Zelda

[Mwynn]

Wow the sales have dipped since Ocarina of Time.

1986 The Legend Of Zelda NES 1.69m
1987 Adventure Of Link NES 1.61m
1991 Link To The Past SNES 1.16m
1998 Ocarina Of Time N64 1.46m
2000 Majoras Mask N64 0.74m
2002 Wind Waker GC 0.86m
2006 Twilight Princess Wii 0.60m (est)

Ocarina changed the way Zelda was played. They then added nothing in the last three games. Forgot to add these are the Japanese sells.

[Mr.Musgrave]

Care to source these numbers or should we just chalk this up to more of your misinformation? Because Gamespot reports the numbers this way:

The Legend of Zelda 6.5 million
The Adventure of Link 4.3 million
A Link to the Past 4.5 million
Ocarina of Time 7.1 million
Majoras Mask 3.0 million
The Wind Waker 2.4 million
Twilight Princess 1.5 million+

So far, the only thing you've proven is that the sales have dipped since Ocarina. Which means nothing when it's not compared against other video game sales since that time. Acording to Fox news, the Zelda games are the 13th highest selling franchise of all time. Somehow I doubt they're too worried.

[Nitecrawlah2]

I'm assuming the Twilight Princess numbers include both the GC and Wii versions? Should sell even more once it hits the "Best Sellers" Gamecube lineup.

[Mwynn]

Check the edit.

You can use this site to search the numbers.

http://www.vgcharts.org/japtotals.php

[Mwynn]

I'm assuming the Twilight Princess numbers include both the GC and Wii versions? Should sell even more once it hits the "Best Sellers" Gamecube lineup.
Yeah on the Wii it is around 400,000. With 1.6 million Wii sold that is a very small user base. For what was pretty much the best Wii game so far.

The top sellers were.
Wii Sports
1,035,250
Wii Play
895,750

[Mr.Musgrave]

Check the edit.

You can use this site to search the numbers.

http://www.vgcharts.org/japtotals.php

So you're ignoring american sales then?

[HaphazardJoy]

I'd chalk it more up to their consoles than their quality.

[onizuka43]

When Ocarina came out the 64 was a couple years old and had time to grow users of the system so buying Ocarina was only a 50 dollar investment, while Twilight Princess was the opening note for a new system. To play it you needed to drop 300 bones down, and still it's selling three copies for every four wii's sold. That to me is doing real dam well especally when then gamecube never even dreamed of those numbers.

[Lovecraft13]

Yeah on the Wii it is around 400,000. With 1.6 million Wii sold that is a very small user base. For what was pretty much the best Wii game so far.

The top sellers were.
Wii Sports
1,035,250
Wii Play
895,750


Wii Sports sold a total of 851,535 copies in Japan since January 21st. As of Jan 14, Zelda sold a total of 353,492 copies in Japan. All according to Famitsu magazine, which a far better source than that vgcharts website. In North America alone, Zelda: TP sold over a million copies as of Feb, which can be discovered by a simple google search. I don't know if you base all of your sources from vgcharts, but your facts are nowhere near right.

[Mwynn]

Wii Sports sold a total of 851,535 copies in Japan since January 21st. As of Jan 14, Zelda sold a total of 353,492 copies in Japan.
So what you are saying is that neither sold any copies from then to now?

[Mwynn]

When Ocarina came out the 64 was a couple years old and had time to grow users of the system so buying Ocarina was only a 50 dollar investment, while Twilight Princess was the opening note for a new system. To play it you needed to drop 300 bones down, and still it's selling three copies for every four wii's sold. That to me is doing real dam well especally when then gamecube never even dreamed of those numbers.
I'll go for that, yet how would you account for the low numbers on Majoras Mask and Windwaker.

[Lovecraft13]

So what you are saying is that neither sold any copies from then to now?

Is that even a serious question?

[Mwynn]

Is that even a serious question?
You threw out numbers from a month ago, so you tell me.

[Lovecraft13]

You threw out numbers from a month ago, so you tell me.

No, it wasn't a serious question.

[Lovecraft13]

TOP 10 GAMES: December 31, 2006-February 3, 2007:
1) Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (Xbox 360, Capcom, January 2007)
2) Guitar Hero II (with Guitar Controller) (PS2, Activision, November 2006)
3) Gears of War (Xbox 360, Microsoft, November 2006)
4) WarioWare: Smooth Moves (Wii, Nintendo, January 2007)
5) Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii, Nintendo, November 2006)
6) Madden NFL 07 (PS2, Electronic Arts, Aug. 2006)
7) Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GameCube, Nintendo, November 2006)
8) Resistance: Fall of Man (PS3, SCEA, November 2006)
9) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas (Xbox 360, Ubisoft, November 2006)
10) New Super Mario Bros. (DS, Nintendo, May 2006)

-gamespot

[Mwynn]

1/8 to 1/14
1. Wii Sports (Wii) 61,399 / 794,118
2. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (DS) 55,180 / 916,000
3. Wii Play (Wii) 54,578 / 719,089
4. Common Knowledge Training (DS) 35,819 / 1,098,912
5. New Super Mario Bros. (DS) 34,628 / 4,003,134
6. More Brain Age (DS) 32,865 / 3,838,652
7. Animal Crossing: Wild World (DS) 32,864 / 3,876,696
8. Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops (PSP) 28,152 / 306,359
9. Pokémon Diamond (DS) 22,982 / 2,502,801
10. Mario Kart DS (DS) 22,640 / 1,997,233
Here are the top ten for the week of January 15 through January 21.

1. .hack//G.U. Vol. 3 (PS2) - 136,790 / new
2. Wario: The Seven (DS) - 91,249 / new
3. Shining Force EXA (PS2) - 72,306 / new
4. Wii Sports (WII) - 57,418 / 851,535
5. Wii Play (WII) - 45,724 / 764,813
6. Dragon Shadow Spell (PS2) - 40,541 / new
7. Gears of War (360) - 33,212 / new
8. Seikaiju Maze (DS) - 32,511 / new
9. Common Knowledge Training (DS) - 31,735 / 1,130,647
10. More Brain Age (DS) - 29,626 / 3,868,279

Japan for the week of February 5th to the 11th.

01. Virtua Fighter 5 (PS3) - 48,346 / new
02. Wii Sports (Wii) - 45,897 / 1,004,555
03. Wii Play (Wii) - 36,090 / 879,432
04. More Brain Age (DS) - 32,800 / 3,963,712
05. New Super Mario Bros. (DS) - 29,026 / 4,118,078
06. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (PS2) - 27,519 / 304,113
07. Wario: Master of Disguise (DS) - 26,815 / 185,695
08. Harvest Moon: The Island I Grew Up On (DS) - 26,804 / 106,212
09. Luminous Arc (DS) - 25,676 / new
10. J-League Pro Soccer 5 (PS2) - 24,468 / 131,541

[Mwynn]

UK Video Game Chart
Week 1, 2007

1: FIFA 07
2: NEED FOR SPEED: CARBON
3: THE SIMS 2: PETS
4: PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER 6
5: CANIS CANEM EDIT
6: CALL OF DUTY 3
7: CARS
8: LEGO STAR WARS II: THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY
9: NEW SUPER MARIO BROS.
10: GEARS OF WAR

[Calloway]

I think zelda sales dropped because that second game on n64 looked crappy and was way delayed...so was the next game and the next. Sure to lose fans there BUT I've heard the gameboy zeldas more then made up for that.

[Biofungus]

Well, the thing was, Ocarina of time was a good game, then Majora's mask was a crappy sequel, then Wind Waker and people were like "WTF?", then Twilight Princess... and there was much rejoicing.

And inbetween there a few Gameboy Zelda games came out that, due to hardware limitations were sort of pushed back to the old nes/snes roots, but with clever game mechanisms and people liked those too. And there was much rejoicing.




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[Mwynn]

Both Majora's MAsk and Windwaker, were very highly rated games, not just by the media but also the fans.

[Mr.Musgrave]

I couldn't get into Majora's Mask at all but Wind Waker is probably my favorite Zelda game to date. Twilight Princess has been okay so far but it's not as jaw-dropping as people make it out to be.

[Calloway]

Both Majora's MAsk and Windwaker, were very highly rated games, not just by the media but also the fans.

Not what the mags were saying at the time. I remember seeing it and laughing my ass off because they lied to fans at the ces showing screen shots of something that looked totally different.

[Mr.Musgrave]

That was never a game and they never claimed it was a game. Those ces zelda shots were to show off the hardware power. The fans ran with it, just like they did the mario 128 shots. If people would listen once in a while they wouldn't end up dissapointed.

[Lovecraft13]

That was never a game and they never claimed it was a game. Those ces zelda shots were to show off the hardware power. The fans ran with it, just like they did the mario 128 shots. If people would listen once in a while they wouldn't end up dissapointed.

I can see why they'd be disappointed though, going from realism to cell-shaded did raise a few eyebrows. I personally never liked Wind Waker simply because I felt the world was too underdeveloped-- 80 percent of the map was just tiny little islands with a small treasure. No real sense of reward for the trouble.

[Nitecrawlah2]

I personally never liked Wind Waker simply because I felt the world was too underdeveloped-- 80 percent of the map was just tiny little islands with a small treasure. No real sense of reward for the trouble.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm certain 2/3 of my playing time was going about that HUGE sea map and hitting up these teeny islands. I still enjoyed the game though.

[Lovecraft13]

Exactly my thoughts. I'm certain 2/3 of my playing time was going about that HUGE sea map and hitting up these teeny islands. I still enjoyed the game though.

I will admit that I loved the final boss battle.