Folding@ Home

[Mwynn]

Anyone have this turned on?

[Lovecraft13]

WTF is folding @ home?

[Mwynn]

http://folding.stanford.edu/

It was in the ps3 1.6 update.

[Biofungus]

WTF is folding @ home?
I think it has something to do with virtual laundry...

[Lovecraft13]

Is it that cancer thing?

[GIGAFATTIMON]

Cancer is part of it but I think Stanford's main focus in this is Alzheimer's

[Biofungus]

Those bastards.


Everyone knows playing these games will give you cancer, not alzheimers...

[DemolitionSamurai]

Alzheimer's runs in the wife's side of the family, so thanks for showing me this because it's definitely something I'd like to help cure.

[Mwynn]

http://homepage.mac.com/denkinews/images/games/folding1.jpg

The Ps3's are really working this program.

[GIGAFATTIMON]

That's quite an impressive figure for just under 19,000 games consoles

[Biofungus]

So each playstation3 has about 100+ cpu's working on it, eh? :p

[Mwynn]

That's quite an impressive figure for just under 19,000 games consoles
The PS3's are really speeding up the process.

[Toyandgadgetguy]

I'm so lost. What the heck is this thread about.

[Biofungus]

More Sony propaganda?

I think it's nice what they're doing, but those numbers seem terribly inaccurate/false/impossible/improbable.

[Calloway]

tiny as well...considering units sold.

[Mwynn]

The stats come directly from the stanford webpage.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats

The cell chip streams data faster than any cpu.

[Mwynn]

tiny as well...considering units sold.
Not really because you can not run anything else while the folding program is on.

[Mwynn]

I'm so lost. What the heck is this thread about.
Did you click the link?

http://folding.stanford.edu/

[Calloway]

Kinda reminds me of the seti project...that went no where.

[Biofungus]

Not really because you can not run anything else while the folding program is on.
I think he's talking about, if you consider the 'total cpu' on the right to be the total number of PS3's on the market, and the column next to it to be the number actually used for the project, it's only about 11-12% of the total. That is small. If the purpose of 'folding' was to utilize the PS3 when they were idle, that means that only about 12% of all PS3's are actually online at any given time.

[Mwynn]

I think he's talking about, if you consider the 'total cpu' on the right to be the total number of PS3's on the market, and the column next to it to be the number actually used for the project, it's only about 11-12% of the total. That is small. If the purpose of 'folding' was to utilize the PS3 when they were idle, that means that only about 12% of all PS3's are actually online at any given time.
The program does not run when the PS3 is idle.

[Mwynn]

Kinda reminds me of the seti project...that went no where.
An Infinite amount of space would take how long to search?

[Biofungus]

An Infinite amount of space would take how long to search?
just because we haven't found the exact boundaries, doesn't mean they don't exist ;)

[Calloway]

went no where as in people dropped it. Space isn't infinite either according to 99 percent of popular theories...there is an edge filled with black holes...WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! AHHHHH!!!!!

[Mwynn]

went no where as in people dropped it. Space isn't infinite either according to 99 percent of popular theories...there is an edge filled with black holes...WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE! AHHHHH!!!!!
How do you know we are not dead already?

[Calloway]

Because in death I can't bleed...der...I mean, ever seen a zombie bleed? Come on now :rolleyes:

[Biofungus]

The program does not run when the PS3 is idle.
It's meant to be run when you're not doing anything else on your PS3, for about an 8 hour stretch. When the machine is on but you're not doing anything interactive with it, that's known as "idle".

[Mwynn]

It's meant to be run when you're not doing anything else on your PS3, for about an 8 hour stretch. When the machine is on but you're not doing anything interactive with it, that's known as "idle".
Nope sorry, to idle the ps3 it has to go into low power mode. Folding is not idle.

[Calloway]

I think Mark is refering to the correct definition of idle...which it would be doing. Like your car running but not going anywhere.

[Biofungus]

Nope sorry, to idle the ps3 it has to go into low power mode. Folding is not idle.

Yeah no.

Main Entry: 1idle
Pronunciation: 'I-d&l
Function: adjective
2 : not occupied or employed: as a : having no employment : INACTIVE <idle workers> b : not turned to normal or appropriate use

[Mwynn]

Yeah no.

Main Entry: 1idle
Pronunciation: 'I-d&l
Function: adjective
2 : not occupied or employed: as a : having no employment : INACTIVE <idle workers> b : not turned to normal or appropriate use
Uh Inactive or not in use, would mean it is not being used. Which is not what happens when folding is in use. The PS3 actually draw more power, which is why most people will not run it.

[Mwynn]

I think Mark is refering to the correct definition of idle...which it would be doing. Like your car running but not going anywhere.
The car would have to be in motion, using power from the battery and gas. As I said while folding the PS3 is using more power, than while playing a game or a movie.

[Calloway]

BUT YOU ARE NOT USING IT...comprehende?

[Mr.Musgrave]

BUT YOU ARE NOT USING IT...comprehende?


Good luck.

[Mwynn]

BUT YOU ARE NOT USING IT...comprehende?
Check your spelling there bub. Depends on the person, there are still things you can do while folding is running. The program is interactive.

Whether you are using it or not the system is sucking up power. Which pushes it out of the realm of inactive.

[Calloway]

and a car uses gas and electricity in idle which is far from being inactive....know what? Nevermind, I've seen where this goes and I'd rather not.

[Mwynn]

and a car uses gas and electricity in idle which is far from being inactive....know what? Nevermind, I've seen where this goes and I'd rather not.
It is going no where. Gotta have the PS3 Folding to know what it does.

[Calloway]

How do I have to have it to know the basic definition of idle?

[Biofungus]

Uh Inactive or not in use, would mean it is not being used. Which is not what happens when folding is in use. The PS3 actually draw more power, which is why most people will not run it.
What part of:
not turned to normal or appropriate use

Do you not understand?

[Biofungus]

Check your spelling there bub. Depends on the person, there are still things you can do while folding is running. The program is interactive.

Whether you are using it or not the system is sucking up power. Which pushes it out of the realm of inactive.
Wow, you are one big, walking technicality.

You can view a few statistics. Whoop. The program however, is not designed for general interactivity (that would waste the very cpu cycles they are trying to garner from the project).

And again, it STILL fits the part of the definition of:
not turned to normal or appropriate use

[Mwynn]

Wow, you are one big, walking technicality.

You can view a few statistics. Whoop. The program however, is not designed for general interactivity (that would waste the very cpu cycles they are trying to garner from the project).

And again, it STILL fits the part of the definition of:
You can do more than view statistics. Which if you had a ps3 and folding, you would know.

[Mwynn]

Or you could have use the power of google. Did a search for PS3 Idle, and saved yourself sometime. In any event, this was fun. I am sure we will do this again.

[Biofungus]

Someday, you will own a dictionary and know the PROPER and ACCEPTED meanings of words.

[Mr.Musgrave]

Someday, you will own a dictionary and know the PROPER and ACCEPTED meanings of words.


Good luck with that too.

[Toyandgadgetguy]

Did you click the link?

http://folding.stanford.edu/

Yes. I'm still unsure how this project works. I think I'm missing something crucial.

[Mwynn]

Yes. I'm still unsure how this project works. I think I'm missing something crucial.
What is protein folding and how is folding linked to disease? Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out these important functions, they assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, in many ways remains a mystery.

Moreover, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious consequences, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes.

You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals.

Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved.

They are basically linking the cpu's to create one super computer. The Cell works the best because it is adaptive and can stream data faster than any cpu on the market.

They hope to cut down on the time, it will take to complete the task.

[Toyandgadgetguy]

What is protein folding and how is folding linked to disease? Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out these important functions, they assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, in many ways remains a mystery.

Moreover, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious consequences, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes.

You can help by simply running a piece of software. Folding@Home is a distributed computing project -- people from through out the world download and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer makes the project closer to our goals.

Folding@Home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems thousands to millions of times more challenging than previously achieved.

They are basically linking the cpu's to create one super computer. The Cell works the best because it is adaptive and can stream data faster than any cpu on the market.

They hope to cut down on the time, it will take to complete the task.

So they are running this 'little' application on the PS3?

[Mwynn]

Yes and Macs and PC's.

[Toyandgadgetguy]

I see. So this applies to video games mostly to it being on the PS3. It's an unusual application... maybe brilliant... maybe dangerous. The age of machines may very well be upon us. If they develop awareness... I'm hopping the next flight to Mars. Either that, or I'm hiding in Jon's barn.

[Mwynn]

If cures can be found, it will be worth it. The Cell is adaptive so it does think.

[Biofungus]

The Cell is adaptive so it does think.
It's good that something here does...

[Calloway]

LMAO! :laugh: