusional sissies.

Buckyrig
09-21-2007, 12:46 PM
Really ?.......so let me get this straight.........your sissy ass had to be taught how to defend yourself? Did your mommy have to go and hold your widdle hand as the big bad man showed you how not to run away like a girl?

No, Roy, I occasionally have conversations with other people and they tell me about things that I myself have not experienced.










That is a comedy goldmine waiting to be stripped.

Newt
09-21-2007, 12:47 PM
Ha ha! You said 'stripped'! Now THAT'S comedy!

Toyandgadgetguy
09-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Nothing wrong with self defense classes. Nothing wrong with them at all.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 12:58 PM
Bah!! Practical experience is the best test. Yeah Those MMA guys are scary. I met a few of them a few months ago at a Cuban Restaurant. Brazilians with the cauliflower ears and all. Glad I don't get into it anymore. never know who your fighting. Could wind up being twisted into a pretzel by some bruiser.

Toyandgadgetguy
09-21-2007, 01:23 PM
Bah!! Practical experience is the best test. Yeah Those MMA guys are scary. I met a few of them a few months ago at a Cuban Restaurant. Brazilians with the cauliflower ears and all. Glad I don't get into it anymore. never know who your fighting. Could wind up being twisted into a pretzel by some bruiser.

The practical experience method has one flaw... you take many a beating before getting to be any good. The US Army teaches it's soldiers for a reason...

Smart men realize that not fighting is the best. Know how if it comes down to it... but if at all possible, don't let it come down to it. Even a tiny guy can pull a gun on you.

I manage to avoid fights all the time... and it's really not hard at all.

Nitecrawlah2
09-21-2007, 03:42 PM
take a shot in the face

Actually I was supposed to go down

Well I am a Sadist. I like ... dribbling precum

:har:

Mike225
09-21-2007, 03:44 PM
Pwned!

Amadarwin
09-21-2007, 04:01 PM
has cunnilingus made it on anyone's list yet?

Buckyrig
09-21-2007, 04:02 PM
has cunnilingus made it on anyone's list yet?

9. Learn a foreign language

Old pun, great fun. :thumbs:

Amadarwin
09-21-2007, 04:12 PM
dunno how I missed that, Buck. :blink:

Lady_Raven
09-21-2007, 04:30 PM
has cunnilingus made it on anyone's list yet?
No but it should there :p


The best advice ever given to me about bar fights, came from an ex airborn ranger/ merchant marine. If a bar fight breaks out find the biggest mofo in the place. You take him down your a hero, he beats the hell out of you he's the bully and they will all jump him. lol

Justice41
09-21-2007, 07:41 PM
No but it should there :p


The best advice ever given to me about bar fights, came from an ex airborn ranger/ merchant marine. If a bar fight breaks out find the biggest mofo in the place. You take him down your a hero, he beats the hell out of you he's the bully and they will all jump him. lol
Or you as the biggest guy knocks the fuck out of anyone who comes at him and then just sits back down and finishes his drink.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 07:42 PM
:har:
Kinda funny but not really...

Lady_Raven
09-21-2007, 07:44 PM
Or you as the biggest guy knocks the fuck out of anyone who comes at him and then just sits back down and finishes his drink.
I will never be the biggest guy since i am a chick. but I would finish my drink while watching the dumbasses wail away at eachother. :bounce:

Justice41
09-21-2007, 07:45 PM
The practical experience method has one flaw... you take many a beating before getting to be any good. The US Army teaches it's soldiers for a reason...

Smart men realize that not fighting is the best. Know how if it comes down to it... but if at all possible, don't let it come down to it. Even a tiny guy can pull a gun on you.

I manage to avoid fights all the time... and it's really not hard at all.
I bet you avoid all kinds of confrontations......wuss :laugh:
The experience you learn in Boot camp all can go in the terlet the first time your shot at. Believe me once you've been hit in the mush and you live and have no major damage done you realize you can stand up to whatever comes at ya. It's a life lesson also.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 07:48 PM
I will never be the biggest guy since i am a chick. but I would finish my drink while watching the dumbasses wail away at eachother. :bounce:
Yeah I had a friend who used to instigate fights behind our backs and then sit back and watch us all wrassle around like dogs over a bone. She was kinda hot though. A major tease as well.

Lady_Raven
09-21-2007, 07:50 PM
lol. I don't instigate. But daddy taught his little girl how to take care of herself.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 07:52 PM
lol. I don't instigate. But daddy taught his little girl how to take care of herself.
She had a bat but she was all mouth.

spider
09-21-2007, 07:58 PM
I bet you avoid all kinds of confrontations......wuss :laugh:


He's right though, only fight if it's unavoidable.
When I'm out if someone starts giving me lip I ignore them,
not because I'm pussying out but because they're not really bothering me.
I'm not the type who would just fight for the hell of it.

Justice41
09-21-2007, 08:02 PM
He's right though, only fight if it's unavoidable.
When I'm out if someone starts giving me lip I ignore them,
not because I'm pussying out but because they're not really bothering me.
I'm not the type who would just fight for the hell of it.
Lipyapping means nothing, it's when they step too close. There's an implied threat and as far as I'm concerned I'm in fear for my life. But most stuff was started by friends whom I just backed up.
But fighting for the hell of it is also fun.

spider
09-21-2007, 08:07 PM
Maybe you should consider going to underground fight clubs, I have a friend who goes every few months but it's still not enough, he'll still get drunk and fight whoever for whatever reason. I had to restrain him when he "didn't like someones tone".

Buckyrig
09-21-2007, 08:11 PM
Some people need to spend a stint in jail.

Biofungus
09-21-2007, 08:19 PM
Is anybody else here a fan of the "Sucker punch and run" method?

Justice41
09-21-2007, 08:29 PM
Maybe you should consider going to underground fight clubs, I have a friend who goes every few months but it's still not enough, he'll still get drunk and fight whoever for whatever reason. I had to restrain him when he "didn't like someones tone".
Too old man. I retired about 10 years ago while my reflexes were still quick.

Scott James
09-21-2007, 08:37 PM
Is anybody else here a fan of the "Sucker punch and run" method?I prefer the "Wait In My House With a Wilson Aluminium Baseball Bat" method.

I spent 25 bucks on that thing and I have yet to swing it in anger. It's like the burglars know I'm waiting for them.

Biofungus
09-21-2007, 08:51 PM
I prefer the "Wait In My House With a Wilson Aluminium Baseball Bat" method.

I spent 25 bucks on that thing and I have yet to swing it in anger. It's like the burglars know I'm waiting for them.

And Spider, too :p

Multisync143
09-21-2007, 09:16 PM
The best advice ever given to me about bar fights, came from an ex airborn ranger/ merchant marine. If a bar fight breaks out find the biggest mofo in the place. You take him down your a hero, he beats the hell out of you he's the bully and they will all jump him. lol

I disagree. I'm a big guy and i really wouldn't appreciate getting punched out just cause of my size. So please don't go for the biggest guy go for the second biggest and let the biggest guy enjoy his drink.

Biofungus
09-21-2007, 09:32 PM
I disagree. I'm a big guy and i really wouldn't appreciate getting punched out just cause of my size. So please don't go for the biggest guy go for the second biggest and let the biggest guy enjoy his drink.
With that attitude, you're the perfect person to go after :p

j giar
09-21-2007, 09:46 PM
With that attitude, you're the perfect person to go after :p

That's right....pansy! :p :happy:

Multisync143
09-21-2007, 10:05 PM
That's right....pansy! :p :happy:

Bio defend my honour.

Buckyrig
09-21-2007, 10:19 PM
The natural progression of a fight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_IYrltqYrU)

Lady_Raven
09-22-2007, 05:50 AM
then you are perfect for me lol. I am just a 5'6 chick. Maybe if I whipped you in a bar people would leave me alone lol!! I have it all planned out......

rummblestrips
09-22-2007, 09:24 AM
This thread has been so much fun to read this fine morning.

I do think fighting should be on that list but I think that should be for women as well, and I DON'T MEAN in mud, ok?

I also having the ability to lick your own eyebrows should be on that list as well.

Raven, I'm am inch shorter than you, but if you need some help taking down the guys, I'm here for you.

Toyandgadgetguy
09-22-2007, 09:44 AM
I bet you avoid all kinds of confrontations......wuss :laugh:
The experience you learn in Boot camp all can go in the terlet the first time your shot at. Believe me once you've been hit in the mush and you live and have no major damage done you realize you can stand up to whatever comes at ya. It's a life lesson also.

Thanks for that. Amazing that I hadn't figured it out on my own yet. :rolleyes:

I think you forget that you're not the only one to have lived a little.

I'll take my actual military training (Boot Camp teaches you how to be taught... it's not ALL your training... it's simply the beginning of it), over a lack of it any day of the week.

Knuckles
09-22-2007, 11:07 AM
The natural progression of a fight. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_IYrltqYrU)

Are you suggesting that Roy has married all of the people he has fought with?

Knuckles
09-22-2007, 11:07 AM
I do think fighting should be on that list but I think that should be for women as well, and I DON'T MEAN in mud, ok?



How about oil then?

Jon Dahl
09-22-2007, 11:20 AM
has cunnilingus made it on anyone's list yet?

Yes, actually I mentioned it on mine. Apparently, nobody read it. :laugh:

Buckyrig
09-22-2007, 11:24 AM
Yes, actually I mentioned it on mine. Apparently, nobody read it. :laugh:

We were blinded by your resplendent beauty.

Toyandgadgetguy
09-22-2007, 12:45 PM
Yes, actually I mentioned it on mine. Apparently, nobody read it. :laugh:

I'm sorry. What? Did you say something?




:nyah:

Lady_Raven
09-22-2007, 05:48 PM
This thread has been so much fun to read this fine morning.

I do think fighting should be on that list but I think that should be for women as well, and I DON'T MEAN in mud, ok?

I also having the ability to lick your own eyebrows should be on that list as well.

Raven, I'm am inch shorter than you, but if you need some help taking down the guys, I'm here for you.

Thanks Rummble together we will be an unstoppable team we could probably even take Just Ice since he is an old man now lol :banana:

Buckyrig
09-22-2007, 05:48 PM
I carry an anvil with me at all times.

Justice41
09-22-2007, 05:51 PM
Thanks Rummble together we will be an unstoppable team we could probably even take Just Ice since he is an old man now lol :banana:
I'd let you.... take me that is. :laugh:

Lady_Raven
09-22-2007, 05:53 PM
Lol!!!