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Justice41
01-04-2007, 11:40 PM
Finally just sat down and finished it...as much as I could muster.
Yeah i know the M-16 is huge. I meant to do that.... Really I did. Now to finally finish the female versions.
http://www.architecturalartz.com/images/the%20savage.jpg

Bradleyo
01-05-2007, 12:05 AM
Very Nice!
Watch the black on blacks though, and give Wolvies hair some mass.
You know what I mean? Give it some solid shapes so that it doesn't get lost in the inking.
Love the clean style.

Justice41
01-05-2007, 12:11 AM
Thanks but this is it. I'll touch up Wolvy's hair but I'm not inking this. I'm so done with it already..... ;)

Defpotec
01-05-2007, 01:04 AM
Whats up with the huge M-16 ;)

This looks really nice indeed.

Lord Fejj
01-05-2007, 02:30 AM
Damn, now I have to go break all my pencils again! Looks awesome!

SweetyPulp
01-05-2007, 06:28 AM
That’s a great start, you’ve got a lot of talent! I think if you just worked on your anatomy a little you’ll be a pro in no time. Keep up the good work and I’ll keep an eye on you, and I’m sure the other members of this board will be encouraging and offer helpful advice. This is a great place to post your work to get feedback and check out some really cool work from some really cool people too. Look around and post a few comments, we’d love to hear from you. Everyone here just wants to help, no matter how good we are we can all use advice and work to improve. Learning is a life long process and no one ever feels satisfied with where they are at the moment. But if you look back at the work you did a few months ago you will be amazed by your progress, I know I was! I couldn’t believe how bad my old work was, I noticed errors everywhere. I’m so glad I’ve improved so much in this time, and I owe a lot of my progress to the help of the people on this board! It makes me want to break out the pencils and draw even more so I can continue to improve. I hope one day I’m as good as some of the artists who post here, and I’m sure anyone who has the dedication can make it.

I’d recommend reading the book, “Figure Drawing For All It’s Worth” by Andrew Loomis. The book helped me so much just by working through the exercises they show. For instance did you know the typical human body is 7 heads tall? That was so helpful and now I measure all my figures that way which was so helpful. I also recommend the book, “Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain” which you should really pick up if you haven’t already. It’s extremely motivational, thinking about it just makes me want to grab some pencils right now! Just be careful not to get too sucked into their style, a lot of amateur artists try to imitate a famous style and it hurts their work. Study from the old masters, the Loomis book, and most of all LIFE. Drawing from life everyday has taught me so much! Your style will develop naturally, so don’t worry about that right now, just focus on the basics (like perspective for example). Everyone has their own style which is inborn and unique, and they learn to discover it as they draw more.

You said you worried you didn’t have enough talent? No offense but that’s kung-phooey! When I started out I had absolutely no talent, but I was able to learn and improve anyway. Talent is actually just a myth, it doesn’t exist at all! People get to where they are through hard work, these people deserve to be where they are and talent had nothing to do with it. It is all about doing the work everyday, just make sure you have fun too! Well, I hope I didn’t tire you out with my long post (whew!)! Just watch that anatomy a little and you’ll be a star around here in no time. Don’t worry if people don’t respond at first, you just have to stick with it. Just keep posting, I look forward to seeing your progress!

chaosgoat
01-05-2007, 06:42 AM
Wow, Sweety, you made sense!! (why is it that I keep posting right after you?)

Very cool. The shading is badass. Hell, the whole thing is badass.

swift06
01-05-2007, 07:29 AM
Well, first of all, I like the cleanliness of this drawing, and it's alright to do exagerrated anatomy in drawing, after all , this is comic right? We're not doing real life painting in art school. Also I'm sensing the 90s feel on your drawing.
But, I have something that really bugging me in technical point of view and need to pointing it out. Somehow, I see that most of comic artists that I have encounter seems to lazy to study on how to draw machinery, electronically and military stuff realistically, especially in the US. Compare to your counterpart in Japan and Europe. As evident in this particular drawing. Please guys, at least draw the M16 A2 w/ M203 grenade launcher right.
Before I see some mud throwing at me, emphasize on "most". Off course there is some exception, like Adam Hughes, Jim Lee (back in Punisher war journal year), Brian Steelfreeze and some.

The Scribe
01-05-2007, 11:06 PM
I'm not crazy about the line up, but this is a great sketch. :thumbs:

Do you submit to comic companies?

I'd hire you if I had the money.

:kewl:

darnelbond009
01-06-2007, 12:21 AM
fraggin sweeT!!! :kewl:

Grimboy
01-06-2007, 12:36 AM
Great pic! Just one crit though; The magazine on the M-203 needs to go back towards the magazine well. It is too far out on the weapon. Other than that; great job!

Fresco
01-06-2007, 02:10 AM
Yeah, yeah its good, its good...

Now lets cut to the chase... stuff that jumps out at me is--
there is soooo much going on in the area between Wolverine's legs. All that visual information is creating all kinds of tangents... (same with the legs meeting on the lower right hand side with the feet on the Hulk, Quicksilver, Punisher, and Wolverine.)


Note how Punisher is holding the gun? Maybe the arm is wonky... or the gun should be more 3/4 turn instead of being in perfect profile. The way it disappears behind his shoulder makes is feel akward... is it horrible? No... is is good enough... sure, maybe... but I know you know better than that. The hand and forearm the way it attaches to his upper arm and all, is not feeling very much like he is holding a heavy weapon. The center of gravity seems to be off as well, so that might be more superman-ish holding up a tank that to him is light as a feather... Punisher is a really strong guy but has no super-strength holding up a REALLY heavy piece of hardware.

Same with the belt across his chest... it's really straight... so instead of his torso reading as rippling musculature of superheroic proportions... it flattens him out. Should be more curved, to show the upper body is in 3/4 view... not a straight up front shot of his chest.

Also this is a group shot-- not just a collection of four figure drawings. How do the characters relate to each other?

Putting the 'X' in X-Men :blink: I am sure the Punisher looked good on his own... but in this composition, I suggest putting his hand at his waist, on his belt or something... right now, he may as well be giving Wolverine a prostate exam the way Logan is presenting his glutes to him with that body language. All kidding aside... even if the hand was relaxed and not wearing a rubber glove, look at where its at... and look at how Wolverine is standing... an unfortunate set of circumstances to say the least. Not that there is anything wrong with prostate exams... just not sure a 'class photo' is the right place and the right time for that sort of extra-curricular activity. :har:


(the veins in Hulk's arm read a little like wrinkles in a skin tight spandex costume to me. Not sure what to do to change that effect... )


Draw from life, man... I know you know this suff... but feeling it all falling a little flat here, even with all the kickass rendering.

okay... no seriously-- in spite of the crits, its a really nice drawing... nice pencil work, fun to look at.

zombiekiller 013
01-06-2007, 03:32 AM
I'm with Fresco on this, he brought up some really good points! Great work though, Wolvie's expression is spot on. It feels like a breath of fresh air to see something rendered as nice as this Justice41, I'm going to look at more of your work.