LOGO/Title Draw-Off [Archive] - Digital Webbing Forums

Locoduck

01-16-2007, 01:23 PM

Okay this is a draw off and a competition. I have a book coming out in February Called TRAGIC THE CLOWN. It will debut at the Orlando Megacon. I am looking for a title or logo design for the cover. It is a one shot guaranteed to see print. The winning logo will be used as the the logo for the book, and be published. The Winner will be listed as the Designer of the Title, and have a listing to their website as well in the book. Winner will also recieve comps of the book and a small fee.

Colors for the LOGO should be in Reds, Blacks, or Whites. But RED is a must.
The Logo should reflect a whimsical circus/party like quality.

All print rights will become property of www.locoduck.com.

The voting will be held by a private vote between myself and a handful of consultants.

All votes will be final, and www.locoduck.com reserves the right change or alter the logo before printing.

I hope this gets some attention, as it is a nice opportunity for recognition and some cash.

Contest ends Jan 31st.

Commentary, questions and Artwork can be placed in this thread.

danedawg99

01-16-2007, 01:47 PM

any kind of brief about the character?

wisper

01-16-2007, 02:39 PM

story line referance///age of said clown, background/ killer clown/ loser clown/ kids/scarry/clown???

Twyla

01-16-2007, 05:22 PM

I'm wondering the same thing. I've got several ideas already, but each has a different theme.

OZ!

01-17-2007, 01:15 AM

Does this seem like a sheister's deal to any of ya'll? What exactly do we get out of this?

Rothart

01-17-2007, 01:57 AM

I think we need to know more about the main character. More specifics.

Locoduck

01-17-2007, 03:12 PM

Hey OZ why don't you read the guidelines to answer your question. Money, Publication, Credit, and Comps of the book. Plus a portfolio piece. Seems like you get something. Sheesh. :huh:

I'm posting a little more background info momentarily.

Biofungus

01-17-2007, 03:20 PM

Does this seem like a sheister's deal to any of ya'll? What exactly do we get out of this?
Nah, Mike's on the up and up. Even if he wasn't offering what he is (and I think it's pretty fair), he's a good guy.

I'd consider participating, but it took me 4 years to do my website logo :p (and I fully intend to *hire* someone to do the logo for my comic when it's ready to go :laugh: )

Locoduck

01-17-2007, 03:38 PM

Thanks Bio!

And speaking of Bio's......
Here is an image of Tragic.

http://www.locoduck.com/tragicava.jpg
He is a big city Party Clown. The most hired in the city. Very happy go lucky in contrast to the face paint that he wears. Has a dark secret though. Meets a Party planner named (PARTY) Marty and falls in love.

The book is obviously not your traditional super hero book. More character driven. Trying to pull off a Romantic Dramedy in funny book form.

I'm not looking for something real over the top complicated, as it's going to be on a mostly black cover.

I was going to do it myself as I've done everything else, (writing, pencils, inks, greyscales, layouts, and lettering) But I figured I'd toss it out as a contest to give the forum a real WIN SOMETHING vibe. And give you crazy guys and gals another chance at publication, and exposure. But of course it is a DRAW OFF which means you don't HAVE to participate, but at least you get something tangible out of this win.

Anyway, that's that. Any other questions just holla!

JaySavage

01-17-2007, 04:33 PM

I think the deal is pretty cool, thanks Mike. :thumbs:

xaltair

01-17-2007, 06:01 PM

Hi!

Do you need a logo for the book or a title, or both? Just wondering. Very cool draw-off though. :har:

OZ!

01-17-2007, 06:48 PM

Nah, Mike's on the up and up. Even if he wasn't offering what he is (and I think it's pretty fair), he's a good guy.

I'd consider participating, but it took me 4 years to do my website logo :p (and I fully intend to *hire* someone to do the logo for my comic when it's ready to go :laugh: )

Oh, I know he's a good guy. I just think having a logo and your name is kinda pointless unless that's what you went to school for. Sorry that it came out sounding harsh. I hadn't really thought about how it sounded at the time. Just thought it was kinda weird, never thought logos were such a big deal. :huh: Oh well, learn somethin' new everyday.

Biofungus

01-17-2007, 08:20 PM

If you don't think logos are a big deal, lurk on a graphic design newsgroup for awhile :)

Twyla

01-17-2007, 11:13 PM

Sorry I don't have the inking and coloring skills to really bring this to life but, for what it's worth...
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q103/Twyla_Naythias/Untitled.jpg?t=1169093559

MaxMayhem

01-18-2007, 06:25 PM

.. I was initially gonna go for a freakshow/old school hardcore carnie design. Looks like I'll be re-sketching this one. :p Thanks for the info, loco!

Gwlister

01-20-2007, 02:38 AM

http://www.listerart.com/dwboards/TragicClown.jpg

Rothart

01-20-2007, 09:45 PM

Here's mine. Enjoy!

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo.jpg

omega sentry

01-20-2007, 11:07 PM

GW that one is awsome but uhhmmm it looks Homicidal. Of course that is why I like it... :w00t:

xaltair

01-21-2007, 07:43 PM

This is definetely a cool and unique draw-off. I was going to do a title thing but you mentioned logo so i thought a logo it'd be easier to place on the book, besides changes can always be made. I didn't know what to do till you showed us the face of Tragic and his backstory. As soon as I saw his face i knew he'd have to be part of the logo, so i wanted his face to be there and then i had to play with the text to make sure it's fun, since he's a pretty happy go lucky clown. So, i played with the text a bit and then added some effects to make sure it stands out over the black background. I figured the black circle would fit on the cover since you said it's mostly black anyways. I'm still not sure if I got it spot on so i may change it by jan 31st, but till then this is how i think the logo should be. Phew!!! :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/xaltair/tragictheclownlogo.jpg

Biofungus

01-21-2007, 09:48 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/Biofungus/tragic-the-clown.jpg

Matt the Greek

01-22-2007, 12:27 PM

Long time no see... so I thought I'd throw my big floppy clown shoes in the ring.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/Matt_the_Greek/tragic.jpg

Locoduck

01-22-2007, 01:53 PM

A little more info.
Here is the rough cover design and roughly where the placement will be. There are some cool things going on here so far. I don't want the logo/title to distract too much from the image. Something simple, even solitude-ish.
And a little more background on Tragic. He's not like a mass murderer or rapist or anything. Think quasimodo under the paint, and how people might react to him without the paint.
It really is a love story/ romantic comedy, that everyone can relate too.
http://www.locoduck.com/tragiccover3.jpg

Incidently, I'll more than likely have a page in the book to showcase the logos everyone submitted, so everyone wins. It will be in the back of the book with a few pinups that are being done.

Matt the Greek

01-22-2007, 05:40 PM

:blink: :laugh: Woah! OK, looks like I got totally the wrong idea there... this second pic looks a lot more realistic (and borderline-suicidal) than the cheerful, cartoony first image. Guess it's back to the ol' drawing board.

So which style is the interior in?

Locoduck

01-22-2007, 08:44 PM

Actually Matt, there were quite a few things I liked about your design. The interiors are in the vain of the first posted Image. This is just a rough draft of the cover....waaay overly rendered.

wisper

01-22-2007, 10:02 PM

my scanner is down. so this is just a ruff..
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/161/tragic0018ia.th.jpg (http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tragic0018ia.jpg)

Rothart

01-22-2007, 10:46 PM

Logo Atempt #2

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo2.jpg

Rotin

01-22-2007, 11:08 PM

Rothart..Man I`m really liking that sad little clown you`ve got in the Capital T, but it`s just lost somewhat...I`m not 100% sure how to remedy it, but that`s got some huge potential in my opinion...

Rothart

01-22-2007, 11:32 PM

I think maybe the white type might be a little over powering but the little clown is supposed to be subtle and not to take away from the art that Locoduck wants to put on the cover. I'll tweak with the white type and see what I come up with.

Locoduck, how many times can we post for revisions?

Rothart

01-22-2007, 11:53 PM

I went for a reversal on atempt #3. Now you can see the clown a little better.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo3.jpg

Twyla

01-22-2007, 11:58 PM

I went for a reversal on atempt #3. Now you can see the clown a little better.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo3.jpg
Not much point in the rest of us trying further. I think the winner's right here.

Biofungus

01-23-2007, 01:18 AM

Almost. Put "the clown" on the same line (and then right align it) and it's perfect (well, until Loco says it is at least ;)

Rothart

01-23-2007, 01:47 AM

Almost. Put "the clown" on the same line (and then right align it) and it's perfect (well, until Loco says it is at least )

mmkay...here's #4.

Thanks guys.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo4.jpg

Locoduck

01-23-2007, 02:42 AM

Revise away guys....
nice work rothart!
You guys all definitely are wetting the proverbial whistle!

Matt the Greek

01-23-2007, 03:16 AM

Really like your work Rothart, but to be honest I totally prefer your second posting (with the subtle clown), it felt more like a logo in itself. To bring out the clown a little more (and I agree with Rotin, it does get a bit lost) try just switching the colors - white for "Tragic" and red for the rest, as with your later ones. Nice dude.

Twyla

01-23-2007, 09:19 AM

I'm gonna have to (respectfully, of course) disagree with ya here. Attempt #3 works better on a number of levels.

~ With the white 'Tragic' (as opposed to #2) it gives the subtle illusion that the clown is standing in a 'doorway' of sorts. Very appropriate given the story description. It also allows for his nose to stand out in red, as opposed to the shilouette in #2.
~ The additional 'outline' of the clown figure makes it more pronounced; he doesn't "blend in", which is also a key story element.
~ With 'The Clown' in two lines (as opposed to one line in #4), it seems a bit more disjointed but, in this case, that is a good thing. It is reflective of the character without being a dead giveaway.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo3.jpgNot my call to make, obviously, but my $4.95 on the matter.

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Rothart

01-23-2007, 04:38 PM

Thanks for everyone's comments. I like 2,3 and 4 personally but it will all be up to Loco in the end and he can choose which version he likes. If he likes them at all.

Till then, lets see some more from everyone else! I like this kind of competition.

I for some reason can't see GW's entry.

xaltair

01-23-2007, 07:38 PM

I've changed mine a bit too, since Loco posted the cover design, i've realized there's no point to put his face in the logo since his face will be all over the cover, so i've changed it to text only for now. That is unless I find something else i can do with it by the deadline. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/xaltair/tragictheclown2.jpg

Gwlister

01-24-2007, 05:58 PM

Biofungus

01-24-2007, 06:28 PM

Is it showing now? I've checked on the different computers I have access to and its there. Can anyone see it?
I have no problem seeing it.

Rothart

01-24-2007, 09:13 PM

Is it showing now? I've checked on the different computers I have access to and its there. Can anyone see it?

No I still can't see it. Maybe it's because I'm using Safari instead of Explorer. This happens a lot.

Biofungus

01-24-2007, 09:15 PM

I'm using Firefox, but isn't Safari mac?

Rothart

01-24-2007, 10:15 PM

I'm using Firefox, but isn't Safari mac?

Yup, G5, love it. And will never go back to PC.

Matt the Greek

01-25-2007, 03:54 AM

No I still can't see it. Maybe it's because I'm using Safari instead of Explorer. This happens a lot.

Nope, it's not that. I'm using Safari at work and I see Gwlister's posting just fine. Maybe your firewall or internet security settings don't like whatever dodgy site he's linking from. :p

Rothart

01-25-2007, 03:21 PM

I finally saw GW's artwork on my system here at work. Looks great.

Gwlister

01-26-2007, 12:31 AM

Nope, it's not that. I'm using Safari at work and I see Gwlister's posting just fine. Maybe your firewall or internet security settings don't like whatever dodgy site he's linking from. :p

Heh heh...I'm linking from my own webhost. I've been playing with the Hotlink protection because I found several of my images hotlinked from my webpage to various myspace.com accounts. It should be set correctly if some of you guys out there are seeing the art now.

Rothart

01-30-2007, 04:53 PM

No other entries huh?

blue_kang

01-30-2007, 07:46 PM

http://www.riellanglois.com/images/tragictheclown-riellanglois.jpg

Montana

01-31-2007, 04:30 AM

Ooo it reminds me of a carnival.

Locoduck

01-31-2007, 10:31 AM

Just a reminder that this is the last day to enter. :kewl:

blue_kang

01-31-2007, 07:21 PM

http://www.riellanglois.com/images/tragictheclown-riellanglois.jpg

I reread some of the earlier posts and realized that the logo might have to be on a black background. Here's a reworking to demonstrate how the logo would work on black.

http://www.riellanglois.com/images/tragictheclown-black-riellanglois.jpg

wisper

02-01-2007, 08:32 PM

computer's been off line..tryed to edit my post but couldnt..
http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/5214/tragic2wr3.th.jpg (http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tragic2wr3.jpg)

Rothart

02-02-2007, 01:32 AM

When are we going to know the outcome?

Locoduck

02-02-2007, 04:14 PM

In a few days. There's some nice stuff here. :kewl:

xaltair

02-02-2007, 09:43 PM

In a few days. There's some nice stuff here. :kewl:

Take your time, we can wait. I'm sure you have to take into account variations of the logos too, as in my second one it could work without the heart, but i put it there so you can see it with the heart, or it could be just the text.

:)

blue_kang

02-03-2007, 08:36 PM

mmkay...here's #4.

Thanks guys.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h126/Rothart/Tragic-Logo4.jpg

You know, I could TOTALLY see this one being the only thing on the cover, without the face close-up. Just a black background and this logo. That way the little clown wouldn't take away from the face or vice versa.

I could see myself picking up the book with this title on black. There's nothing wrong with the close-up, it's just that the simplicity would grab me.

compton

02-07-2007, 01:15 PM

then for the future books the T can be the publisher thing they put in the corner.

Locoduck

02-08-2007, 11:53 AM

This was beyond tough! It came down to two battling it out at the end. But this one just seemed to capture the entire mood of the story! I had to change the logo up a bit colorwise to accomodate the cover illustration, but in doing so it gave it a nice weathered face paint look, and old time carny poster vibe.
Thank you so much for participating!
TRAGIC THE CLOWN will be available February 14th for ordering through my website, my myspace page, Indy Planet, and certain conventions. The Official release will be at megacon in Orlando.

http://www.locoduck.com/tragicfrontcover.jpg

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