View Full Version : Another dc mystery the 13

12-14-2006, 02:54 PM
According to Prof. Ivo, there MUST be 13 immortals for balance who walk this world

"truly immortal not perceived so through totems or magicks. Always thriteen, that's the balance.

Ivo is 1.

12-14-2006, 02:57 PM
Your DC threads are always so vague and cryptic.

Is this from 52, or Justice League of America?

12-14-2006, 02:58 PM

12-14-2006, 03:03 PM
Are you asking who they are?

12-14-2006, 03:04 PM
Sure why not.

1. Ivo
2. Vandall Savage

12-14-2006, 03:07 PM
Well, I guess it depends whether the Endless are part of the DCU. Sandman, Death and Destiny have all appeared outside of Vertigo, but I doubt they're counted. Same for Cain and Abel, who now inhabit The Dreaming.

So that leaves us with decidedly DCU characters like Black Adam, Etrigan, Frankenstein, Solomon Grundy, Phantom Stranger, Uncle Sam, Ra's al Ghul (maybe), Kid Eternity (maybe). I've lost track, is Swamp Thing back in the DCU now? If so, he's immortal.

The Lords of Chaos and Lords of Order may or may not count. What about Dr. Fate?

12-14-2006, 03:10 PM
Fate is just a helmet being carried around by Ralph at the moment.

The twist is thanks to Faust, Red Tornado has upset the balance.

12-14-2006, 03:17 PM
Daniel (Sandman) is part of the DCU. He showed up when JLA fought Starro.

12-14-2006, 03:19 PM
Ra's al Ghul would be out.
Not sure about Grundy he wants the Amazo armor, so "he can stop dying".

12-14-2006, 03:21 PM
I think Kid Eternity is no longer with us, too. Something like that was covered in Teen Titans recently.

12-14-2006, 03:27 PM
Kid Eternity was active in Teen Titans 31, I have no idea after that.

Ian Ascher
12-14-2006, 06:54 PM
The Lords of Order and Chaos are no longer "alive" thanks to the fight between Fate and the Spectre during the Infinite Crisis.

I don't think any of of the Endless are considered part of the proper DCU even though we've seen the Sandman interact with the JLA twice since Neil Gaiman created his version. They are considered more abstracts than anything else.

Spectre is still around.
Phantom Stanger is too.
Both are considered Immortal.

How about Deadman or Ragman?

Uncle Sam is only immortal so long as there is a United State of America.

Did the Ressurection Man die for good?

There's a few other characters I know Im missing.

Unless Brad Metzler is re-defining Amazo, I think he's only as immortal so long as some one keeps fixing him. And at one point Ivo said he was no longer "truly immortal" so I assume that's changed now as well.

Scott Story
12-14-2006, 07:02 PM
Solomon Grundy was sure out of character.

12-14-2006, 08:45 PM
The guy in the recent Action Comics issue where he showed Superman an apocalyptic future, was also a time hopping immortal.

12-15-2006, 08:25 PM
what about the new gods? do they count?

12-15-2006, 08:26 PM
They have to walk the Earth.